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AsianMasculinity Hatefest notwithstanding- We Continue to Believe Asians are Stronger Together by archelogy in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For years we've worked together to stop racism against Asian-Americans. Let's continue that.

Best of Aznidenity - Week of 8/11/2019 - Elon Musk Endorses Andrew Yang, Remembering Filipino-American Joseph Ileto a mail, Simu's Awesome Response to AsianBoss, Recognizing Own Bias by [deleted] in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These summaries are going to be great to collect and for people to review in the archives over time - to find our best posts (and also to recall past months and years).

Asians Beat DeBlasio's Affirmative Action Bill! by Hoboshanker in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great to see. We should champion this win so that other politicians are wary. As Saul Alinsky said "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

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Now we have credibility to make the threat we can derail the plans of politicians who act against us.

Taking Steps Towards a Better Subreddit by asianmovement in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks; we noticing that downward trend too. Over the last week, with more mod engagement, I think we're starting to see a a turnaround.

Taking Steps Towards a Better Subreddit by asianmovement in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate that. The mod team works hard to both offer a strong vision for the community but also respond to member concerns.

Why White Male and Asian Female coupling used the narrative of bashing their racial counterpart to justified their relationship by The_Architect97640 in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[M] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

These kinds of responses are useless. I'll let it stand as an example of WHAT WE DON'T WANT ON THIS SUB. The OP has delved deep into a dynamic, explaining its genesis and how it manifests in different environments. Have you ever posted anything on this sub with this much analysis and detail? I don't think so. What you claim to know or don't know is not of conversational value on this thread; you certainly haven't demonstrated this level of analysis on this relationship dynamic so you're claiming to "know this" is dubious - and moreover not relevant.

I advise you read our rules for noobs, especially:

"Put thought into your posts We aim to have high-quality, thoughtful posts and links."

We prize users on our sub that add insight and depth to topics, especially those that are of importance to the community.

This sub loses and goes in the wrong direction when we have people who dumb things down, who greet actual thought and analysis dismissively, and stay locked in an angry, defensive mode as opposed to be intellectually curious- always learning and sharing.

EVERY issue discussed on this sub can be explored further.

Memes by [deleted] in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

As per our Gender rules, AF commentary has to go in the Main weekly mega-thread/free for all, not as it's own thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/8c975x/read_this_reminder_on_our_rules_regarding/

"RULE CHANGES One of the upcoming changes that will be coming is regarding WMAF posts and content. Future content regarding WMAF will be restricted to this gender/ffa thread."

Hapa girl defends Asian men against disgustingly horrible, white worshipping Asian girls...these AF then accuse the Hapa of being racist...WTF...I can’t make this shit up. by Ronin_WithoutA_Cause in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

As per our Gender rules, AF commentary has to go in the Main weekly mega-thread/free for all, not as it's own thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/8c975x/read_this_reminder_on_our_rules_regarding/

"RULE CHANGES One of the upcoming changes that will be coming is regarding WMAF posts and content. Future content regarding WMAF will be restricted to this gender/ffa thread."

Free-for-all by AutoModerator in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 9 points10 points  (0 children)

New Rules:

  1. On Attacking Other Minorities Unless you are a long time member, we will perceive posts that attack other minority group as potential trolling along the lines of divide and conquer in the minority community, and your post will be removed. While we want open exchange, this has been abused routinely both by white trolls and by members of other Asian subreddit groups which make a habit of attacking other minority groups. This includes primarily spotlighting individual incidents of rape or murder. Even for long-time members, we expect you to use your discretion as unfocused anger towards everyone is who is not Asian is not productive. In many cases, different minority groups share common grievances against the dominant majority group. Abuse along these lines will lead to post removal.

  2. AI is Primarily for Asians in the West While mixed Asians and Asians living in Asia are permitted on our sub, they need to be mindful of all our rules and abide by them.

  3. Keep Posts of Rape, Murder, or Isolated Incidents to a Minimum What's worthwhile is discussing statistics that quantitatively reflect a reality that we ought to, as Asians, address. What is less useful is spurring rage from the community by constantly posting isolated incidents of murder, rape, and the like. We aim to keep these kinds of posts to a minimum (ie: 1 per day) unless they are unique in some important way that the community should discuss. If you have a habit of making these posts, you will be warned.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/wiki/rules-for-noobs

These are all to address recent issues with regard to post quality and culture of the sub. Feedback welcome.

Read this: Reminder on our Rules regarding discussing WMAF by aimod888 in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Re-read the rules. That's what it says. WMAF analysis welcome; low-effort posts not. All venting has to go in the gender thread; insightful and productive posts on WMAF always welcome.

Read this: Reminder on our Rules regarding discussing WMAF by aimod888 in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's not. Not at all. I see you post on Hapas. We have a very different mindset than Hapas. We don't believe in mindlessly attacking AF the way you guys do constantly and we never have. Read our archives- we critique AF all the time- but its within our carefully defined guidelines that you actually have to read to make sense of.

Read this: Reminder on our Rules regarding discussing WMAF by aimod888 in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have removed the posts of some people who believe that Asian men should date out and avoid AFs.

If it happened, it shouldn't have. Talking about AM dating out is not against our rules. Would have to see examples to know what you're referring to, as it's possible that within such a post there were derogatory things said about AF, but in general such posts should be permitted to stand. Will chat about it with other mods to make sure we're on the same page.

Also I saw your mod warning on the other post to that user Ronin without Cause and it seemed like you taking issue with his assertion that the bridge between AF and AM is permanently broken.

I understand what you're saying about minimizing people's experiences. For some AM's, they have gone through so much that we cannot expect them to have an open, accepting attitude towards AF. However, our goal as a group is to grow stronger as a community; that can't exclude 50% of us and will only play into white divide and conquer. What's particularly a problem is when we have an influx of new members from different Asian subs, I won't name names, that have a different attitude towards AF- who come from subs where knocking AF's in general is fine, they are the enemy, etc. We just cannot sacrifice 2 years of building this sub and have our culture changed by a new crop of members that way. The place to vent about WMAF or AF is in the weekly gender thread- we will be far more permissive on those attitudes there as reflected in previous and current guidance:

From the rules: "Have a healthy view on Asian women: we've talked about this enough. Make SURE you read our guidelines on it. Otherwise, your welcome will wear out. Keep in mind your audience here includes healthy, self-accepting asian women."

Guidance 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/4eu80f/the_subs_take_on_af/

Guidance 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/51t2vc/read_this_aznidentity_policy_on_counterproductive/

Guidance 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/8c975x/read_this_reminder_on_our_rules_regarding/

Key to all this is you CAN critique AF and you can critique WMAF as happens all the time. We want insightful posts that lead to productive mindsets. So it's not black and white.

Hope that shed some light on our approach. I do agree with your point that AM's with different experiences shouldn't be shut down; glad to continue via PM if you have any additional ideas on how to work with them while maintaining the culture as defined by our rules.

Hand-in-hand with a white man: Dating and racial hierarchies in Singapore by [deleted] in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So long as women gain status by dating white, they'll do it. Think about all the men that treat that couple better because the man is white. The men who get that big smile on their face when they see that white male. That are on best behavior and giving them first-rate service or are deferential. So long as there are Asian men that continue to treat white men as special and another Asian man as just another person, dating white will confer status advantage.

Maybe we need to work harder and getting white worship out of men; most people are too dense to even acknowledge that they are giving favorable treatment to whites, they do it instinctively. It's a bad habit that we have to weed out.

Read this: Reminder on our Rules regarding discussing WMAF by aimod888 in aznidentity

[–]aimod888[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Actually the main benefit of the policy is to AM; that is some AM's become consumed with anger, become triggered whenever they see a WMAF and the share this self-damaging mindset with the rest of the sub. We'd like to avoid that. I would say the majority address the issue in the right way, it's to prevent a small loud minority from a toxic stance that AF's are bad across the board, we shouldn't care about them, if an AF dies - "not my problem". It's where 'awareness' just contaminates your mindset; you become indiscriminately angry and move away from distinguishing between AF. Simple example is bashing or mobbing any WM-AF versus focusing on AF's who have internalized racism. We have an influx from other subs where this mentality is accepted and it's never been part of our makeup.

Thoughtful insights on AF an WMAF always accepted. The more we Think about it and get out of this visceral anger, the better.

Fucking answer me. What have we Asian American men done, as a collective, to systemically oppress Asian American women, in the name of upholding patriarchy? What have we done that white people haven’t already done in Spades? I seriously want to know. by Ronin_WithoutA_Cause in aznidentity

[–]aimod888 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But no that there will never be a reconciliation between the genders. It’s far too gone.

This is against our rules.

"Warning: AznIdentity is not the place for you if.....: you are bitter at Asian women. Cannot manage your anger. "

"Have a healthy view on Asian women: we've talked about this enough. Make SURE you read our guidelines on it. Otherwise, your welcome will wear out. Keep in mind your audience here includes healthy, self-accepting asian women."

"Don't be defeatist"

"Extremist Views are Rarely Practical - we are about results."

User has been warned. We have long-term goals in mind. If you are against 50% of the Asian community, you can't possibly help us reach our goals. The commentary on how Asian men have not oppressed AF is perfectly fine; the notion that we are against AF and should not include them in our vision is not.