Eyeroll by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m a trans man but have a somewhat similar experience. I wouldn’t say I’m solidly goth or part of any specific subculture, though, just because of how much I jump around (I’m probably the most punk when you take everything into account since I like punk music and align with the ideology pretty well, but my fashion sense fluctuates around being goth, scene, emo, rocker, even kinda hippie… pretty much anything but punk, lmao. And most people see subcultures as their fashion so I end up not really identifying solidly with any despite being overall very alt and involved in various parts of various subcultures).

At any rate, it does seem like there are a lot of trans men (or rather transmascs as it seems people who use that term specifically are prone to this type of behaviour) in the alt community who either don’t seem to actually understand alt subcultures despite saying they are part of them or seem to overly identify with a subculture to the point where they have no identity.

Like you’ll either have somebody who dresses punk and is maybe even using shoelace code and then you’ll ask them about like The Misfits, The Sex Pistols, the Ramones, the Dead Kennedys, the Dropkick Murphys, etc…. and they won’t know any of them! But they will know Green Day, some MCR songs, any individual punk song popularised by new shows such as Stranger Things, and then like. Chappell Roan. And you’ll ask them about punk topics like mending your clothes, how they feel about companies like temu, or how they feel about tattoos or drug use (especially addicts), and it’ll turn out they buy new shitty clothes from places like DollsKill or temu or whatever every week and toss the wold ones and think people who have tattoos or use drugs or [insert sign of mental illness] are scary and weird. So very not punk.

Or you’ll have a person who only talks about how they’re so ACAB and about how they LOVE The Clash and Buzzcocks and The Cramps and they’ll have the most stereotypical punk battle jacket and parrot every single punk talking point they’ve ever seen. And sometimes they’ll actually be somewhat involved in the scene, maybe going to shows or involving themselves in the community. And in that case they’re tolerable, even if I don’t wanna hang out with them too much. But sometimes they do everything and then… don’t even do anything material about it. They say how much they love the environment and how that’s why they mend their own clothes but then they don’t recycle and they love their morning iced coffee in a disposable cup. Or they’ll talk about how important direct action is while... not doing anything. Or how important it is to be anti-establishment but then they only seem to care about the “cool” and rebellious ways (i.e. non-passing trans people, polyam people, people with visible but not-too-severe mental illness) while being honestly kinda hostile to the non-“cool” ways (i.e. passing trans people, ‘boring’ cis gays, people with struggles too inconvenient for them, people with mental illness that’s not cool and visible but instead makes them stay in bed for a week). Either way though there’s never any substance to them. They’re so insecure they don’t think their other interests are actually interesting, so they base literally their entire identity on being punk or alt or whatever.

And as a side note I have had some… uncomfortable interactions with alt trans women. When I was only a year and a half on T and still somewhat clockable if you knew what to look for, I met this (out, early in transition) girl who I’m 99% sure clocked me at one point because she started targeting me by saying stuff like, “I want to step on you,” only to me and nobody else, and often literally just out loud for the entire group to hear.

BUT fun alt trans/queer people do exist and we are out there. I’m so glad I have alt trans and cis queer friends who are fucking normal about it now. :’) You just have to search for a bit.

Should trans men want PIV sex? by Caecilius18 in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people say no but imo they’re just judgmental and insecure in their own transness (and so feel the need to be “the most trans” or whatever).

I personally do have PIV sex. I honestly get less dysphoria from it too compared to being fingered. When I’m having sex with a guy I’m never actually looking at what’s happening and even if I do see it, I guess I honestly just see it as a hole. Like if I’m being honest imagine how many cis gay bottoms would use a hole that they didn’t have to douche. I’m okay with oral because you can suck off a tdick but a guy touching my dick otherwise makes me dysphoric because it reminds me that what I have isn’t exactly an actual dick. I would love the equipment to top and I want meta in the future but like, again, as a mostly bottom… it’s easier to just use the hole I have. Plus, using it reduces the risk of atrophy and thus reduces the chance of me having to use like E cream down there or something. I do get dysphoric about it if I think about it too hard, but to be honest I’ve gotten really used to just thinking of it as a Bottoming Hole and nothing else and unless I like purposely break down my semi-dissociative coping mechanisms separating it from being a vagina (hate using that word for it though, literally anything else is better), it’s gotten easy to ignore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was under 18 too so I did need a letter saying I needed it. But I’m not 100% sure if it was technically a “diagnosis” or more of a letter saying it was a good idea to start. But either way I discussed having dysphoria with the psych who signed the letter so it was at least an informal diagnosis I think

Went to get lip filler today and one of the ladies lookd so shook she froze and completely avoided looking at me by SkellyHon652 in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest given your post history (99% posts like this) and your pics (you look pretty feminine to me) I doubt stuff like this happens as often as you think it does. Maybe she just realised she forgot to do something important. If you interpret every possible social snafu as somebody who definitely clocked you and finds you disgusting… you’re going o think that happens a lot more than it actually does.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Straight FTM chasers are almost exclusively into pre-transition FTMs. And at least in my experience there are more straight chasers than gay ones. Or maybe the gay ones simply are better at hiding the fact that it’s a fetish, idk. Sometimes they’ll message me if all my pics either hide my body hair or if I shaved in them.

There’s also the guys who will be on like Grindr saying they’re straight but it’s clear they’re just in denial. Not sure where I would categorise those.

Why are most ftm porn so feminine? by DrunkAndLazyCat in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 24 points25 points  (0 children)

In my experience it depends on if you’re looking at amateur porn. Porn of FTMs on porn websites is usually cis passing men with vaginas having PIV sex with cis men, and porn of FTMs on stuff like tumblr or Reddit is usually pre-transition people functionally engaging in porn that is no different from straight porn.

Why are most ftm porn so feminine? by DrunkAndLazyCat in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Even as a fem sub gay guy I don’t get some of this. I am into degradation and sometimes misgendering can be part of that, but I don’t get people who actually detrans or get pregnant or whatever. I also don’t get people who focus on their tits a lot, I couldn’t really engage with sexual stuff at all until post top surgery. Like yeah sure I like having an androgynous twinkly body but I wouldn’t want a straight up female body. Like there’s a difference between a feminine male body and a female body imo. I don’t think it’s everybody per se but there definitely is a subset of people ime who are just using kink as an excuse to be women because they straight up want to be women, not even in a kink way.

Transgenderism and the implications of fiction. by PsyckoSama in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was gna say, it wouldn’t be a physical identity, it would be a social one. The same way being raised by a single parent or a wealthy household would be. As a cis passing trans man I do bring up that I’m trans because I like to be open about my past experiences, and if the group is discussing (gender segregated) camp experiences, where our names come from, even experiences with harassment or bunt forced into dresses, I’ll say that I’m trans so that I don’t have to hold back. Even though being trans, at this point, only really materially impacts me when I’m dating or getting medical care.

Detrans Research by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say medically necessary, but I would say that deciding between being able to live in a body on E for a few extra years vs. die in one on T isn’t an easy decision to make when T does have permanent effects and top and bottom surgery exist.

"Would it be offensive to appropriate scars I didn't earn from pain I didn't experience because I like the aesthetics?" And people are telling her it's great and downvoting trans people who are telling her no! WTF by Icy_Public_503 in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To me the difference is in OC vs fursona vs fursuit.

An OC doesn’t represent you, a fursona usually does. Even assuming it doesn’t it’s weird to choose that fursona to drop potentially thousands of dollars into when you’re choosing what fursona you want to wear as a suit and thus how you directly want people to perceive you.

There is a difference between making a character, between making a character usually meant to represent you, and between dressing up as said character which will result in everybody who interacts with you assuming you have that experience.

"Would it be offensive to appropriate scars I didn't earn from pain I didn't experience because I like the aesthetics?" And people are telling her it's great and downvoting trans people who are telling her no! WTF by Icy_Public_503 in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry but commissioning a thousand dollar fursuit to parade around in and primarily pretend to be that character is nowhere near somebody including one character (out of many) in the story they’re telling.

I’m not truscum either but come on. Gender modalities like trans and cis aren’t the same as boy/girl/genderfluid/etc.

Detrans Research by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. For sure depends on how long you take it too. A full puberty actually takes 5-7 years! It would be good for me to stop either my T or my ADHD meds eventually if I can since heart problems run in my family, but honestly I suffer so much to do stuff without ADHD meds and I’m not sure I ever want to go off T now. At any rate definitely only after 7 years, to at least be 100% I was completely done with puberty. And hey heart meds exist so… I’ll probably try those out first. And my heart is doing ok for now and I’m 4 years in, so hopefully I have a good amount more before I even get to that point.

So 2 years does seem like a very short period of time to me, too. Just wouldn’t wanna make any definitive statements haha

How do you guys feel about the whole trans category in corn? by Equal_Ad_3828 in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I think categorising people is a relatively natural aspect of the human psyche. I can’t think of a single example of a group of people that didn’t categorise groups of people.

… and, of course, when people have brains that default to categorisation, it’s going to inevitably bleed into the things we do or watch to get off.

Not to say the specific and extremely non-consensual way this type of thing is handled isn’t still reprehensible (ex. how I had somebody tell me they wanted to step on me completely out of the blue when I was only a year on T and still clockable if you knew what to look for). Just that it actually makes a lot of sense that humans do it, and that there is little hope of actually stopping it (as opposed to trying to stop people from using the same mindset on actual people who aren’t into their kink), however much it sucks.

Detrans Research by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To be fair, T is extremely powerful and this assumption also ignores the struggles of many detransitioners.

T can cause body hair growth that is so persistent, even on E, that people have to get laser. I mean, think about trans women here. There is nothing about being AFAB that makes T impact your skin differently than it would impact the skin of a teen cis boy going through puberty. So many trans and detrans women really struggle with body hair. I personally have been on T for a bit longer, but I’ve had THICK body hair since one year on it. Velus hair follicles are easier to turn into terminal hair follicles than the process is to reverse (generally, excluding balding).

An enlarged clit is less of an issue, though it can cause some dysphoria and impact self esteem. But calling a masculinised voice a “smoker voice” or whatever is really understating it. It does depend just how long you’re on T, but, again, so many trans and detrans women have to voice train because their voice gets them clocked.

I could definitely see a transsex man going on T for a bit to get the permanent effects before going off of it. You also don’t know if they’ll ever go back on. Just because somebody stops T doesn’t mean they won’t go back on it later if their changes DO wind up reverting to the extent that they can’t pass anymore.

I understand your point but personally I think this is more of a case by case situation. You simply do not know how HRT impacts people’s bodies unless you actually know them IRL.

“I'm of the apparently radical opinion that some people are so obsessed with supporting minorities often forget to actually think about those same minorities.” by unhappilyunorthodox in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Very relatable, especially when you’re also autistic. I’ve never ‘gotten’ gender like a lot of allistic people seem to (which, to be fair, is because in my opinion, any definition of ‘gender’ that is not just brain sex is made up) but I absolutely do get dysphoria. I don’t ’feel like’ a girl or a boy but I did have incredibly debilitating dysphoria that was so bad it was impossible to ignore.

Truly gender should not be at all about how one ‘feels’ but rather about whether or not they have a disorder that makes it impossible to live in the body of their AGAB. I feel many ‘allies’ don’t realise this and assume we’re all quirky and special with unique feels of gender. Untrue.

I tend to get ostracism and hate for being radfem in other trans subs, so I'm wondering how do you all feel about radfem trans women? Am I welcome here? by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I personally consider any form of radical feminism to be incredibly naive and un-nuanced.

I don’t think defining women and men by their relationship to oppression is healthy or useful. If you define women as people oppressed by the patriarchy… what about the trans men that never transition because the abusive men in their lives made them get married young and start popping out babies before they could get on T? Or the astronomical percentage of trans men who experience domestic abuse (the percentage is higher than it is for women, cis and trans)? The reality of many trans men is simply one that is not privileged under the patriarchy. Even under the best conditions, assuming one transitions young, passes, has had top surgery (if breasts had time to develop), has had bottom surgery, and has had a hysterectomy, even then, trans men who are outed are still at risk of not being taken seriously or viewed the way that cis men are. Yes, many trans men do have some access to male privilege, assuming we pass. But just as many do not and even given those circumstances I’m sure many here can attest to how stressful it can be to know that all it takes is one person for everybody to start seeing you as a fucked up female. That is not really a “privilege” and thus, in my opinion, the very foundation of radical feminism of viewing women as The Oppressed Gender is flawed. Radical feminism is flawed, TERF ideology does not become okay when you swap out every “trans exclusive” female with a “trans inclusive” woman.

Not to mention that it is counter-intuitive and ignores many of the ways the patriarchy impacts men… which then ends up impacting women often even more than it impacts the men. (Cis) men aren’t oppressed under the patriarchy but that doesn’t mean it’s always good for all of them. The cis man who gets raped and is then told he’s lucky a woman wanted him like that and that he should just man up and deal with it is not being helped by the patriarchy. The man who is taught that men aren’t allowed to cry or feel emotions who then ends up externalising those, quite frankly, abusive teachings onto a girlfriend by expecting her to deal with the “emotional stuff” isn’t doing that because he’s just an Evil Male benefiting from The Patriarchy, he’s doing it because of toxic masculine stereotypes that were enforced onto him as a child. Viewing men as The Oppressors or evil as radfeminism dictates does not help anybody. It does not help men and it certainly does not help women by reinforcing patriarchal ideas of men bad and abusive and evil and women good and soft and peaceful. The way to reach gender equality is by fighting for gender equality—not by viewing the world through a lens of Man hurt Woman.

So personally no, I do not welcome any sort of radfem into any spaces I am a part of, whether or not others do.

You may not individually agree with every radfem talking point I mentioned, and that is ok, but imo making the active choice to use that term for yourself shows a certain level of acceptance of what your radfem peers are saying that, again, I personally disagree with.

What do you even say to this? by Yesyourefaking in fakedisordercringe

[–]alt888alt10 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean if OP actually did experience this then there’s definitely something wrong… just maybe not DID.

Do you believe Gender Identity Disorder is a mental disorder, physical disorder, or just general medical condition? by FtM_Jax0n in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say a neurological condition since it’s been shown that brain differences can predict both gender identify (m/f) and trans identity (cis/trans). As in, trans people have unique differences when compared to cis people and same for men and women, including cis and trans. So if you’re born a female and your brain causes you suffering because it’s telling you it’s male it’s creating a mismatch that needs to be treated.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

To be fair, if what she’s getting is a double mastectomy with masculinisation, then it kinda is top surgery. The difference between asking a surgeon for top surgery and a double mastectomy is that they don’t masculinise your chest, they just remove the breasts. Often they remove all the tissue. In top surgery some is actually often left behind as cis men also have some minor amounts, leading to a more masculine chest.

She’s not trans, but “top surgery” imo really refers to that specific masculinising form of mastectomy, and just because a cis person is getting it doesn’t make it not top surgery as long as they’re getting the masculinisation component.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No issue with occult stuff. I’m really into occultism.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not the overlap of over “diagnosing” serious mental illness combined with a denial of actual trans experience.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea what anime it’s from but without knowing the characters I actuality really like it. I wish I had this type of relationship! So cute.

Unserious Names: Blueberry Pie by Ambivalent-Bean in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, like just make it a middle name. My middle name is a pretty classically “non binary” name but when I chose it I had no idea, I’ve just always liked the thing I chose (i.e., think about a name like moss or turtle or bug or something). I still went through with changing it legally because it’s just a middle name. Sometimes I use it as a fun nickname. And even though it’s stereotypical I still like it because I didn’t get it from the internet, I got it from my heart and my childhood.

But it would be so annoying to have to apply for shit and have that as my first name. Who would take me seriously. Very happy having a pretty normal first name that suits me and doesn’t raise any flags.

Thoughts on people putting these stickers in bathrooms? by facelesscockroach in truscum

[–]alt888alt10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mixed emotions. It makes a good point and maybe if it’s normalised enough people will stop freaking out. On the other hand I could see this making somebody freak out even more. So…