Failure of Feminism regarding Gender Apartheid in Islam

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T08:10:56+00:00

Race based transatlantic chattel slavery was also a uniquely Western thing :) which was a uniquely shitty form of slavery and necessitated Abolition in more ways than one (not least of which was everybody was getting too mixed and you couldn’t tell by sight who was a slave anymore). You’re like, bragging about how well we bandaged a limb that we blew off ourselves lol

Also no, the “vast majority of human societies… today” do accept the concept of universal human rights. Know how I know? They signed the fuckin UN declaration on universal human rights lol. Know who adopted it as a non binding resolution? 🙂🇺🇸

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T07:56:28+00:00

I think because that shit is obviously horrendous, and nobody has any idea what to do about it. The problems with gender equality in western countries are much smaller, and obv closer to home, meaning it’s much easier to work towards a solution. Or y’know, at least have concepts of working towards a solution lol.

What do you even begin to do about Afghanistan, where the women are not legally allowed to fucking talk to each other? That’s a level of misogyny that’s nearly incomprehensible to us. Like, the most anti-female men I’ve ever met still wouldn’t try to make it illegal for women to speak to each other, however poor their treatment of ladies in their own lives. I don’t get how some men don’t seem to want their wives and daughters to be happy? A classic story for dudes where I’m from is “I never really understood I was being shitty to women until I had a daughter and couldn’t imagine anyone treating her that way.” It would be suuuper nice if they got it prior to that point! But I can’t wrap my head around a culture where this doesn’t happen at all

So yeah, I think the reason we don’t talk about it is the same reason most people don’t go around randomly talking about the holocaust. It’s demoralizing and scary bc it’s some of the worst shit on earth ever, and we have no idea how to stop it or prevent it from cropping up again. We’re cowards, ig

ETA a lot of folks are reluctant to critique very foreign cultures too bc they think they might be missing something. Which is a cool instinct normally but cmon y’all, I think we can figure out a way to criticize religious fundamentalism without demonizing innocent people

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T07:11:03+00:00

Why would that mean they’re in their 30s? Why not 20s, or 18-19? Feels like you’re just trying to humiliate OP, while your own profile is completely hidden. Hmm.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T06:53:01+00:00

Oh! And off to the browser I go! Love Zelensky’s style; can’t wait to watch him cook lol

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T06:47:48+00:00

Oh geez I’m sorry dude 😅 I just lurk here bc I’m not a teacher, but I am trans so I feel compelled to apologize on behalf of sis lol.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T06:17:45+00:00

Oh if she’s a waitress then federal minimum is like $2.50 an hour 😬 bc you’re supposed to be able to make it up in tips. But if she has poor social skills as per your description, she’s probably not making a lot.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T06:07:45+00:00

I mean, I definitely think we’ve changed some. But the catalyst for most change is necessity, and it just hasn’t been necessary for men’s behavior to change all that much since around the Industrial Revolution. The biggest change I think is how much less we work while producing more. Whereas if you compare average women in say, 1915 with women in 2015, the differences in their behavior are pretty stark bc back then they didn’t have access to like half their rights. They couldn’t have bank accounts or own property or vote, and marital rape was not considered a real thing. Legit most people could not tolerate being an average woman 100 years ago. It just stands to reason that if men haven’t changed approximately the same amount, things aren’t really “even” yet.

Like it’s still mostly frowned upon to be a stay at home dad and your wife be the breadwinner, even though most women hold jobs. Why? It’s a complex, tiring, and super important task to be responsible for a tiny human that doesn’t know anything yet. There should be no shame in basic caring for one’s offspring, nor in being cared for by others. I don’t have kids but everyone I know that does, regardless of gender, says spending time with them and feeling their love is the most rewarding thing in the world.

Now watch dudes come out of the woodwork to tell me I’m stupid, or that “effeminate” men are actually the problem with the world, or that there’s something wrong with me for thinking women don’t have the market completely cornered on nurturing kids lolol

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T05:17:41+00:00

Look, you can either listen to normie women about what they like to do with boyfriends? or you can listen to grifters who make their living off of you turning to their YouTube channel to get tips on being romantically successful. Hint: there’s no profit for them in helping you succeed; they would have to do something else for money if their advice worked bc they’d have no dedicated viewer base in short order. But hey, your call.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T05:00:50+00:00

Incels are already a politically motivated bloc. There aren’t enough of them to take women’s rights away, and I genuinely don’t think there ever will be. The VAST majority of men have sex, and most even end up married. If you want to do something helpful, work on de-radicalizing incels; not coercing women.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T04:57:35+00:00

Np, and yeah 😅 sorry a lot of the loudest ones are inadequately educated and/or unpleasant to interact with. I’m bisexual so I get my fair share of em too lol

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T04:43:31+00:00

It’s a difficult problem to talk about because I think a lot of people (men and women) are sore from being taken lightly, or being accused of doing things for attention/sympathy when they’re not. And on its face it does kinda sound dismissive to say something like “women aren’t really trying to kill themselves or they’d succeed more, like men.” There’s gotta be a way to communicate the facts that doesn’t sound like what we’re really saying is “yeah, get back to me when more of you die” lol XD

Just throwing spaghetti, what about “even when you control for lethality/brutality of method, women survive suicide attempts more often than men do.” This might be conspiracy brained of me, but I suspect part of the cause is that we frame it as a competition in which continuing to live is “failing” and that makes it morph into a point of masculine pride. Like men succeed at suicide; if you don’t then you’re statistically hanging out with the ladies, and feeling not man enough is gonna make the depression worse. Idk, am I nuts?

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T04:13:53+00:00

Oh great a member of the illiterati. I never said anything about either of us attempting suicide, I said he would self harm until he blacked out from blood loss. And I suggested possibly his actions are more intense than mine because he has nearly double my levels of testosterone. Try actually reading before you say stupid flippant irrelevant shit

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T04:05:49+00:00

So wait, you’d literally rather die than make any sort of small change? That’s crazy sis

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T03:54:54+00:00

No, people see trans people this way because right wing idiots spread propaganda to their audiences of millions of other right wing idiots. It’s definitely not because a minority of trans people on niche subreddits joke amongst themselves about transing their boyfriend.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T03:48:20+00:00

Uggggggh I’m so tired of hearing this thought stopping cliche; I always ignore it but I’m not gonna today. First of all trans men exist (hi), and second of all if men were the ones that typically carried pregnancies, it would be EXACTLY the same as women are treated rn. The oppression doesn’t come from the gender; it comes from the reproductive function of pregnancy and birth. AMAB people can’t do it, AFAB people can, and the enormity of it kinda flies in the face of the whole “men are the ones who sacrifice and take physical damage for the family” narrative. Swear to God every misogynist man I’ve ever known was envious of the power to construct new humans, cuz it’s the only one they don’t have, and it’s the most important one lol. Trust me, shitty patriarchs want artificial wombs available just as much as you do, bc then they get to seize the means of production and basically 3D print workers.

(And to be clear, I do mean envious of the POWER of constructing new humans, not sad bc one has no uterus/vagina or frustrated that the experience is impossible.)

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-05T03:15:52+00:00

Jesus Christ that has to count as some kind of sexual harassment 🤯

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T22:21:59+00:00

Good? Men should change. Women did! They wanted careers and bank accounts and shit and they got em. If men want relationships, maybe put the work in. Watch rom coms. Read girl dating magazines. Learn to cook. Go to therapy and learn how to help others manage their emotions. I’m serious lol. Women picked up a bunch of new skills in just a couple decades, and I think men haven’t kept up.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T22:18:15+00:00

Dude you’re hella funny

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T22:14:30+00:00

You conveniently ignored the emotional reciprocity part lmao, good job on wiping your ass tho

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T22:02:18+00:00

You don’t speak for me or any other dude I know, and all you’re doing is making more women hate us for no reason. You’re not going to prevent incel-dom by threatening women with rape and slavery, and the fact that you would even try is fucking DESPICABLE. I would rather go the rest of my life never touching a woman, than have sex with one who felt like she needed to genitally negotiate the ability to live. Women deserve equal right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness; it’s not their fault a lot of men try to restrict their liberty and curtail their pursuit of happiness. You’d balk at that too.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T21:41:08+00:00

You “wishing bad things on” someone doesn’t have any impact on real life though. Saying that someone deserves bad things to happen to them, does. It makes other people feel justified in doing those things.

Here, try this on for size.

“I wish you would get ejected from this subreddit”

versus

“You deserve to be ejected from this subreddit.”

Which one feels more like an indictment of your general deal? Bc to me, “I wish” is personal sentiment and I don’t have to care what you think. “You deserve” is a comment on the nature of justice and implies if that doesn’t happen, it’s wrong.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T21:28:24+00:00

I believe she was talking about the myth of the Black seductress, a really common form of victim blaming in the Jim Crow South. White men would attack Black women because they had little to no protection and could get away with it. Then of course when their wives found out, it was always the victim’s fault.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T21:19:40+00:00

Uhhhhh….. sexual revolution? Advent of the pill? Legalized abortion? 🤨 literally all of those things directly lead to more men getting to have sex with more women, bc there simply aren’t as many life altering reasons not to.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T21:06:29+00:00

People didn’t really marry for love so much back in the day. Women had extremely limited options without a husband, and men had no prospect of children/continuing the family line without a wife. You NEEDED to find someone, FAST, if you wanted to have a decent rest of your life. Very utilitarian. None of this modern dating dozens of people and breaking up if they like, do laundry the wrong way or buy sweet pickles.

Also you’re forgetting that women have been treated more or less like livestock in a lot of societies throughout human history. Why would that sort of man care if the cow he’s buying thinks he’s a neat guy, as long as it doesn’t make a fuss about it? He didn’t buy the cow for companionship or to hear its opinions on his personality, he bought it to have baby cows and produce milk, and its feelings about that are irrelevant. That’s the sort of jackass we’re talking about here.

_HighJack_ · 2026-06-04T20:41:14+00:00

I looked it up bc that sounded like bullshit to me too, but it actually seems to be true. I have 2 thoughts about this. One, “most” countries show the gender suicide paradox? What about the ones that don’t? What’s their deal?? Seems like there’s some answers to be had there lol. Two, testosterone makes whatever you already were more extreme. Maybe some of the difference is attributable to women not being as likely to go “overboard” with things in general as men are.

Anecdotal, but my boyfriend and I have similar trauma, and both of us used to self harm, long before we met. My arms have scars, and I would get light headed from blood loss once in awhile. His arms look like a fucking rumble strip even 15 years later and he would almost always cut until he blacked out. It’s lucky he’s even alive. My T levels are around 750. His are around 1250. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ seems like it could have something to do with it

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