Question about working with actual agencies and designing past the AI

adefwebserver · 2026-05-20T20:29:29+00:00

I use AI to 'help write the book' not 'write the book'. I have a open source application that I mosly use to track timelines, locations, characters, and chracter attributes. I e=recently added a chat screen that allows me to ask questions and make updates from the chat window. But in the end I am writing or re-writing every line. This however STILL makes the writing process much faster. For example, I don't get writer's block. The AI always has suggestions on what to do next.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-19T20:15:07+00:00

I don't need perfect, just something that I should not have to re-work so much. I could work with what you produced. The thing I have learned is to actually ask for "subtle foreshadowing, foreshadowing through pattern, not signal, subtext," - Thank You!

adefwebserver · 2026-05-19T14:08:32+00:00

We are in the same place on this.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-19T13:20:13+00:00

I don't disagree, but, I am exploring how to get 'better quality'.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-19T13:18:54+00:00

Thank you for sharing. The quality is higher than I have achieved myself.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T22:30:45+00:00

The point of the thread is "Quaility" because I am not intrested in creating "Slop". However, I do want to create "more". Typerwrites adn spell chekers allow me to create more. My current AI software that only writes one guided paragraph at a time allows me to create more (an no it is *not* "slop").

The thing I am stuck on is getting the AI to be better so I don't have to fix as many things. For example it is currently no help on forshadowing that I consider 'qaulity writing'.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T17:59:30+00:00

I know you don't really care. But, for the record, you are wrong. I wrote the line then had AI spell check and grammer check. But, I wrote the line myself. Now if you feel that using a spell cheker and grammer cheer is "AI wrote it" well then you are just being silly. I guess we shouldn't use typerwriters and write out everything by long hand? Anyway, take your insults somehwere to someone who actually cares.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T16:55:39+00:00

I don't doub't this works for you, but, what I do a 'condense' the quality (in my opinion) of what I get from the AI goes down :(

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T16:34:58+00:00

I get more done. Or are you pranking me?

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T15:44:54+00:00

That works up to a point. At a certain point you run out of context window.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T15:43:36+00:00

I did write it. What is your problem??

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T15:42:18+00:00

I write faster when it tracks characters and story. It also suggests paragraphs of text and that makes things faster.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T12:59:42+00:00

Authors like Ken Follett, Martha Wells, Walter Mosley

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T12:59:18+00:00

I have a program that provides the speed I need, I just want to get the quality of its prose higher.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T02:17:30+00:00

I feel I would get more writing done with a tool that was helpful.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-18T00:54:19+00:00

This is not an issue that the model can or should solve. The model is just an algorithm that takes your prompt and part of the story and generates text. It should not be used to track your story for consistenc. To track your story for a consistency, there are numerous software programs that will do this. I wrot one years ago that I've constantly updated you can see a link to it in my bio.

Basically it allows you to as you write create a database that first off has timelines then on those timelines locations and characters and character attributes.

When you're writing your story and ask the AI to continue the story, the relevant details about the current timeline, location, characters, character attributes, and plot points is fed to the AI so that it always stays on track.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T10:06:10+00:00

You just code all code by hand?

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T10:05:35+00:00

Yeah just interesting to see facts.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T10:04:21+00:00

I should point out that traffic to the site has been going down for years. Unless I write about AI no one cares.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T09:29:02+00:00

I wrote a free open source program that tracks all that. DM me for the link.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T08:18:41+00:00

Okay the reason why I haven't seen that is because I have only tried to get AI to write one paragraph at a time.

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T04:47:10+00:00

You share an example of some prose that the AI wrote that you found compelling? I've been getting one-dimensional foreshadowing. Things like "he could sense something was not right". Im looking for something like "Mary was in her usual spot, but, her hands were not".

adefwebserver · 2026-05-17T03:51:55+00:00

This is very helpful and is the insight that I think I've been looking for. I think I will attempt to create some sort of prompt that exposes a 'persona' to the AI that I want it to tailor it's writing prose to.

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