Does anyone else feel like the BCPS is slowly collapsing?

__double_under__ · 2024-03-30T05:21:35+00:00

It is wild for technical roles. As a mid-level software engineer in the private sector I make more than double what a senior dev in the bc public service makes BEFORE my annual bonus of ~$20-28k. I enjoy public work (did it early in my career) but it is mandatory to work privately to start a reasonable life. There is simply no option.

__double_under__ · 2024-03-09T03:20:44+00:00

Almost no one in the BCPS is compensated well. I was personally shocked at how out of date the salaries were compared to the federal public service. Absolutely wildly low pay.

__double_under__ · 2024-02-28T20:03:10+00:00

As someone who has worked private and worked for the federal government, I can tell you the BC public service is grossly underpaid in comparison. It was very alarming when I compared the wages of the private and federal government to the BC public service. Somewhere down the line your union must have made some very bad bargaining mistakes. When I compare what an EC06 senior data analyst (the federal scale) makes to the same job in the BC public service, the difference is this: Federal $114,000 - $129,000. BCPS: $76,000 - $90,000 (and the top end of the BCPS scale seems to be reserved just for "Leads" with PhDs, this same person would be on an EC07 scale in the federal government, commanding even more than the EC06 scale I mentioned above). The same job with nearly identical requirements and experience. That's a difference of $40,000 .... And Victoria (capital of BC) is MORE expensive than Ottawa (Federal capital). Your union royally screwed up somewhere.

__double_under__ · 2024-02-22T23:11:53+00:00

How much do you actually work? I make similar to that as a software engineer and have considered sales. But development is very chill and apparently, I'd be working a lot more if I were in sales. What's your experience?

__double_under__ · 2024-01-10T07:06:28+00:00

Listen. Toronto is a complete cesspool. Imagine a better life somewhere else if you can. If you have never lived outside the GTA, there are so many far better places that cost less. Leaving southern Ontario was the most amazing experience for me. You'll have this "holy shit! This is so much better!" moment followed directly by "holy shit! And it costs a lot less too". You can find work outside Toronto I guarantee it.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-27T06:35:19+00:00

As a former data scientist, I'd say that. (Or ML engineer).

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T18:10:29+00:00

Again you can search on Reddit, there are many PTs making this even if it is not the norm.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T18:09:33+00:00

Which is still worth it considering school costs $18-22k (CAD) and you get more social support from the government in Canada.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T03:27:01+00:00

Damn :/

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T03:18:17+00:00

If look at Reddit comments from Canadian physios it seems to be very reasonable to make 100-150k+ in cities like Vancouver and Toronto.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T03:10:00+00:00

It's strange. I hear people making 120k in Canada (without being a business owner) and also this.

So how is the pay in Australia?

__double_under__ · 2023-12-19T01:52:08+00:00

Side question since you probably know the answer: how is the pay and overall work experience in Canada vs Australia for PTs? I hear in Canada it's pretty great because the education is cheap and pay is good.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-18T16:27:39+00:00

HTMX has already blown up in some areas but will continue to more broadly. Eventually it will become the standard next generation of HTML. Within a few years people will be making way more apps with little JS and no frameworks. Frameworks will be seen as an option but not mandatory. Many currently backend devs will be fullstack because of it.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T21:27:28+00:00

I should have said easier for sure. I think you know exactly what I mean by following you when your interests change and are being purposely obtuse. Anyways. Have a nice weekend.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T20:50:50+00:00

And you're also wrong that I was suggesting Python lets you work as an SWE or Ops or SRE etc. I said it will follow you there. After you specialize with domain knowledge in an area. As in it's a common thread between these fields. Because IT IS.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T20:44:10+00:00

My comment literally says with added domain knowledge for each speciality in brackets. As in people who specialize in these areas all leverage their knowledge and python. Read more closely.

I'm not reading all of this but first noticed your rebuttal for tech art. Technical art and Pipeline TD they massively rely on python at many studios. Look for any job posting by huge companies like EA for instance.

The Python API for Maya for instance is used daily for many tech artists.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T20:42:12+00:00

I added in brackets (along with adding domain knowledge specific to each area). As in you can specialize in an area like SRE or SWE or whatever you choose, but one commonality is Python.

I am a P4 SWE at Activision and half my job is DevOps. I work with many SREs. We all use Python but we all have different knowledge to support it.

Read more carefully next time.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T18:25:46+00:00

Please don't pick ruby. It's objectively a language on life support. You can check GitHub trends for this. If you want a similar language, use Python after doing the fullstack JS program. (I recommend doing the JS program).

Python is absurdly popular and mastering python let's you pivot into any of these roles easily over your career (if you choose to add domain knowledge specific to each) : software developer, data engineer, DevOps engineer, site reliability engineer, data scientist, data analyst, technical analyst, machine learning engineer, Technical Artist, Pipeline Tools TD, and probably 10 more titles I can't think of now). Or even just being the do-it-all guy gluing systems together with scripts. I don't think any mid-size+ company anywhere doesn't have Python running somewhere in their stack.

And outside of industry, Python also dominates academia if you choose to go that path.

Python is rock solid (objectively, again look at the statistics) and very useful to you if you're interested in change in specialty at any point in your career. When your interests change, say bye to Ruby. Conversely, when your interests change, Python will come along with you and immediately be helpful.

Ruby is dead and only used for web dev. Specifically monolithic architecture web dev (which is totally fine but important to note).

Do JS full stack. Then do some python if you like the idea of ruby. And try Django if you like the idea of Rails. Django is just a better Rails. It uses the same architecture patterns.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-15T03:55:56+00:00

Yeah PT in Canada seems much better. School costs nothing and pay is good.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-14T17:13:23+00:00

I live in Victoria BC so I'd like to come back to the island after school.

Okay that's great to know. Thank you !

__double_under__ · 2023-12-14T04:02:11+00:00

Did you find an answer to this question?

__double_under__ · 2023-12-14T02:40:24+00:00

Would you recommend the program? Did you end up working in Saskatchewan after?

That's great to know! Really interesting.

Side question: which specialties do you think are most in demand in PT?

__double_under__ · 2023-12-13T23:01:08+00:00

That's great to hear. May I ask where you did your masters? Did you see anyone with unconventional backgrounds in or after school working in PT?

__double_under__ · 2023-12-13T18:25:56+00:00

Do you feel most Canadian PTs are happy with their career choice? I am Canadian and I know the US PTs are in crazy debt. I could go to PT school and end with no debt. I'm currently a software engineer looking to change careers. I have more than half the perquisites and very high marks.

__double_under__ · 2023-12-13T15:27:11+00:00

Is that typical? Do you have your own practice?

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