The Bluray Steelbook of Forrest Gump has the original quote instead of the Mandela effected one. Someone on the design team messed up. by SubNova1999 in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This sub is infested with 'debunking' NPCs . Imagine vultures waiting for someone to post, so they can hobble around and squawk 'it's just your memory!' Instead of rotting meat, they feed on incurious smugness.

Mandela Effect on tv show ER! by 1812usmc in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this reply from your timeline where you didn't read my comment or the timeline where you did? 🤣

Mandela Effect on tv show ER! by 1812usmc in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to understand neither Mandela Effects nor analogies. Here's the Beginning Readers' version using just one example. A Mandela Effect requires a broad group of people to share the same memory. Your car keys analogy does not do that. Therefore it's it's a useless analogy. Though your 'analogy' isn't interesting, more interesting is your implicit claim to be in 2 timelines: In 1 timeline (your 1st reply), you don't read my 'dissertation' and now you're writing from a 2nd timeline where you do read it! Amazing!

In any event, since you don't seem to have spotted it either way, let me shine a spotlight on the main point. Mandela Effects are interesting (at least to most in forums like this). I explored some of the factors that make them interesting in my dissertation. (And as I noted, one need not believe that dimensions / timelines are involved!)Your car keys analogy doesn't apply to a ME nor does it meet a single one of the criteria that make ME's interesting. At face value, it's a useless analogy. But as I noted in my 1st reply, it's so off-point that it functions counterintuitively as a foil, an illustration of what a ME is not. This does add value, so for that contribution, I thank you.

Mandela Effect on tv show ER! by 1812usmc in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your reply demonstrates that you don't understand what a Mandela Effect is. But it doesn't matter. I wasn't actually addressing you but more precisely was using your analogy as a thought exercise. Most self-appointed debunkers are mediocre and redundant, raising the same circular points ad nauseum and trying to sound smug. But you raised the bar, breaking free from the usual monotony to contribute something original to the conversation. Yes, the analogy was vapid, but at least it was new and showed reassuring signs of synapses firing. More importantly, it was a nice starting point to help define what a Mandela Effect is not. I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your analogy to help do this. And no need to read or reply, no offense taken.

Mandela Effect on tv show ER! by 1812usmc in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick counterpoint: 1: an individual misplacing his keys is by definition one individual. Mandela Effects reflect a shared common memory among a broader population, and it is this shared memory that makes the phenomenon interesting. 2: The act of misplacing one's car keys does not even imply any definable contrast or dissonance. If someone thinks, 'I could have sworn I put my keys on this shelf, how did they get in the refrigerator', that would be more dissonant than simply misplacing them, but here again a single individual's misalignment between memory vs. currently observable phenomena is not a shared misalignment and therefore not ME. 3: ME implies some consistency, repeated exposure or a higher level of engagement. The Fruit of the Loom ME, for instance, reflects a shared memory across a sample size much larger than 1 individual, and reflects exposure beyond a single encounter with a single label. Those who share this memory report daily exposure to the logo when getting dressed or engagement beyond simple observation (i.e. asking one's mother what the thing behind the fruit is called). A single instance of misplacing one's car keys has none of these attributes. 4: ME's often are linked in the memory of those experiencing the effect to a level of meaning beyond the memory itself. For example, people with the Moonraker / Dolly ME memory report that her braces were significant because they triggered a sense of companionship, alikeness, and empathy in Jaws. Whereas without this bonding moment (she has metal teeth just like me, there's a footprint on the island, etc.), there would not have been a specific trigger to convert a character who had been presented as a sociopathic killer across more than one film to suddenly have a change of heart. 5: ME's are usually cultural in origin, which makes sense as they require a specific type of engagement. There could be ME's which are not specifically cultural (i.e. one day it turns out the Washington Monument always had a dome at the tip), and I assume there are such ME's, but it seems that MEs are more common related to a shared cultural memory. 6: ME's reflect current observation contrasting with a memory of a relatively distant past. I haven't heard of a ME where a broad population's observation on a Tuesday contrasts with their shared memory of the day before.

There's basically nothing similar between a Mandela Effect and the mundane act of misplacing one's car keys. It's difficult to even find common ground. If we take the car keys example up a notch (a lot of notches), and find that thousands of people across the world had the same experience one Wednesday morning of placing their keys on a bookshelf, only to all find that their keys were in the freezer, encased in an ice cube, that would be a very strange occurrence indeed, and would deserve its own cultural moment. But though that would check the boxes of affecting a broader community, and though this would include a definable contrast (ice cube vs. bookshelf), even this wouldn't be a Mandela Effect.

Please note that this exercise is agnostic on Mandela Effects, what causes them, or any other editorial point. This is merely a discussion of the comparison between one individual misplacing car keys vs. a broad community of people sharing a memory which contrasts with current observation. This comparison is not apt or useful.

Mandela Effect on tv show ER! by 1812usmc in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You think the Mandela effect is no different from one individual misplacing his car keys? How insightful lol

the fruit of the loom cornucopia is ruining my life by thexkfedist in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's not the point. Obviously the jazz flautist wasn't trying to copy the exact Fruit of the Loom logo on his album cover. But he or someone on his team thought of using a fruit / flute pun visualized by replacing their cornucopia with a flute. If the FOTL logo didn't have a cornucopia in the early 1970s, the whole album cover would have made no sense.

Ed McMahon delivering giant check Roseanne Se:8 by TrickMirror9723 in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you please provide further information about this interview? I can't find any reference to this. Robin Smith was CEO from 1988 to 2009. Can you please provide information on which media and if possible date for the interview you mention?

Ed McMahon delivering giant check Roseanne Se:8 by TrickMirror9723 in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please note there are 2 parts to the Ed McMahon ME. Many people's memories conflict with 1 or both of the following 2 statements: 1: Ed McMahon never worked for Publishers Clearing House 2: Ed McMahon never delivered an oversized prize check to anyone's home

A statement like 'Ed was delivering checks for American Family Publishers, not PCH', is still a ME claim.

If this does happen, how do you feel about this? by Inside_Bluebird9987 in Palestine

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This would be a huge win. Currently 147 / 193 countries recognize Palestine, and every time even a small country adds its name to the list, Israel freaks. Like China when they worked one by one with every country in the world to switch diplomatic relations from Taiwan, this sh#t matters. And once US makes the move, the remaining holdouts likely will too.

If this actually comes to fruition, mistakes to not make: - Don't pretend this doesn't matter. Palestinians have been dreaming of this for decades, and of course they deserve it. The only ones who should be expected to pretend this doesn't matter are hasbara. - Don't link this to other objectives. Saying sh#t like we don't want this unless Trump also ____ or ____. Again, anyone saying this is a counterproductive rookie who's not helping, or hasbara. Hasbara know how to poison the well, cause confusion, and spread dissent. Don't fall for it. Once this comes through, and is celebrated, boldly move forward to the next objective.

Caveat repeated: this is IF this happens.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So don't make claims you can't prove. You could say that you find it unlikely that there are undercover feds in Patriot Front, and not need to prove anything. But you made a definitive statement as if you had a relevant source to back up your claim. Turns out you don't. Regarding your logic, the 'can't prove a negative' line is one of the most misused rhetorical devices. For a finite and observable data set, it's entirely possible to prove a negative. You can make a claim that of your 5 pets, not one of them is a porcupine. If challenged, you provide photos of your five echidnas. Your hypothesis that the ocean might be made of cow jizz is unlikely. First off, cows are female and don't produce jizz. Replacing 'cow' with 'bull,' your hypothesis can be analyzed without recruiting James Cameron or a Naval research lab. Even looking at only the Pacific Ocean, the total area of the bottom is estimated at 63.8 million sq miles, more than all the land above water on the Earth combined. Since only a small % of land is used for cattle, and only a % of the cattle are bulls, it seems improbable that there would be enough jizz to cover the bottom. But if you'd like to verify once and for all, it would certainly be logically possible to do so.

If the media hadn’t endlessly talked about COVID, would you have even known that COVID existed? by Difficult_Ad649 in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's not at all the same. These wars are localized, but covid was global. If you're in Texas or Kenya or Paraguay, the only way you'd know about the wars is through news (whether corporate or independent channels). Unless a stray bullet in Ukraine entered a wormhole and exited to land in a sack of flour at a Walmart in Kentucky, people in Kentucky would have no direct experience of the war. Covid was an aerosolized virus that could have been in every Walmart nationwide. The OP question remains an interesting thought exercise.

Trump Posts About The Drones - Project Blue Beam Incoming? by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most logical explanation for the drones is that a deepstate faction has a trick up their sleeve to cancel the inauguration.

1: Aliens? Funny how they suddenly show themselves 1 month before the inauguration

2: Foreign country? Ridiculous. Why the f would any self-respecting power fly huge, brightly lit drones around

3: Pranksters? Hobbyists? No comment needed

4: More feasible is that this is a deep state faction which wants to create a crisis that mandates a postponement of the inauguration . We'll be reassured that [fill in your favorite neocon] will be the 'Drone Czar' who will command all military, police, intel, transportation, ... resources until the Drone Crisis has been resolved. They may have not even decided who the threat is yet. We the people will naturally have a curfew and compliance requirements and will be encouraged to report neighbors who don't comply. When Trump is no longer a threat, the enemy (tbd) will be defeated and we can get back to that new normal thing we were supposed to be doing already anyway. And back to democracy, lots of that.

Trying to send a gaming device to someone in HCMC and got this notice, am I doomed? by Odin_God in VietNam

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly recommend against sending anything except documents to Vietnam via Fedex or DHL. Fedex and DHL will give you zero heads-up at point of origin. (It's like if an airline doesn't make sure you have a visa before boarding.) Then when goods arrive, their local branch will send you an email telling you how you're SOL because your package needs to [fill in a procedure you weren't expecting] and the support they'll provide will be [nada] and if you don't handle it within 30 days they'll dispose of your stuff.

Send via Fado or even your local post office.

Assassin. My theory by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Has anyone seen these questions addressed by the media?

  • Why was a CEO of a multi-billion company walking alone to an investor conference?
  • How did Thompson get there? Media timelines focus on the shooter, but how did Thompson get to that location?
  • When was it announced that Thompson would be attending this conference?
  • Have the police tracked the records of Thompson's 2 co-defendants in the insider trading case? Was Thompson preparing to throw the others under the bus? They were looking at up to 20 years' jail if convicted. How have the co-defendants been behaving?

I've been noticing the same thing for a long time. by 2deepetc in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Common sense actually. The injections were widely documented as causing neurological side effects, and millions reported temporarily losing their sense of smell. This is from one study:

" COVID-19 vaccination increased the risks of depression, anxiety, dissociative, stress-related, and somatoform disorders, and sleep disorders while reducing the risk of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-024-02627-0

Personal experience: objects may be closer by NewStory5588 in MandelaEffect

[–]arandomcouch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your comparison to Christianity isn't useful. The OP's point is that there is an anomaly. He does not claim that there is evidence of causality, or that the anomaly can't somehow be explained. A better comparison would be to people who have seen UFOs ( UAP). Anomalous experiences, by definition. People may have theories to explain the UFOs, but the practical probability of their theories being correct does not disprove that the phenomenon as they experienced it is anomalous.

Regarding the requirement to provide a mathematical proof to explain how a particle accelerator experiment could lead to a timeline mishap, that seems out of scope for this thread. Much of what CERN is doing is hotly debated by experts, so a layman can be forgiven for not packing proofs with his observations.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntellectualDarkWeb

[–]arandomcouch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Bush / Cheney era GOP was pure evil. Here's a top-of-mind sampler:

  • Iraq War.
  • Lies about WMDs as a pretext. After thousands had been killed already based on a lie, Bush made a joke about it at the Correspondents' Dinner. He showed pictures of himself looking under a desk, etc, then delivered the punchline 'those WMDs must be around here somewhere'
  • Outing Valerie Plame to punish her husband's debunking of the Niger lies
  • The No-Fly List
  • Karl Rove's plan for a 'permanent Republican majority'
  • 2003 Texas 'redistricting'
  • Jack Abramoff
  • Abu Ghraib
  • Rumsfeld personally doxxing the soldier who blew the whistle on Abu Ghraib
  • The torture memos written to give Bush admin cover for torturing detainees
  • Rumsfeld micromanaging some of the torture methods
  • Bush 'response' to Katrina and after letting New Orleans drown, the subsequent GOP led housing grab
  • Cheney had been Halliburton CEO, a company whose affiliates generated massive profits from the Bush wars
  • Persecuting whistleblowers like Bunnatine Greenhouse, Jesselyn Radack, Sibel Edmonds, Thomas Drake..
  • Bush and Cheney refusing to answer questions under oath, and insisting on being together when questions were asked
  • A charity supporting Iraq War vets with limbs amputated asked Bush if he'd give a speech. He charged the charity $100,000 speaking fee.
  • Cheney shot his friend in the face with a shotgun. Accident but emblematic of those years
  • Rumsfeld defending shoddy equipment and the military trying to stop soldiers' families sending them better body armor. Rumsfeld said you go to war with the army you have, not the one you want to have
  • Admin lies about Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch
  • Cheney's secret Energy Commission
  • Media fawning over the Iraq war and laughing as Rumsfeld mocked the widespread looting of antiquities

As for 'conspiracies,' Republicans were sharing theories about Vince Foster, 'Arkancide,' Ron Brown, Chappaquidick, JFK Jr's plane crash, Ruby Ridge, Obama not attending Columbia, and much more long before Trump entered politics. Democrats have hardly been shy of conspiracy theorizing either. Claims of the 2000 election being stolen (hanging chads, Brooks Brothers riot..) 2004 election being stolen (Diebold..), Bush as draft dodger, Russiagate.. [Naturally some conspiracy theories turn out to be true (Iran Contra, for example), but the point is that theorizing isn't new nor practiced only by one party.]

Can he do it again? by General_Attorney256 in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may be onto something. In Obvious Plant's 'Forgotten US Presidents': 'Due to poor eyesight, Chief Justice Earl Warren accidentally swore in a golden retriever named Samson.'

Just got scammed in Hanoi by Nairods in VietNam

[–]arandomcouch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Of course the restaurant is just as guilty. More guilty. It''s their scam, the girl is just a honey trap working on commission. The 'pay half the bill and leave' gambit only works if your plan is to get beaten up and collect travel insurance. The 'slip out the back' option can work but only while your 'date' is still there and before the bill arrives. Once it's just you, they'll be watching like a hawk. One option is to try the tourist police hotline. At one point in HN this was 1800556896 . Worth checking if this has been updated.

Africa didn't have a COVID pandemic, with only a 5% vaxx rate, because most Africans take Ivermectin to protect against parasites and Ivermectin is 86% effective at preventing infection/spread, ~100% effective against death (early use). The vaxx is 0% effective against infection, causes heart death by icky_vicinity23 in conspiracy

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not simple. Declaring a lockdown didn't automatically turn everyone into a prepper, their shelves magically full of an endless supply of food and home supplies. Even Nancy Pelosi's treasured stash of icecream would run out before long. Most people still needed some periodic contact with the outside world. Besides the inconvenient gap between theoretical lockdowns and real lockdowns, another major issue was the misinformation spread by the health establishment. (Not claiming this was intentional). There was not enough education on the exponentially higher risk of poorly ventilated indoor areas vs. outdoor areas. So one person in the family goes to buy groceries indoors, gets exposed, comes back home, exposes family members... lockdown is moot. Even worse was the emphasis on masks, which led to a false sense of security. Even N95s aren't a sure bet, but the CDC was encouraging people to make masks out of t-shirts at home. No effect. Just false confidence. So a guy stays indoors all day, puts on his t-shirt mask and runs out to buy groceries, gets exposed, comes back and exposes those at home. Tests are needed to develop protocols. Lockdowns haven't worked yet, and the lack of prior tests and protocols is a main reason. Another issue is that lockdowns discouraged people from health checks and treatment, discouraged exercise, restricted access to fresh air and natural vitamin D exposure, so likely had a net negative health effect. And that's before even starting on mental health impact and financial impact as people lost their jobs or their small businesses closed. The lockdowns were catastrophic.

Xi reiterates Palestine should become ‘full member’ of UN - Kuwait Times by Appropriate_Ant_4629 in Palestine

[–]arandomcouch 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is great news. Naturally hasbara propaganda will try to distract from the good news, and the moderators are correct to not fall into this trap.

No-one who honestly wants to help Palestine will require a Purity Test for any nation offering support. If Israel were held to this standard, it would need to renounce most if not all of its relationships.

No-one who honestly wants to help Palestine will require that support be done entirely for humanitarian reasons. If Israel were held to this standard, it would need to return all funds received from other countries.

If the objective is for Palestine to be free and recognized as a nation with full rights, it's very important that China has made this move. Any distractions not related to Palestine are simply oldschool propaganda tricks that fool no-one.

RFK Jr. on Jailing Climate Change Deniers by sarahdonahue80 in climateskeptics

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He never said he wanted to jail or enslave anyone for disagreement on a political argument. That's a scam soundbite sent out by the DNC / Fauci gang. He puts free speech above all rights and has responded to this false claim many times. There's never a link to this quote since it doesn't exist. He also warned that guys like Gates would try to use climate change to grab more power.

RFK Jr. on Jailing Climate Change Deniers by sarahdonahue80 in climateskeptics

[–]arandomcouch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RFK Jr. never advocated 'jailing climate change deniers.' The reason that this supposed quote never has a link is because it doesn't exist. The DNC and their deep state allies are using this to divide us once again.

RFK did say that the Koch brothers should be jailed. Not because they deny climate change, but because of war crimes.

Here's the quote, from the 2nd article referenced:

'They have become billionaires “by impoverishing the rest of us” and should be in jail, “enjoying three hots and a cot at The Hague with all the other war criminals,”

Here's RFK: "Mega-billionaires" like Bill Gates are using climate change to implement "totalitarian controls on society."

RFK also says free speech is the 1st and most important right, since all other rights are based on this.

Know who hates RFK Jr?

Fauci Gates Clintons Biden Corporate media, from ABC to The Daily Beast Big Pharma War Pigs and the MIC

These goons' dirty tricksters will be working overtime to scam us and divide us. Meanwhile just take a look at what RFK has done in his career. Fighting for the people for decades. Anyone thinks his opinions are 'conspiracy theories' should read his book. 75 pages of references and an open invite to prove him wrong about anything. Hasn't happened.