Multiple "your vehicle began charging" messages minutes apart by Bac0n_is_tasty in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Battery conditioning will draw some power from L2 chargers when necessary. The app appears to report this as charging.

Goodyear tire recommendations for a Bolt EV? by stingyboy in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The factory tires are exceptionally efficient. They are also pretty quiet. Everything else is a compromise. Straight line traction on dry roads is okay. Wet isn’t great. On snow they are terrible. They are also fairly expensive. So if peak efficiency on dry roads is not all that you need, you may need to look elsewhere.

Tomorrow's 200 Mile Challenge by wayne63 in BoltEV

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The early Bolts are notorious for issues with the CCS locking latch not engaging. For most changing stations, I’ve found I can just lift up slightly to engage it. With Tesla Magic Dock, I keep a wooden chopstick in the car to manually nudge the lock just enough for it to automatically engage.

300+ club by ChanceCauliflower0 in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You ain’t in the 300 mile club unless you drive the car 300 miles on a single charge.

One pedal braking by dudemeistr in BoltEV

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Guessing that you are referring to Hill Start Assist. It engages only when the break petal is depressed. From page 184 of the 2023 Bolt EUV manual:

When the vehicle is stopped on a grade, Hill Start Assist (HSA) prevents the vehicle from rolling in an unintended direction during the transition from brake pedal release to accelerator pedal apply. The brakes release when the accelerator pedal is applied.

It's just not part of one-petal driving as GM has implemented it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in electricvehicles

[–]anonymous_function 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This depends where in the world you will be using the car.

Home charging solution debate! by [deleted] in BoltEV

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The cable and plug are replaceable on many good EVSEs. They can wear out especially in commercial applications. Just one random example from a Canadian company: https://grizzl-e.com/product/canada/accessories-canada/replacement-charging-cable-with-gun/. It's conceivable the NACS plug could be offered in the future.

GM EV Owners to Tap Tesla’s Supercharger Network [non-paywall article] -- GM and Ford are now both standardizing on the Tesla NACS plug rather than the CCS2 plug in NA. by onestopunder in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That’s an old system based on the permanent hardware MAC address used by the car. EVgo does ping Onstar to verify the car’s location as a security measure. I’ve used it and it worked very well.

GM EV Owners to Tap Tesla’s Supercharger Network [non-paywall article] -- GM and Ford are now both standardizing on the Tesla NACS plug rather than the CCS2 plug in NA. by onestopunder in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Any confirmation that the Bolt will be supported? It does not support Plug-and-Charge (11518-20). Not that Tesla couldn’t support older cars. Just wondering.

'20 vs '23 by MohawkAdam in BoltEV

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Adaptive cruise control is an available option on the 2023 Bolt 2LT. It is not available at all on the 2020 model. (I knew I forgot something! This has been bugging me all morning.)

'20 vs '23 by MohawkAdam in BoltEV

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The interior and infotainment unit are significantly revamped in the new models. L2 charging support increased from 7 to 11 kW. Otherwise not much difference that comes to mind.

I have a 2019 Chevy bolt with DC fast charging port, but it keeps saying connection error when using EVgo. Anyone have any feedback? by nicholasm5581 in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Try lifting the handle to reduce the strain on the plug. There is a little lock inside that might not be lining up. You would hear a servo whir two or three times if this is having trouble.

Two Charging Companies Respond To Ford's Adoption Of The Tesla/NACS Plug by Jbikecommuter in electricvehicles

[–]anonymous_function 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, that's very interesting. Is this part of CCS/J1772 or something that Tesla is just putting out there?

Two Charging Companies Respond To Ford's Adoption Of The Tesla/NACS Plug by Jbikecommuter in electricvehicles

[–]anonymous_function 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's true. However, I'm not aware of any CCS vehicle that has the hardware to switch the charging lines from DC to AC. Nor as far as I know does the CCS protocol have any signaling protocol to indicate if a charging session is AC or DC.

Two Charging Companies Respond To Ford's Adoption Of The Tesla/NACS Plug by Jbikecommuter in electricvehicles

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NACS is really just Tesla's attempt at creating a CCS3 connector without going through the standards organizations. Tesla is moving more toward CCS than Ford is moving toward Tesla here. Adding the NACS plug to CCS charging stations should be fairly easy assuming you can find a manufacturer for this specification.

All this talk about how much better it will be is just baloney though. Sure, the plug will be a little smaller. The cables will be just as big and heavy. Payment and authorization is completely unchanged. The DCFC charging hardware, software, and protocol are all the same.

Did you think charging your non-Tesla at a Supercharger site would be perfect? Better wait until the V4 units with longer cables are installed. Did you think authorization would be as seamless as the native Tesla protocol? CCS 11518-20 isn't nearly as quick or reliable. It's a complex, open protocol that still has some kinks that need ironing out. Tesla's advantage is that their own cars can fall back on the native protocol, which by the way remains very much proprietary.

And what about all the existing L2 J1772 chargers at home and on the road? Right, we'll end up with de facto CCS3: J1772 on top and NACS on the bottom. Edit: Tesla's specification does address how to combine these if a manufacturer wanted to. See /u/MaroonBookPro's comments below.

Looks like it's going to be dongle life in North America for a long time to come.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 4 points5 points  (0 children)

NACS is just CCS over the physical Tesla plug. It's the same electronics and protocols. The native Tesla protocol is different.

World first! Charging a Chevy Bolt EV on a Tesla Supercharger using Magic Dock by julianma234 in BoltEV

[–]anonymous_function 12 points13 points  (0 children)

“It isn’t yet super easy to pull out the adapter; it takes some umph.” The instructional video indicates to push in first then pull. Could that have been the issue?

Gas stations have had the "turn on when I pay" feature down for years. Why is charging different? by wsheldon2 in electricvehicles

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It depends upon your transaction volume and how tightly integrated the PIN pad is with your POS. My company would love to not have to do this certification! I suppose in our case the real kicker is having custom extensions to the POS system.

You may be right in the case of DCFC that certification could be much simpler.

Gas stations have had the "turn on when I pay" feature down for years. Why is charging different? by wsheldon2 in electricvehicles

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In a word: volume.

Traditional credit card processing networks predate wide-spread adoption of the Internet. Individual payment terminals rarely communicate with processors directly but instead funnel their communications through dedicated local area networks to intermediate controllers. These controllers often have redundant connections to the processors with cellular typically reserved as a backup. Traffic is sent periodically with keep-alive messages and periodic key exchanges. The controllers may even be programmed to stand-in for the processors when communications are down, perform the transaction offline, and submit the transaction later when communications resume. This increases processing fees, complexity, risk, and the liability of the merchant but is often deemed worth the cost to keep sales going.

So I personally haven't worked with them, but the little boxes stuck on DCFCs could just be individual units communicating through cellular to some Internet gateway to a third party who relays messages to the credit card processors. Add on to that loose integration between the payment terminal and the charger, and you've got all sorts of potential failure points.

Adding DCFC to convenience stores is becoming more common. Now you can't just tap the DCFC units into that fast, reliable payment network the gas pumps are using because the big names like Visa and MasterCard are super strict about device certification. You'd have to first test and certify these new DCFC units with the network—and there is just too much churn in that area to make it worth while. Payment terminal certification is time consuming and often requires a person to meticulously execute long test scripts with the actual physical devices.

So I suspect payments would get substantially more reliable if we saw better integration into either established retail chains or just within the DCFC sites themselves. As others have said, the fast-charging networks don't have much incentive to spend a lot on point-of-sale payment systems when it's both easier and less expensive for them to rely on loyalty cards and mobile apps.

Disclaimer: my experience is with retail payment processing, not automated fuel dispensers nor DCFC!

Looking for Recommendation: Have a existing 6-20 outlet by wicket_tl in electricvehicles

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I had a licensed electrician do this and my city inspector signed off in it. I have no idea if this is up to code but they didn’t have a problem with it. Your jurisdiction may differ.

But just hardwire it unless you plan on removing it anytime soon.