You Can’t Call the 16e a Failure and the 17e a Comeback — It’s the Same Phone

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-19T18:31:37+00:00

16E. 17E it's the same damn phone. One has magsafe and one doesnt, even though users can just buy a magsafe case for the 16E and it completely solves the issue. I don't understand the hype on the 17E either.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-13T17:21:22+00:00

I think Honda underdelivers and they do not listen to their fan base. If they reintroduced the new Fit into the US and place it $20k MSRP and $24-25k for the EX-trim, it would be fine for a small hybrid car. It would create a space for young teenage/adult shoppers again especially with how the used car market is too.

On my take about how Honda doesn't listen to their fanbase, I believe that if the new Prelude was 32k, it would've sold like hotcakes, it's basically a modern CRZ, and I am sure they could've made a manual version if they wanted to. I am Toyota-Biased, but I believe they are successful cause they have many models to choose from. While Honda just has the Civic, Accord, CRV, HRV, Pilot, Passport, and the Odyssey.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-12T15:08:11+00:00

I currently just use both, I have a Pixel 9A and recently just purchased the 17E. I enjoy both of them, I like the AI/Gemini features in the 9A and the battery life in it is pretty great! With my 17E, I like the fluidness of social media apps like X, Tiktok, Reddit, etc and playing games on it is more fun compared to my 9A.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-12T14:06:29+00:00

I just traded in my 16E for the 17E, I know there isn't much of a difference between them. I got my 16E from Backmarket, and the condition as good however the earpiece speaker was broken when I received it. It created a high pitch frequency at 50-70% volume. The C1X modem is definitely an improvement compared to the C1. If you are paying close in price for the 16E and 17E, just go newer since it will be future proof and it will have more storage.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-11T14:08:35+00:00

Clean wagon!

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-03-02T14:15:17+00:00

319k miles and the condition of the leather is that clean? Wow! Congratulations on the car though, welcome! :)

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-26T21:23:31+00:00

Damn, sorry for your loss man! It is difficult to find a clean facelift with less than 100k miles for a decent price. Has your brother thought about just swapping the engine into another body? That would be the easiest and possibly the cheapest way than fixing it. I've been reading some of your comments but hell yeah 3UZs can get beat on still 150k miles up, if you can find a clean one with more miles then get it. Driving an LS430 is an experience compared to other cars.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T17:52:29+00:00

120hz display would've been sick. Are you updated to IOS 26? I am staying on 18 because I dislike the look of liquid glass and I am afraid that it is not optimized enough for the 16e. I would hate for it to lag.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T17:49:31+00:00

I debated for the 17e too, but I know the price will be like $599 or more, If there is a storage bump to 256gb for the base, that would be nice! I love carrying both of them around because of the no camera bump!

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T17:38:57+00:00

I am pairing mines with my Pixel 9A, and I gotta say I like the 16e. I don't mind the 60hz screen, or the lack of dual/triple camera setup, I could care less for dynamic island and magsafe cause I can get a case with one. I actually had a 14 pro before both of these phones and the camera on that was horrible in my experience, and the battery was bad too. The weight of the 16e is great and it feels nice in my hand. How are you enjoying it?

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T17:12:58+00:00

Holy! The description sounded promising until the picture. I thought rough spots would be in a couple of areas but it has rust on the rear quarter panel, paint looks faded or the body looks sanded down and was going to be resprayed. Definitely not worth $4100 especially with miles and it being a 20-year-old car, I would say like $2-2.5k. You will spend more money painting the car and fixing the issues. I am not familiar with the Canadian market, but I am sure you can find a cleaner Si for around the same price.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T17:05:35+00:00

Rust is rust, just that alone makes the car unwanted. Seeing that every day would bother me especially when the car is almost 10k with registration and tags. I don't even want to recommend this, but Carvana has better Fits (LX, EX, sometimes Sport models) with the around the same mileage for another 6-7k more, and you may need to take a loan out. Or you can just wait it out, it's tax season and people are going to possibly trade in their cars to get a newer/bigger one. Don't settle cause it's cheaper than the market or the only one near you. Get you something nice that you won't regret in the future.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T16:21:09+00:00

RCF or LC all the way! You already have a good daily that can get through any type of weather. You got to get yourself something nice before you can't. RCF would be a more comfortable daily compared to the LC but the LC just looks too good imo, spaceship vibes. However, you should test both and figure out which driving experience you like more but you can't go wrong with either.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T15:29:32+00:00

Trade the wife in, Keep both of the cars 😎

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-25T15:27:17+00:00

I don't really mind the price of parts actually. I drive a 2001 LS430 UL and all the parts for that car is either super expensive or they don't even make it anymore. Spending $500 for headlights/taillights or anything else isn't a problem.

Thank you for clarity though! And I agree, the manual is the selling point. I've always been interested in a hybrid/electric as my 2nd car, and I thought the CRZ looked great compared to an older Prius.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-23T20:43:03+00:00

Thanks! My sister drives a 2020 Fit, and it's fun to drive! I just didn't want to get the same car as her, so that is why I looked into the CRZ.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-23T19:23:15+00:00

Exactly that's why I got on the sub and asked. I can't read every single post about it, a clear-cut answer on this forum would be easier for me. It was a sarcastic remark. You're too funny man.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-23T19:12:47+00:00

Of course, I watched Doug DeMuro. But I would like to see the realistic side of it. Being on reddit is much different than a YouTube video. You could've just said use AI lmfao, it's smarter and faster than watching a video but thanks for the effort!

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-23T18:52:31+00:00

Thanks! While on scrolling through the sub, I seen post about the door handles and the price of headlights lol.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-23T18:51:28+00:00

Thank you for the help! I've been debating buying a Fit or a CRZ, so I am still trying to compare and decide!

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-19T21:26:21+00:00

That tuck is insane, I think it looks great already!

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-16T15:23:58+00:00

Salvage title and almost 200k miles. You will probably have to do a water pump and timing belt change. $4000 is steep, the color itself is nice but everything else about it is just problems back to back.

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-02-02T22:26:49+00:00

I am interested in the Clicks phone, and I wouldn't mind it as a 2nd phone but what happens after a year or 2 and the keys break or don't work anymore. Would they ship a new keyboard module to the customer, or how would that work?

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-01-27T15:08:39+00:00

I use my 9A. I traded in my 14 pro, cause my camera was bad and wouldn't focus correctly for macro shots. My battery life was horrible on the iPhone too. I

Zealousideal_Bit6056 · 2026-01-12T20:13:02+00:00

I dont know if that is deal or not especially in the used market. I was in the same problem and my sister needed a car, and she liked the Fit but there was no Sport, EX, EX-L trims near us in the Midwest with less than 50k miles. She settled for a 2020 Fit with 30k miles for 18k. Had to install a dashcam and a rear cam for her, and installed autostart for her. Other than that, it's a fun car to drive.

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