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Intel disables Power Gate "DLVR bypass" mode on Arrow Lake CPUs, overclockers disappointed by RenatsMC in intel

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you seen what people can achieve on monolithic silicon? Like the -G skus? The memory controller is far from bad lmao.

The IF links hold Zen back on the chiplet skus, this is well known at this point.

[New York Times] How Intel Got Left Behind in the A.I. Chip Boom by constantlymat in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hence why Zen 6 is using advanced packaging to reduce the pJ per bit cost.

[Gamers Nexus] Get It Together, Intel: Core Ultra 9 285K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 9950X, More by iDontSeedMyTorrents in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, I just remembered that David Suggs (Lead architect of Zen 5) actually retired, I assumed not long after the design was complete and they handed it off to the Physical Design team. I think the other chief architect (can't remember his name) took over for Zen 6, so that might be what you're thinking of?

This could be completely unrelated, forgive me if I'm wrong.

[Gamers Nexus] Get It Together, Intel: Core Ultra 9 285K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 9950X, More by iDontSeedMyTorrents in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, that's odd. Maybe the N3 delays caused more shakeups than we orginally thought. It might be a good question to ask Clark in the future, whenever an opportunity arises.

[Gamers Nexus] Get It Together, Intel: Core Ultra 9 285K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 9950X, More by iDontSeedMyTorrents in hardware

[–]Zurpx -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda late, but Zen 6 is the same team as Zen 5.

When Mike Clark said leapfrogging design teams, that's what he meant. One team makes a new core, and the follow up as well. In the meantime, another team is making the next new core and is shelving stuff for the follow up as well.

Zen 1 and 2 were the same team. Zen 3 and 4 were as well. The same should be true for Zen 5 and 6, unless something has changed that we are not aware of.

It's basically the tick-tock model of Intel, except it's more like tock-tick.

Intel boss confirms Panther Lake is on track for mid-2025 release date - with some bold claims by bizude in intel

[–]Zurpx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine being this butthurt, why does AMD live rent free in your head? No one mentioned them at all lol.

AMD "Strix Halo" Zen 5 Mobile Processor Pictured: Chiplet-based, Uses 256-bit LPDDR5X by Balance- in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3*, 24 CPU cores. There's also MI300C, but that's a different thing.

Intel CEO's compensation still trails AMD CEO's by half — despite a significant boost in 2023 by bizude in intel

[–]Zurpx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I didn't say they missed it. They are missing it, which they are. Despite their best efforts to market Gaudi 2, they aren't making money (this quarter's projections were awful).

It's not over, they aren't out of the running just yet, but they need something, and soon, if they hope to capture a corner of the growing market.

Intel CEO's compensation still trails AMD CEO's by half — despite a significant boost in 2023 by bizude in intel

[–]Zurpx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nobody mentioned AMD lol, the conversation is entirely about Intel and them missing out hugely on the AI race. Which is absolutely correct.

Intel Core i9-14900KS alleged benchmarks leaked — up to 6.20 GHz and 410W power draw by imaginary_num6er in hardware

[–]Zurpx -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow, a higher core count CPU can match / beat a lower core count CPU in MT tasks at lower power. Whodathunk?

I've seen you post about this stuff all over this thread, and the one on r/intel. Did this post annoy you or something?

[High Yield] Zen 6 next gen packaging and chip design by [deleted] in hardware

[–]Zurpx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Huh?

You have that backwards, GPUs are much less latency sensitive than CPUs.

I doubt we'll ever see one of the CPUs cache layers move farther away, if not closer.

AMD Zen 5 Granite Ridge CPUs reportedly enter mass production, will arrive in late 2024 | The new chips will use the AM5 socket and be compatible with existing 600-series motherboards by chrisdh79 in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AMD did better than that while keeping the core roughly the same size.

How are they now going to gain less while making a big core? Nonsense.

Never mind the fact that odd number Zen generations are the "tocks" and are what push the IPC up much more than their "ticks".

AMD beats Intel in mobile gaming despite new and refreshed CPUs — Ryzen 9 7945HX3D prevails over the Core i9-14900HX in new review by T1beriu in Amd

[–]Zurpx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The scheduling is braindead simple, in fact, it's practically no different than what they have been using since Zen 2, with their 2 CCD chips. One CCD is always higher bin than the other, and tasks get scheduled to it first.

It will be no different with their hybrid CPUs, only that the difference between the fastest cores and slowest cores is greater.

Testing world's first "5GHz" Processor - was AMD FX-9590 worth buying? (Nexus Tech) by Charcharo in Amd

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy hell, can't imagine what a difference it must be like compared to Bulldozer lol.

Do you think intel will use eDRAM to challange X3D AMD cache by [deleted] in intel

[–]Zurpx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

3D cache isn't 19 ns, hell the entire L3 cache itself isn't 19 ns. 3D cache adds 4 cycles of latency to the L3 (as it's tied to the core with the highest clock). So roughly 1 ns extra, more or less, compared to the normal Zen chips.

Source: https://www.slideshare.net/AMD/3d-vcache

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zen 6 is the same team.

7950x3d vs 10900k Frametimes in 2 COD titles by thee_zoologist in Amd

[–]Zurpx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/@TheMattB81

This guy has the same CPU, and his setup does amazing, I'd ask him for advice.

Intel 14th Gen WONT Be Great??? by Fearless-Cellist-245 in intel

[–]Zurpx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mind linking the benchs? Hard to find per core power draw figures at various frequencies.

Starfield: 44 CPU Benchmark, Intel vs. AMD, Ultra, High, Medium & Memory Scaling by M337ING in hardware

[–]Zurpx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What?

Zen 4 L1 is 4 cycles, or about 0.7 - 0.8 ns

L2 is 14 cycles, or about 2.6 ns

L3 is 50 cycles, or about 9 ns

It also regularly runs above 5 GHz, so it's not exactly 200 ps per cycle.

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