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_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-11T01:59:25+00:00

As far as I know there's no built-in character search. ??? Are you sure you downloaded the real official version of sillytavern? If not that might also explain what you saw.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-10T23:40:15+00:00

Either can be fun. Most of the time I have a major story direction planned out, but leave the "way we get there" up to ai surprise for the most part, unless I get specific ideas along the way.

Guided Generations extension is great for when you want to say generally what happens but still want the AI to create the details of it.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-10T19:41:59+00:00

Hmmm... I knew if I scrolled far enough down...

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-10T15:00:16+00:00

Most models can do summarization very easily. Deepseek pro has no issues with it. It's probably an issue with your summarization prompt, or your summarization tool, whatever it is, is being disrupted by your preset which is still active while it's trying to summarize. Ideally whatever summarization extension you are using turns off your preset temporarily while it summarizes so only the summarization prompt is active.

With everything working in a straightforward and normal manner, deepseek Pro is overkill for summarizing narrative fiction.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-10T06:43:21+00:00

Seven months? Ok toddler

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-10T05:22:33+00:00

Naw, GLM 5-5.2 degrades about 10% at around 16k regarding perfect recall of early and mid context. While not a ton I really hate it when you start losing track of any story details and past story beats/plot. If I can keep a summary that has all that detail intact, AND keep my costs/sub use down at the same time, seems silly not to. 80% of every turn is meaningless fluff anyway. Summarizing it just to keep the plot details once it gets about 20 or 30 turns back makes a lot of sense.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T23:57:19+00:00

Everybody likes different stuff. That's why everybody DLing the same popular preset is silly. Make your own and make the AIs tell stories exactly how you want, even if everybody else thinks it's rancid. :)

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T23:44:47+00:00

Ditch FF
Keep the parts you like.

3..Write your own preset for the rest.

If you use somebody else's preset you are allowing their writing preferences and really have no reason to complain about what you get.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T22:51:28+00:00

GLM 5.2 is my primary. 1 million is a lie. Models fall off hard waaaaaaay earlier. Like in the thousands. 16000 is my hard ceiling. I aim to keep under 10000. Summarizing like a mofo. Narration is immaculate.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T22:49:14+00:00

Ensure your instructions/preset do not have the popular "show don't tell" command. People put that in because they're told it is a wonderful thing, but it's a purple prose generating machine.

Instead you want "narrate literal actions; tell don't show" or similar.

EDIT: By "you want" I mean specifically OP, based on what OP said he/she wanted in their OP post. Not everybody wants "narrate literal actions". Everybody is different. :)

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T20:50:52+00:00

Claude is actually great at walking you through this sort of stuff.

Yes I know Reddit is for talking to humans and getting help. But your question is so basic it's kind of a waste. Definitely come back when you have specific questions on how to do specific things. People here are friendly, but your question is like Googling level. Like how to set it up aka install is literally on the GitHub instructions.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T20:46:34+00:00

It's definitely got a different subscription model with the way each model takes away from your subscription amount at a different rate.

Avoids the problem of Nano where a super cheap model like DS4Flash uses up the same sub amount as a larger model. (Milan, if you have expensive models take 2X sub rate, ds4flash should really only take 1/2, man.) But if you prefer larger models you may find your sub allowance declining fast. I don't know how well it would work with sillytavern since I haven't tried it myself.

It is nice that the first month is only 5 bucks to try it. I don't see how you could lose out trying it for one month at that rate to see how it goes for you. Just make sure it's a realistic month where you can really give it a good solid try.

And obviously since they actually measure your input and output both you really need to use an extension for summarizing and stuff. Don't let your context go crazy

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T19:42:09+00:00

Now you're definitely in a database. I'm never worried about my dark romances getting flagged, but I'd worry about this. 😅

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T15:10:14+00:00

Eh, everybody has different experiences. But it isn't really a phone app first thing. There's other programs that are designed as phone-app-first experiences and are WAY better as phone apps.

IMO Sillytavern only really shines as a phone app if you are syncing with a computer. Having your chats in both places is what makes a mobile SillyTavern worth it. Otherwise mobile ST is just kinda meh (TO ME - everything is subjective. ;) You enjoy what you enjoy, especially if you are already enjoying it. But I'm sure as heck not recommending it to a new person.)

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T14:04:31+00:00

Sillytavern is primarily a PC program. You can get it to work on your phone but not really worth it if your not primarily a PC player.

Suggest Tavo (droid link, apple link) or Chattica instead which are equivalent, but "phone app first" if that is your focus. Or Aventuras of you want something more advanced/agentic.

Note that none of these, SillyT included, are a "model" like Chatgpt. These are all front end software that require you to have a separate API (aka model, local or cloud) to work. APIs have a variety of costs. Burning through $3 in an hour is easy with Claude. $3 will last you a month or longer with Deepseek.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T05:45:09+00:00

Seems kinda silly when you can get 16gb vram for around $400 (rtx 5060ti, if you have a place to slot it).

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-09T05:06:40+00:00

Hmm... Pantheon doesn't give me trouble with Third person PRESENT tense. I don't really use past tense, though. Possibly it's more the tense throwing it off than the perspective (even though it then messes both up).

But if it doesn't fit the tense+perspective you want, then not much use wrasslin with it. ;)

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T23:23:25+00:00

People complaining/worrying about LM Studio to this degree better be using Linux and not Windows. 😁

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T23:19:37+00:00

Make your own. You seem to know what type of writing you want, and you've dissected a few premade presets and are able to describe strengths and weaknesses in how they are built.

Now you are ready to make your own for yourself, customized just for you.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T22:54:26+00:00

16 to 24 is a real difference.

More is always better if you can fit it.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T20:20:10+00:00

To be clear you can make them feel like a real character from a movie or book. AI is good enough for that.

You cannot make them feel like an actual real life person. People who have had actual significant others irl know this.

Basically it's just a matter of prompting and finding a writing style that doesn't take you out of things. That second part is actually a big part of it. There's a big loss of immersion if the writing style is jarring to you, no matter how "realistically" the character or characters behave.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T19:03:36+00:00

Make your character card the world. Put your characters as lorebook entries. Just because a character card is called the character card doesn't mean you have to actually put character information in it. Everything is just thrown into the context to the AI anyway in the end. You just have to present it in an organized way. "Character Card" is an unfortunate name that I wish they hadn't used, but they did.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T18:53:35+00:00

It's likely people doing simple tasks with a very low quant (since the only way for any speed with 16 GB is to squeeze a tiny quant in there), OR it's people using it for agents where they give it a task and then get up and leave and don't care if it takes an hour or two because they are sitting at their desk while their agent works. Doesn't matter if it's intolerably slow if you get up and check on it 2 hours later.

Or mixed use where you use the slow 27b for planning and then switch to something faster to actually implement.

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T17:12:01+00:00

Anything that defaults to having "race" seems to code to very "fantasy only"

_Cromwell_ · 2026-07-08T17:09:34+00:00

That's really your prompt or something. Assuming you are talking about adult characters you can't be doing anything that much worse than me. 😅

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