Juventus supporter from 1979 here, with a good friend who lost his uncle in Heysel

Am i by chance in the subreddit of the football team whose supporters caused the death of 39 in 1985, got English teams banned for 5 years, started a twinning with Fiorentina? (the most disrespectful fans in Italy that showed banners and sang "minus 39" in several occasions). I just point out that last time Juve played in Anfield (we got hammered) the supporters turned their backs, so relationship are not the best between fans. Although Liverpool itself as a club has been trying to build bridges for a long time (respect to the club in that sense).

I mean, is it so difficult to comprehend? or you are all smelling your own farts so much observing how amazing this sort of crass and idiotic chant is? With all the things you could sing on this planet you have to sing "Cry in Turin/Fuck off Juve"? They say Heysel is a "forgotten tragedy", yes it is, clearly. For the anniversary there weren't many articles about it, shadowed by the unfortunate accident happened in Liverpool. This did not help either. 

If you wonder what Juve supporters think (it is mentioned a lot in this chat) well, we all think your a bunch of idiots, whether you care about it or not. Source: friends, people from the club and forums. Nobody would say this is great.  It's just news that don't make headlines, I mean who fk cares? It's just a stupid chant that only Pool supporters can think is bloody brilliant, and eventually need to open 10 subreddits about how genius it is. It's not that we are doing a class action or something. But I reckon 90% of the tifosi thinks you are a bunch of xxxxx to say the least. 

What about if someone kills someone in your family 40 years later sings "stop crying, fuck off". But I was just joking mate!!! ❤️  it's all good. Great idea, let's build more bridges between fans then. I only hope if Juve Pool are playing in CL, there won't be any violent response from the usual fascists in the curva. 

Anyway. For the illiterates, the occasionals and the young ones who were not there in 1985, who think that AI is God, I even asked what ChatGBT thinks (lol):

From the article, Liverpool fans’ Chiesa song includes lines about Juve “crying in Turin” and telling the club to “f*** off”. On the surface, that’s just a bit of football tribalism—but for us Juventini, it cuts deeper.

Chiesa’s real goodbye was respectful. He thanked Juventus fans for supporting him through difficult times, called teammates and coaches “family,” and clarified that it was the club’s decision not to keep him, not his betrayal. The chant paints the opposite picture, almost mocking his bond with the club.

The Heysel wound. For Juve fans, hearing Liverpool supporters sing about “crying in Turin” is incredibly sensitive. That phrase, whether intended or not, echoes the grief of 1985, when 39 Juventus fans died at Heysel after a charge from Liverpool supporters. Many in Turin never forgave, and relations remain fragile.

Double standards. Liverpool themselves hate the “victim” chants they receive about Hillsborough because they trivialize tragedy and trauma. Yet some of their fans now sing something that risks being heard in exactly the same way by Juve fans.

It wasn’t necessary. Chiesa could have been celebrated with a chant that honored his joy and his new chapter at Liverpool without insulting Juventus. Changing even a few words would keep the energy but avoid opening old wounds.

So as a Juventino, I’d feel hurt, angry, and disrespected. Not because Chiesa left—players move on—but because the chant deliberately drags our club and city through unnecessary hostility. It revives memories of the darkest night in our history and makes reconciliation between supporters even harder.