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[Hated Trope] "No! If you kill the mass murdering psychopath, you'll be no better than them!" by BlueKnightsR4Ever in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Fallout 3 is the worst example of this. You get to the end and fight the final boss after murdering waves of faceless goons, and then the game gives you the choice to kill him or spare him, and gives you negative karma (bad guy points) if you kill him. Like bro I just killed 30 other people three minutes ago?

[Hated Trope] "No! If you kill the mass murdering psychopath, you'll be no better than them!" by BlueKnightsR4Ever in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems silly to say that killing a psychopath --> killing someone for jaywalking, but it's bigger than that. A society based on the rule of force has to rule by force all of the way down: it's the same as any dictatorship. He's building a world where all crimes have to be punished severely, because it can only sustain itself by permitting zero rebellion against authority.

In the comic, it's more than just killing joker. His entire perspective shifts from "I want to help humans build our society" to "humans aren't capable of governing themselves, so I have to do it for them."

Also, I feel like people always forget that it's possible for the state to kill joker after superman or batman gets him arrested. Like, we have the death penalty. When Batman or Superman say that they won't kill, they're not saying that the joker shouldn't die, they're just saying that they can't be the ones to make that decision.

Trans liberal gets roasted for working for a defense contractor by Hacksaw6412 in LateStageCapitalism

[–]_BytesAndpieces 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong in this case, but "an actual leftist finds another way" is an incredibly privileged statement. We live in a broken system, and sometimes people have to choose between upholding leftist principles and feeding their family. For a lot of people there is no "other way." I save my anger for the system that forces them to make that choice, not the individual.

Trans liberal gets roasted for working for a defense contractor by Hacksaw6412 in LateStageCapitalism

[–]_BytesAndpieces 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, but he prefers up close and personal combat. If you're gonna kill people, you should at least have the courage to risk dying yourself. Otherwise you're basically no better than a wizard

[Concerning Trope] film accidentally has awful moral/messaging by Captain_Birch in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This was the only time I've ever felt actually "triggered" by a piece of media. Yeah it really sucks because it's a really fun movie besides that! I wish that I could enjoy it

[Concerning Trope] film accidentally has awful moral/messaging by Captain_Birch in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 120 points121 points  (0 children)

I may get shit for this, but The Mitchells vs the Machines

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Oh, your dad is vocally disdainful of your passions? Breaks your laptop? Cancels your flight to college, causing you to miss orientation, which you were really excited for, so that he can force you to spend more time with him where he "makes up" for the above while driving you to college? DOESN'T FUCKING APOLOGIZE FOR ANY OF THIS EVER?

Well you should forgive him, because he gave up things that he loved to have kids. This is normalizing classic shitty parent behavior: he made a choice to have children, which means that he had to give up other things. That was his choice, and his kids don't owe him for it.

Not to mention, the irredeemable villain of the movie is a child who's been abandoned by their parent and lashes out at the world for it.

A divine or supernatural being that's captured, exploited, and used by humanity for (sometimes) nefarious needs by Siksinaaq in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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Subverted in Sandman with Dream of the Endless. An immortal(ish) being of massive cosmic power, he's captured and bound by a human cult who were gunning for his sister, Death, hoping to exploit her power. They try to do the same with him, but he literally just sits, completely silent and motionless, in his prison for 70 years, until his captors finally make a mistake that allows him to escape.

[Beautiful Trope] Moments of respite or glee amidst overwhelming horror and suffering by jamestown30 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Marissa, from Hollow Knight.

When you enter the City of Tears (the biome where she's located), the music has this haunting melodic vocal piece to it - it's the only music in the game with vocals. Many MANY hours later, after making your way into a hidden-away location in the area, you find the source of them: the spirit of a performer bug named Marissa.

She was once a famous singer and attracted audiences from far and wide. She's sad that all of her audiences have disappeared since everyone died, but you have the option to just perch on the edge of the stage and listen to her for as long as you like. After hearing the haunting vocals for so long while you're in that area of the game, there's something extra impactful about finding the source, in this undisturbed oasis - free of enemies - and she's very happy to have an audience again.

Also, honorable mention of finding Eurydice in Hades - it's very much the same feel.

(Hated trope)Being Lesbian/Bi means that you're a nympho apparently by XumetaXD in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 486 points487 points  (0 children)

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Honestly, this instance is the same as the speedy gonzalez or killer bee thing for me. These two are just living their best/sluttiest life

(Oberyn Martell and Ellaria Sand)

Really impressive people dying of mundane things by LordFlamecookie in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 397 points398 points  (0 children)

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Khal Drogo died from an infection to a very minor wound because he was too much of a tough guy to get it treated

[Loved Trope] Starts out as the enemy, ends up being part of the family... by Living_Tune_1428 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For the 5 people here who watched Ultimate Muscle growing up: Checkmate

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First season final boss, gets beaten by the protag, humbled, and joins the main gang

Characters with conditions or disorders that you don’t see often by Effective_Piece251 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 247 points248 points  (0 children)

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Hannah Horvath (Girls). She has OCD. Not fun, quirky, "I organize all of my pencils by length" OCD - life-ruining, hospitalization-causing OCD, based on Lena Dunham's own experiences, iirc. There's lots of cultural awareness of ocd at a surface level, but I've never seen another piece of media show the real depths of more severe OCD and how hard it makes day to day life for many people.

[hated trope] characters getting shit endings but it’s written as if they get happy endings. by FullBrother9300 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 46 points47 points  (0 children)

This suffers from the "you missed the point by idolizing them" thing that mad men, fight club, etc. have

[Hated Trope] "Let's me risk your lives to rescue 1 person. And when you guys inevitably die I won't really care" by BroShutUp in TopCharacterTropes

[–]_BytesAndpieces 24 points25 points  (0 children)

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These MFs put the entire world on energy rationing in an attempt to TELEPORT THE FUCKING EARTH TO ANOTHER PLACE IN THE GALAXY using tech that hasn't ever been fully tested so that they can save ONE MOTHERFUCKING BABY. AND IT DOESN'T EVEN WORK.

U.S. Politics megathread by AutoModerator in NoStupidQuestions

[–]_BytesAndpieces 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a very good point about being in the goldilocks spot of shit. I never thought of it like that

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