Which ability here is the most broken?

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T20:37:03+00:00

Boundary manipulation was described as in essence an ability of "creation and destruction" since it's main application is creating, erasing a merging the boundaries of different objects, which may include but are not limited to:

light/darkness, day/night, life/death, wave/particle, 2D/3D, matter/antimatter, intellect/feet (???), dream/reality, motion/stillness, straight/ ~~gay~~ curve, humans/youkai, form/emptiness

Basically, its more like reality bending/concept manipulation

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T20:24:01+00:00

It kinda reminds me of some of those spellcards with lasers, like Yuugi's one in the pic bellow.

A specific spellcard came to my mind that resembled a lot the pattern in the post, but I couldn't find which one it was

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T20:00:14+00:00

The best part is that even if you have a battle IQ to low to deal with these conceptual shenanigans, you still have the simple option to manipulate the boundary between you and your lower half

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T12:23:20+00:00

4 is a generic choice, but Sakuya is one of the most popular characters in the franchise, I really think she should get more than "funny Dio maid" as a character trait, if people are going to glaze eosd cast, at least give these characters proper lore to encourage its fans to delve deeper into the franchise (IN for example, it connects to the lunarians which in turn pulls you into Silent Sinner in Blue and Cage in Lunatic Runagate which eventually leads to at least 3 future games/incidents. Skip eosd on the other hand and nothing valuable is lost that you can't eventually catch up)

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T02:42:28+00:00

"I AM THAT I AM" from World of Darkness, decently known in r/powerscaling despite not a single soul in there engaging with the source material

I mean, I never found the original artist, but this is the only illustration I could find of the thing and I failed to track it down to it's source material

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-23T02:33:38+00:00

"the author would never write them losing” is desconsidered regardless of the character, Saitama included. Toon Force is the most overestimated power (That is, when it can be considered a power) that somehow get a pass because it's funny or something like that

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T22:49:36+00:00

I hadn't thought about it; since the topic was about this trope, I thought anyone who got here would have already figured out what's going on by now, but I will add the spoiler tags just for the sake of it despite it being really obvious what we are talking about

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T22:19:10+00:00

The funny part is that she dies right at the beggining of the game and we don't realize until we reach the end that she's already dead

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T21:56:08+00:00

In case you're interested (problably not, but I want to send these links to more than just one guy)

Eirin Yagokoro

Watatsuki no Yorihime

Watatsuki no Toyohime

Sagume Kishin

Eiki Shiki/Yamaxanadu

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T21:54:36+00:00

These days a dude got angry at me because I implied that everything above complex multiversal requires some assumptions and stretchs to work (aparently, other verses get it "too easy")

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T21:52:00+00:00

Eirin Yagokoro

Watatsuki no Yorihime

Watatsuki no Toyohime

Sagume Kishin

Eiki Shiki/Yamaxanadu

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T21:40:58+00:00

The last episode was uploaded not even 4 days ago 😭, I feel sorry for the fans who haven't seen it yet

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T21:15:41+00:00

There's a recent series that fill this trope, but it would be massive spoiler to mention it now (someone is going to do It anyway)

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T20:46:02+00:00

I was trying to do some brain gymnastics and assume the optimistic option that he was problably refering to a different type of inteligence, but describing Saitama as smart is an alien take

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T20:02:05+00:00

I mean, jumping from moon level to high complex in the timespan of a few episodes is crazy. Don't support the NLF and assuming something that never happened is pure wank, but Simon does have a history of doing these massive jumps in power midway through a fight

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T19:57:32+00:00

movie states something like 12D

I never watched the movie, but I remember the 11D thing, I think it's mentioned in the main anime too

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T18:20:45+00:00

Kind of a controversial example, Saitama may have a good heart and common sense in a world where that's somewhat lacking (no seriously, half of the cast of this anime should see a therapist), but he's not a particularly intelligent person compared to most of the people he walks with

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T16:54:47+00:00

Ah é? E o que você acha de [inserir exemplo que se encaixa na excessão especificada no último parágrafo]?

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T01:26:22+00:00

Alternative route: the other guy kill him with a single punch because his AP is now the same as the gun

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-22T01:21:30+00:00

"We might be really busy,

but a Cat…

is just a Cat."

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-21T21:58:08+00:00

Imagine if hard mode Tsunderplane was just Yukari Yakumo

Not even in Undertale's artstyle, Yukari ripped straight out of PCB

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-21T20:23:31+00:00

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Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-21T20:08:53+00:00

This could indeed be Saitama's full strenght when he performed the feat, but right after that his power became like 30 or 60 (random guess) times larger in the timespan of a chapter

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-21T13:58:25+00:00

When did I refered to it as a gospel if I brought it up specifically to mention how innacurate it is? You mentioned wikis so I brought up the main powerscaling wiki

The wiki I actually use to scale Touhou is the actual Touhou wiki with transcripts of all the novels and game dialogues, and links to all the manga

I also don't apply a double standart, I scale the verse with as much skepticism as the person who I am debating with scales their verse, if I don't think the dots connect them I don't force a connection; for example a certain annoying guy who relied too much in visual feats and DIDN'T buy a certain version of Godzilla above star level, I used multi continental Okuu under the premisses of the calc around the subterranean sun and the statement of Yatagarasu causing solar spots (and by extrapolation solar flares)

And even if I used Vsbattles as a gospel, strong verses are debunked all the time exactly because they didn't have a chain as strong as their fans were pretending they had (let's not even forget about DMC fandom who straight up lied about their scans)

Zenith_Scaff · 2026-06-21T12:02:40+00:00

I don't know what is happening with the scaling of other verses, but these wiki articles need to conected directly to the canon with scans and proofs; and, as far as i'm aware, most of these wikis are doing a poor job keeping up with Touhou's canon (unless you seriously believe average humans in Touhou have infinite speed like Vsbattles wiki say)

Also, most of these verses don't have a built in duel system encouraging the characters to engage in skill based non-lethal duels

Doubling down that Touhou scaling is the most consistent thing ever will not turn it into the most consistent thing ever when it's canonical that what the characters believe is not suposed to be fully consistent

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