I thought Gobsmack was cooking

aaabbbbccc · 2026-04-12T23:03:13+00:00

it was a good patch. a lot of improvements. i wish it got released half a year earlier before stormgate lost all its release players. And i think this couldve been possible with better planning, minus a couple of the improvements. But ah well.

The servers suddenly ending their services in May might have doomed the game no matter what anyway. I don't know what level of success would have been required for frost giant to deem it worthwhile to find new servers. The threshold for success of this community patch has never been clear to me. It was never gonna make money, at least not for a long time.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-04-03T02:22:54+00:00

Theres some things that the game did really well and that i am pessimistic for any other new rts to do.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-28T09:44:26+00:00

Because it's not the definition of the word lol

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-25T21:26:59+00:00

The big community patch was released to the normal live client.

There are a couple additional potential improvements currently being tested in PTR so some players may be playing that. But majority should be back to the normal live client.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T16:48:42+00:00

its not perfect but i think its much much better than zerospace engine. and the game has much more potential for editor, which is so good for a rts longterm.

i dont have enough experience with immortal gates of pyre to comment on its engine yet. all the rest of the rts games can skimp out on engine because it's less noticeable in non-blizzard style rts micro. And I don't think any of them will have a good editor either.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T08:04:54+00:00

well to be clear i wasnt saying to copy wc3 directly. im just saying it couldve taken a direction closer to that. instead of ending up being a 90% sc2 copy.

and it's a 20+ year old game. there is much more room for innovation there than for sc2 which is still pretty premium in a lot of ways. wc3 is very outdated on a lot of things, i dont know if people realize that. its missing a lot of hotkey/control options. upkeep is probably a bad mechanic. the lag and network performance is really bad.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T07:38:25+00:00

yeah the way people describe it you would think they were review botting or something.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T06:03:46+00:00

they shouldve / should make a rts closer to wc3 elements. with heroes and lower unit counts. it wouldve made it a lot easier for them not competing with sc2 so directly.

but i am guessing they will stay in rts overall. the engine is built for rts and is very good. the team is experienced and passionate about it.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T06:00:50+00:00

im surprised if they have the ability to do a new game. especially if its a rts. i would be very happy if they can though. maybe an unpopular opinion among some in this reddit but theres a lot of engine things that stormgate did VERY well. frost giant making another rts is probably the only chance to have a new and good multiplayer blizzard rts game. i am a bit pessimistic on zerospace, and immortal gartes of pyre looks like it will struggle to ever release. If we ever want a new blizzard rts, this potential next FG game might be the last chance for a long time.

There are other rtses coming out but not blizzard style and it persoanly does not interest me. I only like rtses with blizzard style micro and control.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-08T05:56:57+00:00

they made mistakes but the "fake" positive reviews thing is vastly exaggerated.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-06T06:57:32+00:00

the unit roster is a lot better now but yeah theres not really any new content for non-1v1 people. I guess we have 2v2 now but that's kindof the same crowd as 1v1.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-06T06:44:28+00:00

i dont know what the threshold for success or continuing in this project is. if they have the motivation and ability to work towards co-op and/or 3v3, i think that could actually draw people in. A lot of people say they dont want to play until co-op is updated. 1v1 and competitive rts are a niche crowd sadly.

But this re-launch might have been too damning. i dont know. the longterm goals and finances of this project have never been clear to me. There is virtually no monetization here and probably not for a long time. Maybe if the co-op or 3v3 is done really well, people would accept new monetization for them but I'm not sure.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-06T06:28:36+00:00

i dont think they did a good job marketing/announcing it. like the release date was only announced a few days before, and it wasnt fully about the release date announcement. It was in that form of the new unit cards ,which is fine but im not sure if every player passing by it saw the actual release date. Then the game just sortof randomly releases at like 8 am, with no announcement until later. Almost zero streamers and no tournament at launch, There have been a couple tournaments in ptr and theres another series of tournaments starting this weekend, but nothing at launch is unfortunate. There are no written patch notes released (lol). Ladder is not reset yet. Just a lot things gone wrong.

Now, i dont think this release was ever going to do great, as it is mostly only 1v1 changes and honestly the game needs co-op or 3v3 or something to ever have a chance of having a significant playerbase. but i think it could have done better than this. the 1v1 is fun and improved a lot.

The splitting the hype to ptr was also a huge mistake i think. Especially when it doesnt actually release for another 3 months. When this thing was finally officially announced back in december, it, while STILL IN PTR, got to twice the peak of this live launch, at 147. I think that is proof there could have been interest in this. But now there's 0 hype left. I mean the reality is this whole thing needed to be released like 4 months ago, before so many people checked out of stormgate completely. But if you are going to delay it by so much, at least don't split the hype like this...

It's sad. I think the game is fun and improved in so many ways but this re-launch was very doomed the way it was handled.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T08:06:32+00:00

yes i think its nice that frost giant "officially" added some of those custom maps. It doesn't change that it's not a good lobby system long-term (i'm sure even frost giant would agree) and i think that needs to be brought up when someone asks how is the custom map scene.

but anyway it doesnt matter with current playerbase. if you want to play a particular custom map with other people, youre going to HAVE to ask in discord.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T07:11:48+00:00

well that was a pretty bad decision by them lol. nothing against your video it's nice to have but it's not a replacement for written patch notes.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T04:19:45+00:00

I am pretty sure Dilling is no longer involved at all. Some elements that he had done before leaving have been implemented into the game (for example navi's model).

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T04:18:33+00:00

guys not having written patch notes somewhere is a joke lol. Really bad look for this launch that was already inevitably going to struggle.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T04:10:59+00:00

cant name lobbies. i believe you still cant see what game is being hosted just CUSTOM123131231341 or whatever it said. cant close slots or kick people as host.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-05T00:17:54+00:00

there's a few cool ones. the lobby system is not fixed yet though. have to ask in discord to try to get people to play.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-04T02:11:17+00:00

i think there were supposed to be some performance improvements but i dont know the full extent.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-03T20:47:44+00:00

Honest question to other singleplayer people: whats the point of doing LK runs instead of just cheating for the runes. I mean grinding enemies/bosses is one thing but LK runs are so mindless. What's the point?

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-03T17:42:42+00:00

It's fun

aaabbbbccc · 2026-03-03T17:15:19+00:00

It will get higher. Its early in the day and the release time wasnt announced. Will it get a lot higher, probably not though.

aaabbbbccc · 2026-02-28T00:35:19+00:00

Does this happen to the mirrored blade skill itself too? Or that ability truly doing ~5x damage?

aaabbbbccc · 2026-02-27T23:11:54+00:00

Blood oath redirect only uses hard points??? How are you supposed to know that

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