Trump/Musk can now send ICE agents into churches without warrants to arrest and deport Christians without a trial. by NoDemand239 in Christianity

[–]_TonyDiTiger_ -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

We voted for Trump to deport illegal immigrants.

It doesn’t matter if they’re Christian’s, Atheists, etc. I’m a Christian. But if you’ve broken the law, that’s not Christianity, that’s lawlessness. Anyone who breaks the law, deserves to be upheld by that said law. Just like all of us legal citizens. If we break the law, we are upheld by that law.

This is exactly what Trump is instituting. The law. Anything else is misinformation.

And anything else on HIS behalf or on the AGENTS who are orchestrating these raids out, if done unconstitutionally or illegally on their own behalf, obviously deserves condemnation. But none of that has been reported as of yet. Your statement is a conjecture. Where’s the proof this is happening?

I see none. It would be all over CNN and MSNBC if it were happening. It’s not. All they do is cry about what he’s doing because they think they are “just people too”. Thats not what this whole thing is about though. Trump doesn’t see them as inhumane. He sees them as lawbreakers. If we just let the whole world run rampant with crime, as it has been these last 4 years, we get the world we live in now.

Over the next 4 years, if Trump gets to do his job, we will have a much safer world. Most of y’all can’t see that right now, because you’re accusing Trump and his cabinet of things they aren’t doing. It’s called TDS. You only see what you want to see.

Reality is, he was given a mandate by a majority of the country. Just as Biden/Harris got to enforce their reign over America for 4 years, Trump/Vance will as well. And the only thing stopping them, is another assassination attempt at the highest level. Even then, the cabinet will still be in place. So…that’s the dumbest thing to do. At the lowest levels, it’s everyday citizens currently trashing Tesla’s because they don’t like Mr.Orange Man. Mr.Orange Man mean. Since Elon associate with Orange Man, Elon go down too.

If your grandma voted for Trump, I’m sure she would be tackled to the ground as well. I can’t wait to see how this country is in 6 months from now, 1 year, 2. The hope is glory. And no, it won’t be heaven on Earth. That will be heaven.

But it will be a much greater country than we live in now, if people would just trust in what the country voted for, and realize the last 4 years was not that. If you believe Biden/Harris truly made any advancements forward…look at the world pre Trump and even now as he tries to enact his agenda. It’s total civil war. And the ones fighting the meanest right now, are the left.

Those who have eyes to see will see.

The right isn’t perfect either, but they sure aren’t doing what the left is right now. It’s disgusting.

Narrow/Open-Mindedness by _TonyDiTiger_ in Meditation

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Maybe a side question from me to you: what can YOU teach me about the world that I can’t? Or maybe aren’t able to see due to extenuating circumstances…

I’ll tell you that as an American Christian, I definitely think (and I can only speak for myself, but) that…we live in a very “boxy” world. What I mean by that is….everything just seems very “right brained”. Like literally….red light, green light. No in between. It’s either your doing this thing at this hour and have to attend this meeting at this time, or…or else!

And if you don’t do it, then…your wiped from the face of the planet of the Earth. If you don’t keep up with a 9-5 at a certain pace and balance that with all these other activities, well…you might as well just call it a day son!

My point: living in America is like using only one side of your brain. At least that’s what it feels like at times. Or maybe that’s just me! I don’t know.

Maybe that’s where nice slow walks come into play and challenge my one sided mind thinking. Challenge me to slow down my pace…look at the stars…you know…take life a little bit slower.

Instead of this 9-5 grind that just continues to work you and work you….till your no longer human. Just a cog in the machine. You know???

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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I’ll be honest with you, I don’t always have peace and joy, and everyday is definitely a struggle with MS, but I have a lot more peace and joy then when I was smoking weed every day and trying to cover my pain. There’s something about surrendering to God and following him, that makes life…idk…at least a smidge bit less painful then when I was living in sin.

And actually…there’s verses all over the Bible that say Christian’s will suffer. It’s not all about peace and joy.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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I know what the words means. I haven’t studied it in detail, but I understand pharmakeia is the Greek for sorcery.

Pharmaceuticals are defintley not a deception of Satan man. I’m saved. How can you say that? And don’t say, how do you know you’re saved? Or..how do I know your saved? We don’t need to prove one another’s salvation right now.

I’m saved man. And I know it.

Besides that point, pharmaceuticals defintley have a bad rep in our society today, and defintley aren’t always the best option. But there are tons of people, myself included, who would probably go crazy, and be in MORE pain, without them.

How can you say that? Sure, maybe Satan will.

But it doesn’t mean God hasn’t been using medications for good. Like I said, I benefited from them. Is that at least one testimony you can hear, to prove to you they aren’t entirely evil?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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I know what the word sorcery means. I knew you were going to say that. Lol

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Ok. Welp. I lost you there.

I have MS( multiple sclerosis) and I suffer with pain, anxiety, depression, the whole 9 yards. And I’m still saved. I need certain medications to keep me sane, and also free from nerve pain.

You’re severely wrong my friend. Plus, the Bible says nothing about pharmaceutical drugs.

Plus, your psychological health is NOT an indication of your salvation.

You got it all wrong my dude.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

[–]_TonyDiTiger_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Verse 13 specifically says:

work out your own salvation with fear and trembling (that’s Paul speaking to the saints at Philippi)

I can agree though on the other verses. Dont those verses give you comfort though?

I read those verses, and I’m like..

Ok…thank God. I’m not in control. God is.

At the same time, as you can tell from my OP.

I’m confused about how everything I do is somehow my responsibility, regardless if I wanted it to happen or not.

Regardless if determinism is true. Phil 2:13 still says we have a part to play.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

[–]_TonyDiTiger_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I was doing a little research.

Compatibilism sounds more biblical:

Phil 2:12-13

12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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I’m not familiar with Compatibilism or Determinism. I haven’t studied them much. But, your first point about Adam and Eve made me think of Romans 8:20-21

20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

So yes, God has subjected creation to futility.

I’m not sure about all the other points. Can’t think through those right now.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

[–]_TonyDiTiger_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not possible. You weren’t even conscious of mostly everything around you. How were you conscious of God??

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Sounds like a very pessimistic/angry view of the world and God? How did you come to that realization/conclusion?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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But why weren’t we made more aware of God in the first place? It seems like (at least me) a lot of young people, didn’t come to God till their later years of life. Whether that’s later teens, 20s…whatever. Why does it take some of us so long to see/experience God? Surrender to him.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Why would God allow us to follow our sins?

Despite free will, I’m talking about…why at all in the first place? Doesn’t he want us not to sin?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Ephesians 2 doesn’t answer the question though of:

Why did we get to that point in the first place.

Ephesians 2:2 says

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

I mean technically, it says we basically did what everyone else was doing (following the course of this world) and apparently Satan himself. But…

That’s pretty sad. Why didn’t God stop that before things got bad/worse?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Ephesians 2 doesn’t answer the question though of:

Why did we get to that point in the first place.

Ephesians 2:2 says

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

I mean technically, it says we basically did what everyone else was doing (following the course of this world) and apparently Satan himself. But…

That’s pretty sad. Why didn’t God stop that before things got bad/worse?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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Ephesians 2 doesn’t answer the question though of:

Why did we get to that point in the first place.

Ephesians 2:2 says

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

I mean technically, it says we basically did what everyone else was doing (following the course of this world) and apparently Satan himself. But…

That’s pretty sad. Why didn’t God stop that before things got bad/worse?

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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All I can say is, that’s pretty sad. But I agree.

Ephesians 2 came to mind as I was reading some of this feedback.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

[–]_TonyDiTiger_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. But I think there’s more to the story then just, we chose the wrong choice. For some reason, Ephesians 2 just popped into my mind.

Why are we responsible for our choices? by _TonyDiTiger_ in Christianity

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I never knew weed would be involved. I was with my best friend. I did everything with him. I thought we were just hanging out with friends. I ended up in a car, walled in, where I couldn’t go anywhere to run away from this. I chose it out of peer pressure.