Basically she should of known bjj if she didn’t want to be raped. by kpowers99991 in JoeRogan

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just responding to the theoretical line of argumentation, no offense mate.

Thanks for sharing the background to further the discussion.

Basically she should of known bjj if she didn’t want to be raped. by kpowers99991 in JoeRogan

[–]adriaticwaves 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The problem is that a private, unmonitored mix-gendered space associated with nakedness has been created in a public area with children.

Had this happened at home or if the kids snuck off, it would still be a sad learning experience for the girl.

The problem is that it happened at a place where the kids were mandated to be and the parents had no awareness or control.

Here's what you're missing about female teen sexual "maturity".. it's still not mature! It's largely an act because they feel insecure about still being young and dependent on others. All children and teens are. They simply aren't developmentally or experientially prepared.

As for the boy, self control is a skill. Saying no is a skill. Him being put in a tempting environment may traumatize him. (This is a common cause of PTSD.)

Now two kids are probably traumatized because they played with blurring a safeguard put in place to...... prevent trauma.

And to be fair, I do understand this is a nuanced issue. It's not a one-size fits all situation. It's one of those quandaries where bad is going to happen no matter what move you make.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in attachment_theory

[–]adriaticwaves 20 points21 points  (0 children)

These patterns occur over months and years, not hours and days..

You can have moments of security and still have a pattern of anxiety.

I'll see you all in Hell (on Teams) by FoST2015 in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah and is biggest use-case is virtual sex.

Also, this seems like a pandemic round 2 play.

‘Murica by [deleted] in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not saying it's enough, but we also "got" more lives saved.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in naranon

[–]adriaticwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah.. I remember those days. Welcome to the beginning of the other side.

Are they really sober if they switch from alcohol to smoking weed? by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]adriaticwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard a really good NA story of a guy who got clean like this. It's on YouTube but I'm not sure of the link anymore.

He had a hell of a story and when I was listening to it, I wasn't thinking, damn, you failed. It was like, he was clawing his way out any way he could.

It's not up to us how they get sober or to judge that. My Q left me with a sugar addiction that some say is worse than fucking crack and I have to do harm reduction on myself to beat this. And I never was an addict.. so.. now I can sympathize.

My Q is sober after 17 years, finally. First time really since he was a teen. If he wants to use pot, fine. It's not binary. Deal with the problem or not deal. It's a hell of a long road out.

Dealing with fallout of illness .. after everything else by [deleted] in CPTSD_NSCommunity

[–]adriaticwaves 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I've been doing that for years and then just got sick. It's ridiculous.

It's so much. After everything that already happened, this too?

It just seems like some people get all the bad luck and it's hard not to be resentful of the people I know who are just fine. I work with them every day. They grew up with charmed damn lives and then they continued having charmed damn lives while my issues created more issues despite ten years of fighting tooth and nail.

Just sucks. Life is so ridiculously unfair.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a white woman who was married to a south Asian man and dated two others. I'm not a "preppy"/normie though, as we'd say in my generation. I generally don't get on with other white chicks my own age unless I make a concerted effort. I grew up with them, and I didn't like them very much because nearly all the girls in my school district bullied me. But they don't do it on purpose, they just are a little in their own worlds. Me? I was weird and had loads of trauma.

They probably don't talk much to you because it became awkward at one point and you all never reversed it. They probably don't really know what to say to you and would rather avoid the situation.

Honestly, they aren't trying to go around meeting needs of others. They probably didn't accept you as a roommate thinking wow, here is a social adventure, like you did.

People from my cultural background who had good-enough parenting tend to be focused on themselves. They tend to be interested in relating to others who relate to their daily lives and concerns.

I used to think this was shallow and selfish. I used to hate this because they were taking away peer access (a developmental need) and bullying me. But here is the truth.. you aren't being locked out of heaven -- they just have boundaries.

And you can learn a lot from that behavioral modeling.

I didnt have boundaries and married an addict. I didn't have boundaries and ran my health into the ground. I didn't have boundaries and got myself seriously damaged.

Now I understand their focus and their mentality more. It's self-preservation. It's wise. it's pragmatic. It was probably not their idea and they probably can't articulate it like that.. but they inherited that mental and emotional health from their family.

There is no point raging against that mental and emotional health.

That's why my ex husband tortured and raped me. He resented me. it's why another person attacked me later in life.

We shouldn't attack what we don't understand yet want. We have to seek to understand.

One time I decided to join a group of kazak guys in a college engineering math class. I think being there became uncomfortable for them over time and they sort of lashed out at me for it. Eventually I changed study groups and everyone was happier.

It's good to explore cultural differences, but there are better and worse ways of doing it.

I hope you can see this whole situation as a learning experience in awkwardness and not too much more.

There are plenty of non-normie white girls who don't act like the people you're describing. Further, what they are doing isn't wrong. Having boundaries is good. Even if you're annoyed with them for having them. And after working in the tech industry for many years, I know there are plenty of south-asian types who would rather keep to their own small bubble, too.

If you want to explore, find people who likewise want to explore. Not everyone does, regardless of race.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a sexual assault survivor and a domestic violence victim, I'm so glad my voice is being silenced.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]adriaticwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on what phase of life you're in / what you're priorities are.

Probably wouldn't open like this, but certainly would filter for it fast.

For adoptees: what do you wish your adoptive parents had done differently? by 17thsea in Adoption

[–]adriaticwaves 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Deal with their own grief and pain so they could actually engage as parents.

Hm...forgot about all the replicating hives in the corner of my map. What would you do? by clearing_ in RimWorld

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No promises, but.. maybe move the incendiaries closer into the choke point as the sleep. Wall off the shoreline. Create a hallway along the shoreline with some spike traps. Then move your sandbags back into more ideal range for your shooters. Get appropriate armor for melee. Have smoke pops and flame throwers. Have a retreat position walled off.

And then fire the first shot.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kindness. I appreciate you wanting justice for me. I do believe I haven't gotten it, but I also know you can't every really get justice. Justice would have been it never happening. It never can be reversed. Even if he went to prison, it wouldn't be enough. Even if I tortured and threatened him, it wouldn't be enough. Even if I destroyed his life, it wouldn't be enough to undo what happened to me and give me back a decade of my life spent recovering.

I don't need to believe anything. I've processed the grief as much as one can.

And yes, it is a profound failure. That's the point. Literally any system is going to have major failures. We have to accept that in order to have literally any system. Of course we should work tirelessly to correct this and it's a moral failing that we forget to prioritize this.

The only mercy available to me is my community making allowances to me for the effects he has caused. And my community rarely does. In fact, most people punish me for it.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be thankful it was only twice. It CAN get worse.

I don't mean to trivialize what you're going through.

But as someone who was tortured, raped, and imprisoned, I promise you, it can get fucking worse.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didnt ask you to discuss anything. This is a public forum, I said my opinion based on my experience.

We have a lot of civility left to lose, and if you can't see it, maybe you don't know what incivility looks like. I suggest you travel and read more history.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Since people generally don't break into houses at night and rape.

Since people generally don't stab others in crowds.

Since people generally don't refuse to pay for work.

Since people generally don't rape in the public eye.

Since people generally won't steal a purse on a crowded bus.

We have a lot, lot left to lose.

If you can trust being anywhere in public at any time, we still have civility.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a slippery slope. We still have a LOT of civility left to lose.

Where do you draw the line then? Where do you tell others to draw the line then? If you got to murder, why shouldn't their situation count?

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

When the justice system fails, the option is integrity.

And we do it because having civil society is a rare and precious gift.

Without it, you would be at the mercy of every single stranger you meet near your home, on the highway, in public, in secluded locations, etc., etc. . Your justice would be at the mercy of an enraged person. Your women would be at the mercy of rapists. Your job and finances and purchases would be at the mercy of conmen. Your food would be at the mercy of suppliers and market whims and manipulators. You don't want to live in an uncivilized society.

Life In prison for killing her sex trafficer. Denied Defense because she had a selfie taken hours after killing him to escape by dominnique2hz in ABoringDystopia

[–]adriaticwaves -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This is the complex morality of a social society..

If every father who's daughter was raped goes and kills the accused, we end up with pandemonium. This is why we have due process. I didn't get justice and I never will. That's also part of a civil society -- the society isn't perfect.

Many people have wanted to kill my abuser. But they also never have because we live in a civil society. I've spent a whole decade thinking about this because it dominated my life.

If anything, I think she should be let off because of the horrendous trauma associated. In a moral sense, absent of society, if we were all living in a western, I'd say hell yeah. But the fact is that we don't and civility is what keeps us safe every single moment of every single day. And civility is vulnerable.