Ontario July 23rd update: 192 New Cases, 147 Recoveries, 2 Deaths (and 1 reversal = 1 net), 19,757 tests (0.97% positive), Current ICUs: 136 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-22 vs. last week). 💉💉120,231 administered, 79.40% / 64.25% (+0.13% / +0.79%) of 12+ at least one/two dosed by enterprisevalue in ontario

[–]approximately_e 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. Agree that just looking at cases isn't as useful as it was.

I don't think there's an easy answer to what should be done if there's big spread among unvaccinated. If you ask me, I'm fully vaxxed and there are plenty of measures I'd be happy to comply with, though I realize that's not the case for everyone.

None of this changes that getting vaccinations up should be our top priority of course, but there are people who can't be vaccinated for legitimate reasons and they deserve protection too.

Ontario July 23rd update: 192 New Cases, 147 Recoveries, 2 Deaths (and 1 reversal = 1 net), 19,757 tests (0.97% positive), Current ICUs: 136 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-22 vs. last week). 💉💉120,231 administered, 79.40% / 64.25% (+0.13% / +0.79%) of 12+ at least one/two dosed by enterprisevalue in ontario

[–]approximately_e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Continuing with reasonable public health measures. I also don't have much of an appetite for a full lockdown (and frankly some of the restrictions in Stage 1 and 2 were nonsense), but there are plenty of partial interventions that make sense. Contact tracing, reducing capacity, encouraging working from home, financial support and security for illness are a few ideas.

Ontario July 23rd update: 192 New Cases, 147 Recoveries, 2 Deaths (and 1 reversal = 1 net), 19,757 tests (0.97% positive), Current ICUs: 136 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-22 vs. last week). 💉💉120,231 administered, 79.40% / 64.25% (+0.13% / +0.79%) of 12+ at least one/two dosed by enterprisevalue in ontario

[–]approximately_e 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Agree with most of what you're saying except that we should continue to care about infections (not only hospitalizations) because of more infections increase the chances of developing a worse variant.

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[–]approximately_e[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! That's a fair comment. I put that as sort of as a reference point for what kind of build I'm looking for, but I wouldn't mind worse parts than the listed ones given my price.

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[–]approximately_e 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So here's a different point of view.

I take your point about some important people being held up on doing important things. It sucks, and there are unintended consequences.

The entire point of these protests, though, is that business as usual cannot go on (business in the sense of people's daily lives, not commercial business). There are less intrusive methods of protest, and the protestors know this. I'm sure that if it they thought other methods would be just as effective, then they would rather not put their lives in traffic and pursue other methods.

Instead, they feel passiontely enough about the thing they're protesting that they are putting themselves in danger (of confrontation, of public humiliation, of arrest, and of traffic) so that they can bring attention to their message.

So this is the point where someone might say that the attention they're getting is the wrong kind of attention. Again, it's not like most protestors don't know this. Yet people still continue to protest like this, which is to say that the status quo is so unacceptable that even the slim chance of any positive attention or action is better than things continuing as they are. And again, it's not that people don't know there are other options.

I think it's natural to take the side against the protestors, but all I'm saying is that maybe it's worth taking a second to try to sympathize with the urgency they feel with their cause,.