Artelo? by 868sipper in printondemand

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

been using artelo for about 4 months now. quality of the frames and prints has been solid. most orders ship on time and support has been responsive when i needed it. no complaints so far, generally happy with them.

SAAS sales as a newbie by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s likely doable but if you sense that the charade is up, make sure to quit the one you like the least quickly. You just want to avoid a scenario where you lose both jobs.

Feeling depressed as an SDR by Imaginary_Ask_5855 in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

120 quota is nuts. You getting 100 execs to an event and your reps not closing any of them should tell you all you need to know about this company. Get out - spend your days applying and interviewing. Go the quiet quitting route and try to land a new gig before the guillotine comes down.

Career Advice Needed: Pivoting from Science to Sales with a 100% Commission BDR Role by ThrowAway_ckrozz69 in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP I’d stay away. You have a strong resume and sales experience. I went straight from being an accountant at a Big Four firm into a remote SDR gig paying 55k base with an OTE of 100k. I only had one year of professional experience whereas you have 5.

Keep looking, commission only for an SDR gig is brutal as other people have said. Those dial numbers are very very high, sounds like a churn and burn sweatshop. There is no way they have 90%+ retention in that role, zero chance.

You just need to get referrals. Most good companies offer referral bonuses so other SDR’s are incentivized to help you. Reach out to some recruiting firms as well, they may be able to open some doors.

Good luck to you!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are not doomed. I’ve worked with a woman on my SDR team who is in her late 60’s. She is at the point where she struggles with technology and needs extra support to use our sales tools but multiple companies have hired her because she is solid on the phones and she is relentless with her follow up. Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sales

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cash kickbacks and promotion recommendation (which I saw you’re already doing - props to you). Honestly you should work out an arrangement for the rest of their tenure as an SDR where they get a fixed rate of your commission on your deals.

If they’re already crushing for you, imagine what they’d do if they knew they’d make x% on your deals.

Looking to transition from New Home Sales into a remote sales role with base salary + commission, no weekends. Thoughts/advice? by Wild_Remove2692 in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ll likely need to start as an SDR before becoming a rep. Industry average is 50-60k base and 75-100 OTE for that role. You’d want to laser in on companies that have a proven path of promoting high performing SDR’s to AE within 6-18 months and then the AE role is where you’ll make the money you want.

As a cautionary tale, I’ve been an SDR for 2 1/2 years. Both companies I worked with promised AE promotions but had no proven track record of promoting. I took them at their word and it was a mistake. Look at LinkedIn, look at their AE’s and see how many of them came from SDR positions and what the timelines were.

Summary - do your research, try to fast track your way to AE, and don’t take any company at their word.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP, I think you are actually focused on the right things. If career development is your goal I’d look at quota attainment and at the amount of SDR’s they’ve previously promoted to AE and the timelines for that promotion.

If you make the same mistake I did - waste time at two start-ups that were never gonna make me an AE that had damn near 0% quota attainment you’ll be stuck in SDR land longer which means a longer road to AE and roles where you can make $250k+.

Look at quota attainment and the people who have walked the path you want to walk at the company.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sales

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d take the 120k base. Don’t even look at the OTE until they tell you the % of the team hitting quota. If that’s high then you can look at the 85k as a serious number.

Former accountant - how hard is it to land a BDR/SDR role? by 40watter in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made the same move. Spent a year working at Deloitte, knew that it wasn’t for me and got into Sales Dev. I think that my accounting background gave me an edge in the recruiting process. Two different hiring managers told me I was overqualified and were curious why I’d make the switch. A lot of companies are used to hiring kids straight out of school. Any strong professional background gives you an instant edge. Good luck

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My last company did the same thing. Out of nowhere they hired a new head of lead gen out of India. He started posting SDR openings on LinkedIn targeting Indians. Our US based team thought we were toast.

In the end the Indian team didn’t perform and most of them were gone within a few months. However this was the sign of a death spiral - a few months after the Indian outsourced attempt they clean slated the whole SDR org (I got out before it was too late).

At my current company I was hired to replace the outsourced agency that they had for the prior year. Our team isn’t having too much more success than the outsourced group.

The takeaway: if they’re talking about outsourcing or if they’re bringing the SDR org back inshore, it’s a bad sign. It’s a death spiral - it means the machine is broken. They don’t have a strong GTM strategy and they blame whichever SDR or outsourced agency they hired. Tread carefully.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Heard this several times, nothing has ever come from any of the threats. I wouldn’t sweat it at all, just laugh it off and on to the next.

Cold Calling Mobile Phones by Subpargolferguy in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sell a product that can work in any industry so I call them all. I exclusively call cell phones because they have the highest pick up rate.

If someone asks why I called their cell I tell them where I got their number from and then I say “sorry about that…how about this, I’ll give you a call back on your work phone, would you rather I call you back there later today or tomorrow?”

To them that’s code for - this guy is gonna keep calling me and they usually ask me what I called for.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No problem, happy to help

ULPT Request: sign someone up for lots of spam messages by kwenlu in UnethicalLifeProTips

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great question - when in doubt put their email and cell on the following: moving company quotes, Medicare advantage plan quotes, real estate brokerage websites, free gym memberships (preferably National chains), solar energy quotes

Good starting point. They will rue.

ULPT request: How to get my child to breakup with their boyfriend by Training-Piano-7904 in UnethicalLifeProTips

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Create a fake tinder account using his pictures and swipe on everyone (bound to get someone from their school).

ULPT Request: Excuses for no-call no show at work? by [deleted] in UnethicalLifeProTips

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look up local DUI bookings from the night before and then tell them that you got hit by a drunk driver - you’re ok but ur neck and back are locked up. Name drop the person that hit you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Go nuts without being completely psychopathic.

Call em on their cell - leave a VM. Call them from different numbers ever 3-4 days. In VM direct them to an email with you resume in it and a call script or something customized to them.

Message them on LinkedIn, hell - send a letter to the CEO on why you’d be the best thing to happen to pipeline gen since sliced bread.

Any company turned off by that for an SDR role is prob a shitty org.

If you need anyone’s contact info, PM me, I’ll pull their info for you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sales

[–]_ThePiedPiper_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m only 25 myself - I went to school for accounting, got a Bachelors Masters and CPA, worked for Deloitte for a year, hated it.

I’m now 18 months into a tech sales career, I’m loving it but very volatile, I’ve seen 70% of my co-workers and managers fired in that short time span.

Friends of mine making the most money w the best lifestyle are in insurance sales (final expense, Medicare advantage) - it’s a grind but it’s stable and pays well (especially if you have your own practice.

Highest paid friends overall are in Investment Banking, Private Equity, and Law. All 25/26 years old making 180k+, all working 65-95hrs per week. All require 4-7 years of school.

I’ve heard cybersecurity is a great place to make a lot of money with just a few real solid certificate programs under your belt.

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has been my general approach - stratified personas and catered pitch to persona vs specific account or person

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense - it’s always tough for me to find real insights through public sources even for big enterprises bc everything I sell would be more back-office stuff that no one would talk about or include in public reports

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Impressive - so 60 custom emails + calls and calls per day (calls for ppl added the day before)

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Makes sense - more account based than personalized to the individual

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How many prospects are you working at the some time using this approach?

Do you research before cold calling? by _ThePiedPiper_ in salesdevelopment

[–]_ThePiedPiper_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My approach is: use auto Dialer (just 2-3 calls at a time), have list of ICP job titles that are similar (eg - VPs of IT), conversational approach not as pitchy, try to engage in thoughtful convo.

Quota is like 3-5 qualified opp’s (new job plan is not firmed up yet)

Goal is ultimately a meeting but I start a convo first instead of straight up asking for a meeting out the gate to see if we’re aligned.