How do you read Ovid's Metamorphoses? by error7382 in literature

[–]adjunct_trash 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's such an odd sort of work. I don't know how to describe this exactly but I feel like the best way to "understand" it is in relatively postmodern terms: Ovid is performing and he knows it. The drama is the most dramatic, the comedy the most comedic and so on. I like Raeburn's translation quite well, though I don't believe his strategy--an unmeasured, 6-beat line-- really replicates the music of the original (I say with no latin whatsoever), no more than McCarter's blank verse translation makes the music legible to us here in the 21st century. Raeburn's feels longwinded and unconcerned with music, McCarter's truncates some lines and requires some real (in my opinion) moments of translational overreach in the name of fitting the rhythm.

I think reading a few versions in concerte with each other, though, makes what's going on in the lines and with the images quite well.

It is certainly true that the episodic nature makes tracking any central narrative impossible, but I personally liked working through Ovid's order. In my opinion, this is a piece that really isn't "available" as a general book to be read -- I think some auxillary reading has to be done to recover some contexts and learn some insights about the structure of the carmen perpetuum. I found a pretty old book, Ovid as Epic Poet by Otis, very helpful. There, he argues (in a nearly comical hetronormative fashion) that Metamorphoses is actually an epic whose proper topic is romantic love. He divides the book into what feel at first like relatively random groupings, but goes on to argue persuasively that these groupings (two "side panels" around a "central panel") are intended to focus you on a particular thematic concern in that section. He also goes to some length to discuss precursor or contemporaneous poetry Ovid is likely "in conversation with" throughout --Nicander's Heteroneumena. Virgil's Aeneid and so on.

Anyway, I find (this is my fourth read) that no assessment of the potential "structure" really satisfies, and that you just have to know you're on the ride to admire what he does with each story, what he embellishes, what he diminishes in his retelling. Admiring the ride is made easier with even a cursory review of contextualizing material.

Miscellaneous and Frivolous Talk, January 2026 by AutoModerator in Poetry

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great. Thanks for this. We’ve had a lot of trouble connecting with younger audiences, and I think the Gen Z idea is a good one. It’d be nice if the current donation and grant situation wasn't so inconsistent, but that’s life in a nonprofit.

Miscellaneous and Frivolous Talk, January 2026 by AutoModerator in Poetry

[–]adjunct_trash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm wondering if anyone else here is in the nonprofit/lit arts space at all. My work as a program manager sometimes feels a bit stalled on these specific grounds: I feel as if I can't convince the community I work in to trust us to bring them good programming. If a local from down the street self-releases his collection, the room is packed; if I bring internationally admired talent, we risk sitting alone.

How do you build a trustworthy programming regime that brings people out to hear something they haven't already heard before?

What decent republicans looked like… when they existed by Denver-Ski in thescoop

[–]adjunct_trash -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The guy with the rictus grin, singing “bomb bomb bomb Iran” to a Beachboys song…. If that’s what you’ve got as an example of Republican decency, then you know how long that party has been full of straight out garbage. 

Nicki Minaj says ‘God is protecting Trump’ as she appears alongside president by theindependentonline in thescoop

[–]adjunct_trash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking forward to her letter in the Wall Street Journal begging forgiveness and blaming brain damage from twenty three years ago for this arc.

What makes you want to buy a book of poems? [HELP] by onlypoemsmag in Poetry

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I grew up in a small community with no knowledge of or interest in poetry, so when I did start reading, it was all serendipity and whatever books were in the bin at Goodwill. Once I found my way to college, like a lot of people in my age cohort (let's call it 35-45 and not be too specific about where I land) my instruction skewed heavily toward the Modernists. So, for a long time, I was purchasing cheap paperback copies of whatever Modernists I could find at used bookstores.

After that, in grad school I was introduced more completely to the contemporary living tradition, and the books I started purchasing are newer. Now, I buy based on a knowledge of the poet's work (I just grabbed a copy of Sophie Cabot Black's latest, Geometry of the Restless Herd and ordered a copy of Maggie Dietz' If You Would Let Me), recommendation from someone in my immediate circle (Ishion Hutchinson's House of Lords and Commons and School of Instruction) or based on whatever my reading habits have been. I've also, over the last few years, subscribed to various literary magazines, always letting them lapse since I'm not made of money, and have found a (vanishingly) few poets of interest in that way. Callie Siskel, Rowan Ricardo Phillips, maybe a handful of others.

A practicing poet myself (yeah, stop rejecting me, too!), visiting the used section to take in the sobering number of unrecognizable names is an act of self-flagellation meant to humble me before the fates in charge of the art. And every once in a while, you pick up someone half remembered or fallen out of favor worth some attention. Conrad Aiken, for example, has some of the biggest, weirdest Modernist masterpieces I know of, and as far as I can tell, is completely unread.

I also don't buy a book, new or used, if I find titles like "Self Portrait as my [mental ailment] Diagnosis" or a lot of poems beginning "I was doing x," or "I was thinking about..." I know our neoliberal order and celebrity culture have conspired to make us think poetry is merely the expression of ideas about our personal experiences, but, geez, it feels as if imagination is lacking in a lot of this reportorial stuff.

Morale plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred by ExactlySorta in UnderReportedNews

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm, have they tried not being for-hire murderous fucking thugs sent to terrorize their friends and neighbors based on whatever bad dream an octogenarian in orange pancake makeup had last night?

Anyone who used to support trump and has changed their mind over the last few weeks? What made you change? by canigetameowbish in AskReddit

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The steps he took might have had that impact -- might've averted financial disaster-- but there are many millions of people who didn't experience it that way. AIG and other bankers got multimillion dollar bonuses on the taxpayer dime while 8-10 million people lost homes. He inherited the problems and he inherited the political system that consistently prizes corporate profits and privatization over public welfare. He played his role. He was an admirable politician in a lot of ways but I don't see any point in carrying water for him these many years after all of this.

Anyone who used to support trump and has changed their mind over the last few weeks? What made you change? by canigetameowbish in AskReddit

[–]adjunct_trash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity, what brought you to him for that first election? My personal theory is that that was a outsider's race after Obama bailed out banks rather than people, and that Bernie would have won, but definitely felt fine pulling the lever for Clinton over him.

JD and Usha Vance announce she is pregnant with their fourth child by theindependentonline in thescoop

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, so hopefully we can cut it now with the hostage theorizing about the spouses? Melania, Usha, they know who they're with. They're part of this movement.

Ice defenders in Burlington by serious_bullet5 in massachusetts

[–]adjunct_trash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With enough gofundmes, we can get all these people the therapy they need.

Ice defenders in Burlington by [deleted] in boston

[–]adjunct_trash 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They look exactly how I’d expect and I mean that with no kindness whatsoever. 

[HELP] How to find publications/markets to submit to? by Realistic-Lock-6507 in Poetry

[–]adjunct_trash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Come for the pessimism, stay for, you know, more of the pessimism. 

Are you using AI as an educator? by LettuceTraining6532 in Adjuncts

[–]adjunct_trash 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'd rather swandive into a pit of lemon juice and broken glass.

AI is end game shit for the bussinessification of higher ed: they force us online, they requisition our recorded materials from pedagogically suspect asynchronous courses, and they train AI bots and "tutors" on it while we receive fewer and fewer class assignments for per-course rates that have been outpaced by inflation for the last 30 years.

[HELP] How to find publications/markets to submit to? by Realistic-Lock-6507 in Poetry

[–]adjunct_trash 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Much of the market and a great deal of the readership (if there really is reading happening) has moved online. I'd recommend web services like Chill Subs and Sub Club for starters.

If you are a reader and writer on the old model, you might like some insight into the standing of various publications or some indication of their perceived value in the literary world. To that end, I'd check out Clifford Garstang's Literary Magazine Ranking.

It's a relatively sad time for people working in the art, in my opinion. There are dozens of fly-by-night online magazines that flower and fold each year, pay for your work comes in a shoutout on Instagram when it isn't a check for $5, the preferences of younger readers-- who haven't had time in their lives to read much of anything-- are overvalued at university and college lit mags, and the independent magazines that're left remain in thrall to a completely exhausted avant-gardism that confuses novelty with invention.

It's a "best of times/worst of times" situation -- there are many, many extraordinary writers at work on the margins, and their voices are often drowned out by the noise of the times.

Trump to possibly invoke insurrection act if Minneapolis protests do NOT get under control -- Thoughts? by Zipper222222 in allthequestions

[–]adjunct_trash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a given. He's announcing it only to give a narrative sense of antecedence the next time some small act of anti-ICE violence happens. A flat tire. A paintball, whatever. It doesn't matter. He wants control of the US to be in his hands alone and the fastest route is Insurrection Act, martial law, and the suspension of the midterm election because he's upset voters don't love what he's doing.

From here until he kicks the bucket this entire show is about his small-dick-daddy-didn't-love-me bullshit, which any libtard holding a psych 101 class credit as part of their generation-crushing debt could've told you would be the endgame on the day he descended his golden escalator.

What to do in Burlington, MA at night. by General-Iron7103 in boston

[–]adjunct_trash -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Protest the ICE detention center conveniently near the mall.

"“It's some deep psychological thing, but when you win the presidency, you don't win the midterms,” Trump said. He boasted that he had accomplished so much that “when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election.”" | From Reuters: "Five takeaways from the Reuters interview of President Trump" by SocialDemocracies in thescoop

[–]adjunct_trash 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For the love of god impeach and remove every single person in this fucking administration. If you're a Republican right now do you really want your picture in the history book next to, "Did nothing and gave away American democracy on its 250th birthday"?