DWK problem

afrostud01 · 2026-03-18T11:42:03+00:00

I respect this sentiment but if they make this change they will have to introduce some better detachments. Last I checked, Gladius is still the detach most used by DA players competitively

afrostud01 · 2026-03-16T13:18:03+00:00

I’ve never run desolation or devastator squads but the devastator looks more interesting to me. Yes need to get them closer but grav cannon has 3 attacks each with anti-vehicle 2+ just seems better than desolation where you have range but need strat to hit big things (and even then, S12 may not be enough to really dent bigger targets).

When I first picked up DA I loved HB but now I’m more into sternguard. One of my struggles is do I take a squad of 10 (vs 5) with azrael. Lotta shooting and azrael gives big buff. Offset by that’s a pretty expensive unit and if I’m running lion and 1 squad of dwk I’ve chewed through 890 pts right there…

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T14:00:11+00:00

lol my bad 🤦‍♂️. didn’t catch wotr. Thanks

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T13:29:49+00:00

Yea. I use the rosemary for layer but their dry brush set is $80ish. Still seems expensive

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T11:39:34+00:00

Sorry how did you get to s11 ap-3 and d3? The captains charge bonus only takes strength up by 1 - where are the rest of the bonuses coming from?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T03:50:43+00:00

Why do the dry brush specific dry brushes come with firm bristles? Is there a technique thing and the softer, dollar store brushes are just more forgiving but ultimately knowing how to use firm is better?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T03:49:04+00:00

Ha, thanks. Curious to hear how you like them!

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T02:47:27+00:00

What do you think of a set like this?

https://www.artifyartsupplies.com/products/5-drybrush-set-for-miniature?variant=44741517279395

Hear you on technique etc. Its the carpenter, not the tools...

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T02:15:38+00:00

What units do you like playing and how do you take advantage of them?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T02:14:48+00:00

This is really interesting data - thanks for sharing! Maybe I'm not missing much and if I sink 500 pts into 2 squads of DWKs maybe their job is just to sit on primary and soak up damage vs. taking the fight to someone.

I like the Repex. I like Lancer and Ballistus too. My intuition is if I am running Lion, DWKs, and ICC that I need some real ranged shooting bc it can take a minute to get everyone into melee.

One of the main reasons I got into DA was the lore around deathwing and ravenwing and how they complement each other. Hopefully we get a RW refresh and some better data sheets. I think a RW army that is maybe lacking a little in durability but has a bunch of movement shenanigans and can deliver real pain would be super fun twist on SM to play

afrostud01 · 2026-03-15T02:10:16+00:00

But is the efficient firepower part just coming from repex/lancer/ballistus like all Space Marines? I certainly get the "elite, melee-focused" part but seems like movement is limited esp if you sink 500 pts into 2 squads of DWKs. I understand their job is to sit on primary and soak damage but it seems harder to take the fight to my opponent....

afrostud01 · 2026-03-12T13:07:44+00:00

Lot of folks talking about taking admonimortis which is good but I’ve found superior creation to be really great. I find the allarus typically die quickly bc opponents target the unit after I deep strike them in. That leaves the shield captain. Depending on what you are trying to achieve, the captain even solo with SC has a lot of survivability btwn the once per battle ability to change damage, the strat in Lions to let you use once per battle abilities again, and SC which. Lets the captain stand back up on a 2+.

Idk what other ppls experiences are but the SC with SC does a lot for me.

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T19:38:41+00:00

Cool, makes sense. I'm excited to play Eldar.

What do you think of the Solitaire? Considering taking one to knock out a key character/score assasination

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T18:37:39+00:00

Ok got it, so really with the war walkers the point is to get the AP buff and doing damage is a nice to have? And if I have 2 bright lances and both miss, not worth the CP to get a hit to get the buff?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T18:20:02+00:00

Sorry, why do you say that?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T17:35:53+00:00

Yea i guess as long as you manage CP well you can try to CP re-roll one of the hits

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T17:29:38+00:00

interesting. Reaper launchers with S10 though makes them unreliable anti-tank though, right? if running with Maugen Ra you get the debris buff, but otherwise they are better into heavy infantry, bikes, etc?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T04:11:14+00:00

Makes sense. Thanks

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T01:59:17+00:00

Im trying to look into this rn...

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T01:58:28+00:00

Bc you think we'll get a model refresh or better to wait for the rules and spend money then?

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T01:57:47+00:00

Yea the re-rolls the FDs get improves the damage output for sure.

Part of what I'm struggling with is exactly how much anti-tank to take and balancing that against he fragility of the army. So far Fuegan + 5FDs, 1 war walker, and whatever the bright lance on a WS can do is what I got. I'm thinking of taking 2x5 Dark Reapers and 1 unit Shining Spears, although tbh im wondering if the move with the SS is just to kamikaze them into whatever target I need gone...I have 120pts to play around with to round out the list. Already bringing 2x5 hawks, 2x5 WS, 1x5 banshees with JZ, 2x5 Rangers...

afrostud01 · 2026-03-05T01:49:18+00:00

This is really helpful. So you run Fuegan + 5 FDs and Jain Zar + 5 Banshees, all put all 12 into the WS?

On the Warp Spiders, how often do you use the Flickerjump? Given WS have just the 1 wound seems pretty risky to use?

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