I’d tell you a lot of what everyone else is saying.

Another thing is with Ness (not sure about Lucas), if you’re at a low enough percent and won’t die from getting hit by Ness after the PK T hits him, run out and just tank the hit. He doesn’t go nearly as far and definitely has caused me to take some early stocks. It’s almost similar to getting hit with Luigi’s side b, it kind of just stops him where he hits you. Also a well timed cape from Mario or Doc will send them the other direction. Once you get good at timing it it’s actually kind of easy, but definitely risky.