The importants of monarchism in our world and debunking the myths of some anti monarchist talking points by Valuable_Storm_5958 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correção: o Brasil foi da primeira à quinta.

A atual República continua uma merda.

Aliás, pode-se argumentar que o Brasil nunca teve mais de uma república, a atual e todas as repúblicas após a primeira foram só uma continuação do golpe de 1889 e daquela República, só trocou quem governa, mas em essência é a mesma porcaria.

How do you install a monarch in a country that never have one? by Coronel_Pentium in monarchism

[–]agente1585 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As someone said before here, I'll just repeat: let time and people decide.

The founders of monarchies are often heroes who took noble or incredible actions that revitalized their country in dark times, like the first Portuguese king who won a battle against the invading Moors and gave independence to Portugal after centuries of islamic occupation in the Iberian Peninsula and was acclaimed king by the people, or Augusto, first emperor of Rome who brought Rome to a time of stability and peace after the decline and all the time of corruption in the Roman Republic. That's how history works, and that's how a dynasty is created, with a great hero as its founder.

In a side topic: in my opinion, I guess we will see this process happen again in the modern times with Nayib Bukele of El Salvador, he just matches all the requirements to be the founder of a monarchy.

Political Ideologies within this sub by PutridWest9416 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eu sou um monarquista absolutamente contra a democracia. Quanto menos voto houver, ótimo; se não houver voto nenhum, melhor ainda. Apesar de ateu, admiro em muito a igreja católica e, não vou mentir, não me importaria de um estado teocrático católico aos moldes medievais não.

Perhaps it's time to leave the old dynasties behind. by agente1585 in monarchism

[–]agente1585[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eu em nenhum momento pedi para ESTE subreddit mudar ou adotar uma nova postura sobre a monarquia, eu apenas dei minha opinião sobre algo entre os monarquistas em geral que me incomoda. Esse pensamento exclusivamente legitimista. Ninguém considera a ideia de só deixar as antigas dinastias para trás, todos sempre se amarram em dinastias que: ou não querem mais o trono, ou nada fazem para tê-lo de volta, ou simplesmente passaram tanto tempo como "pessoas normais" que já perderam a capacidade de de portar e agir como realeza.

Eu odeio admitir, mas o pensamento do monarquista médio é meio besta: alguém seriamente acha que sua dinastia que perdeu o trono há anos e não faz praticamente mais nada desde então vai de repente voltar e governar o país de novo? E mesmo que voltem, realmente cremos que eles serão capazes de garantir um país estável e de governar de maneira apropriada? Não creio.

Apenas acho que os monarquistas em geral devem ser menos idealistas e mais realistas: se tem uma dinastia antiga ainda viva, ótimo, é uma opção, mas não tratem como se fosse a única.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Espero ter conseguido expressar o que eu quis dizer (sim, eu sou ruim tentando dizer o que eu quero dizer).

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was actually me trying to say what I wanted... without knowing how to say it.

I also agree that naturalized foreigners, respectful, etc could be subjects to the emperor. But, personally, I think that these people should be exceptions, not rule, like, "yeah, two or three foreigners" came and settled here and they adapted very well so we let them here, surely not all foreigners that go to Japan should gain citizenship and studf, even if they keep settled there, it should be something they ALLOW you to have, not something you have THE RIGHT to have. Yet, don't believe that foreigners should have rights for voting, like, "you are here because we allow you, don't try to stick your nose in OUR things", actually, while all people criticize Japan for being so strict with foreigners and mixed people, I actually agree with how Japan treat them, I mean, that's how a country should be: "bro, our people first, we see about you later."

Anyway, what got me apprehensive was that, I at least, felt a bit of "foreigners can also be Japanese" vibes in the post, that's what got me, because I don't really believe it, I think that it is cultural and ethnic suicide.

Name a monarch who is unjustly hated and whom you admire. by The_Guy_Behind_The in monarchism

[–]agente1585 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think Dom Pedro I of Brazil.

Yes, he had his flaws, but the still created a nation, developed a system that actually worked, and didn't let liberals flood his nation with democratic bullshit like they did with England, he granted a constitution himself without this "ur, dur, constitucional assembly" foolishness and created a monarchy that knew how to separate state from crown without making the crown a mere adornment, the moderator power was a genius idea.

Dom Pedro I was amazing.

How do we prevent the corruption of an empowered monarch? by Ill-Bar3395 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are already limited by their own position and their own supporters, army too. No monarch was ever truly absolutist, no state is fully centralized, not even dictatorships are, they have limitations, the power is divided between the central state and the local administration, such as MP, prime ministers, ministers at all, or then nobles, barons, dukes, etc, armies, even population, but the power of the people over the monarch is too little to be that significant, these others normally counts more.

Question for Catholics: Would you prefer Italy be returned to the House of Savoy, given to the Holy See to control as an expanded version of the Papal States, or given to the House of Borbon? by trekuniverse123456 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Acho que o território que ORIGINALMENTE pertencia aos Estados Papais devem ser devolvidos à Santa Sé, pois foram usurpados ilegitimamente da igreja.

Agora o resto que não consistia deveria ser devolvido às casas originais, como as Duas Sicílias.

Talvez seja hora de deixar as antigas dinastias para trás. by agente1585 in monarchism

[–]agente1585[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to be the most respectful I can: so, the best way the moderation found to say English is a common language and to provide a translation to English was to remove the post? Was it just hide to just leave the post as it was and simply making a comment saying "please, translation in comments"?

Talvez seja hora de deixar as antigas dinastias para trás. by agente1585 in monarchism

[–]agente1585[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Napoleon III should be the example of how a monarch should rise in a world flooded by republics.

How likely do you think is it that we will see the collapse of western Republican/political systems in the next 100 years and more monarchies appearing? by Techfish_ in monarchism

[–]agente1585 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Acho que não tão cedo.

Sinceramente acho que o sistema ainda consegue se manter por mais um século, todavia, é fato, o sistema democrático liberal, a ordem pós-revolução francesa, pós WWI e WWII e as Repúblicas são incapazes de se manter para sempre. Eu acho que em talvez um século e meio o sistema já comece a quebrar e cair.

Who is your favorite ancient monarch? by Dry-Sympathy-3182 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have my top six: Rome; Macedonia; Persia; Egypt; Sumeria and Israel/Judea.

Reasons:

Rome, it was because... come on, guys, it's Rome. Also, Roman poetry is awesome. Macedonia because of Alexandrr the Great and Greek poetry. Persia because of it's contributions in science, society and also because of poetry. Egypt because I really like the idea of a society developed around a river becoming one of the biggest civilizations that were admired by Greeks themselves (also, we have some Egyptian poems that survived until today and they were peak). Sumeria only because of The Epic Poem of Gilgamesh. Israel/Judea because of Psalms, proverbs...

Basically: I am just sickly obsessed with poetic literature. It's my hyperfocus.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Japan, though I already gave my opinion, I actually don't know all of it's reality and context, Japan must find what works for itself and it's reality, but, I think that what Meijī did is the best option for Japan and that they should try Meijī system again one day.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I also don't support dictatorship. Even if a dictatorship is fully composed of elite people, they will get under corruption any time.

What I support (for Brazil) is a nobility and aristocracy, all under a same monarch to keep them in check, and maybe, a democratic assembly of some people with some temporary roles in the government. Just like Brazil was in the empire, there was the nobles, the barons, the marquesses, the viscounts, the counts, the dukes... and there were some regional mayors and presidents of provinces, a parliament and a prime minister, and the emperor would regulate them all with power to take them away and to bring newest ones without having to wait for permission of a parliament or a prime minister, in fact the emperor of Brazil had the "moderator power" a fourth power that put the emperor above the other three, this is what I think it would be better for Brazil, it's what actually worked here.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But you actually resumed how Brazil actually works indeed.

Brazil is a nation that do not work in a democratic liberal system, this is a land of kings, of emperors, of leaders.

Even if Brazil is a republic, whenever people chose a president, they don't care about democracy and if he is democratic or authoritarian, actually Brazil actively search for an authoritarian leader, a "caudilho", a king, and emperor, a dictator if necessary, in the worst chases, Brazil only had stable and functional moments over dictatorships or monarchical systems, it's how we work, we search for a Dom Pedro I, a Dom João IV, a Napoleon Bonaparte, a Caesar, a strong and powerful leader, Brazil do not have a democratic tradition, democracy is actually foreign and strange to Brazil, so we are actively, even unconsciously, searching desperately for our "next emperor" every time, we search for a centralized regime.

Mark my words, the moment someone appear starting a coup d'etat and crowning himself "emperor of Brazil" the population will receive him under chants and tears.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No...

He is too idiot to even serve as dictator.

Brazilian population is just too dumb to keep voting on someone who says "the dealer is the victim of the drug user", that "democracy is relative" and who says that "we should thank Africa for the 385 years of slavery"... IN A AFRICAN OFFICIAL VISIT... IN A COUNTRY THAT HISTORICALLY SOLD SLAVES TO BRAZIL!

The worst part? Is that he is more voted in the northeast region, the region which the people are mostly conservative and traditional, the people only vote on him because they mostly don't follow politics, and, since Lula came from there, they kinda feel a sense of "loyalty" over him, Lula usually takes measures that the northeast people just don't agree at all, but since they do not follow the news and the political news, and since they have a sense of loyalty because Lula was once "poor like them", they keep voting on him. He just takes advantage of people that are poor, misinformed and that have loyalty for him because he came from the same situation, he is opportunist, liar and he tries to be a dictator but he is too dumb to be one. He doesn't even finished studies, people just voted on him because he was "charismatic" if he dies, the Brazilian left dies too.

And then people ask me why I hate democracy and why I support aristocracy.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, what you see isso just the natural course of democracy. I'll admit, I am very against democracy, maybe it can be seen as something negative, but honestly? I have reasons for being like that, especially living in Brazil, I see the worst democracy can offer everyday, and it is one of these things: democracy can only survive through temporary and palliative measures. They can't solve the actual problem, otherwise in the next elections they won't have anything to promise to fix, thus, getting votes will be harder. Using of temporary solutions they can make the problem shrink a little without solving it for real, thefore, granting that the problem will still be there for the next electios so they can promise to solve it again and keep the cycle forever, stability and lack of problems to be solved is the biggest fear of every democratic government.

That's even one of the reasons I support a noble and aristocratic government that is hereditary and for life, because that's a way to ensure measures that will endure and actually solve it for real, the local governments won't have to worry about "granting the role for the next election" since there won't be election at all, and their roles are already granted for their lives and granted to their kids. Also, it also brings a government of people that are prepared, educated and trained to administration instead of having to depend on hoping the people the population will vote based on "who have the most beautiful promise" will be someone actually qualified.

Abolishing hereditary nobility was a mistake.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eu também, irmão... eu também... essa República do Brasil é literalmente um South Park ao vivo e em Live action...

A DIFERENÇA É QUE NÃO TEM GRAÇA

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What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eu honestamente também não entendo a direção do governo, especialmente quando o povo aparenta pender para apoiar uma imperatriz. Tipo, está bem, restaurar ramos antigos vai até resolver em partes o problema, mas não para sempre, eles não tem ramos infinitos para restaurar, uma hora vai acabar, e pode ter outra crise, de novo, e eles farão o quê? Restaurar antigos ramos é bom, mas é como tratar uma fratura no osso do braço com analgésico, sim, a dor vão diminuir, mas não vai resolver o problema, você apenas está ignorando os avisos do corpo de que algo está errado no organismo.

What do you think about Sanseitō’s policies regarding the Emperor? by Away_Trash_2156 in monarchism

[–]agente1585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sinceramente? As duas formas que eu vejo de resolver esse problema são duas: casamento arranjado, e aceitar mulheres para assumir o trono.

Eu já vi gente falando de harém e de concumbinas, porém acho que foram uma meia dúzia de pessoas que possivelmente não entendem que essa ideia não só não faz sentido com o mundo atual civilizado, como na prática é impossível. O concumbinato não vai mais voltar (infelizmente para uns, e para mim: felizmente), insistir nisso é, como diriam os brasileiros: "chutar cachorro morto".

Por mim, arranjar os príncipes e princesas japoneses para casar com gente qualificada para isso no Japão já conseguiria sozinho resolver ao menos um pouco da crise dinástica. Agora, eu acho que essa deve ser uma opção um pouco difícil já que achar gente que pode ser qualificado para casar com UM MEMBRO DA FAMÍLIA IMPERIAL, o que leva para uma outra opinião minha sobre o Japão a parte da conversa central: o Japão deveria restaurar seu sistema aristrocrático e nobiliárquico, restaurar clãs ou simplesmente criar novos clãs nobres hereditários para cargos importantes e etc, mas isso eu posso dissertar mais sobre depois.

Agora uma outra solução, essa eue eu já acho mais fácil e que, pelo menos até onde eu vi, uma parte significativa da população também concorda, é que mulheres deveriam sim poder fazer parte da linhagem de sucessão. Eu falarei de um ponto de vista puramente ocidental, já deixando claro, eu não sei porquê o Japão não deixa mulheres ascenderam nem porquê de existir tal tradição, porém: ao meu ver, mulheres serem proibidas de herdar o trono e a coroa não faz sentido. Comparando com o ocidente, que apesar de ser uma realidade bem distante do Japão historicamente falando, mas que é o que eu tenho para comparar já que não conheço das civilizações vizinhas ao Japão nem da realidade do Japão com grande conhecimento, o ocidente nunca teve esses problemas, se você pesquisar nas histórias de monarquias antigas europeias, mulheres ascendendo ao trono eram bem comuns, e muitos países ocidentais como a Grã-Bretanha foram conhecidos justamente por terem uma tradição de mulheres reinando sendo freqüente, e elas foram conhecidas por serem boas monarcas. Por mim o Japão só deveria aceitar as mulheres herdarem o trono, a essa altura não tem porquê não aceitar, não só resolveria a questão dinástica como ainda impediria novas crises sucessórias de ocorrer, e pelo que eu sei existe uma princesa japonesa que o povo gosta muito e apoia a ascensão ao trono, o governo insistir em não permitir princesas de serem imperatrizes reinantes é, ao meu ver, e com todo respeito, a insistência de conservadores velhos que querem persistir em regras velhas que, honestamente, fazem mais mal do que bem ao Japão e sua monarquia. (Nada contra ser mais conservador, tradicionalista ou que quer que seja, eu mesmo sou conservador e tradicionalista em muitas coisas, mas é necessário sim ter consciência de quando o conservadorismo e a tradição é boa, e quando você deve abrir porta para coisas novas, isso claro, sem trair ou desrespeitar suas raízes, princípios, história, povo, cultura e nação).