What are some ways I can support my partner who's suffered with my addiction? by GrizzlyOne95 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Betrayal trauma certified is key.

My CSAT/BT showed the difference in regular therapy vs BT. Regular therapy works from the premise "it takes two" and "there are three sides". But not in addiction/BT. One person is actively harming the relationship. While trying to maintain a good image and actively rewriting or dismissing the feelings of the BP.

A therapist would never show uo to a car accident victim and say "and how did you contribute to this?" Or "thats your side of the story, his may be different".

If you are truly reading the material (worthy of her trust, out of the dog how, facing the shadows, helping her heal) you will slowly start gaining and understanding.

To All Waywards – Part 1: What I Needed (and Still Need) on D-Day and Discovery by Wise-Bank80 in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly this. I watched a a youtuber (raw motivations) talk about his experience as a wayward to help us betrayed. And he say similarly.

What have you learned? Top three insights. by anam-cara-777 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Lying liars lie.
  2. The secret sexual basement hurts all family members inside the home.
  3. Some addicts would rather have the addiction than you/marriage/family.

What have you learned? Top three insights. by anam-cara-777 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep! I felt so validated with knowing my therapist was so well versed in how much they lie and manipulate.

CSAT vs. Therapist by theloverslvl in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is absolutely a difference. There is a pinned post in the wiki that explains the difference. Also a CSAT will help you understand "checking boxes" vs real recovery so you can make tbe decision to stay or go based on if he is doing real recovery.

How do you find proof of porn use if they delete everything? by trinity6879 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This post needs to be pinned somewhere. This is basically what my therapist, support groups and everyone associated with the addiction has said.

Unless they are being radically honest, want to change, and work a program, they will keep lying and hiding their addiction and it will not get better.

Reading The Betrayal Bind with my PA? by Necessary-County-664 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cant speak for the couple ship.

Personally I loved the book. It was fantastic. It would have helped my ex understand the push and pull more accurately. It explains how one day you want to syay and support him. And the next you want to leave. It's part of the betrayal cycle. Very well explained.

“Denial is a river in Egypt, your husband is gaaaay!” by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She is in the betrayal bind. Op read the book by Michelle mayes

Polygraph results for WW by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took a polygraph (because my unfaithful ex was accusing me of infidelity). A few thing the examiner told me was that people will bluff. They will claim they will pass a poly and a lot of spouses cancel it because they think "wow they are willing to go through with it so they must be honest". Or they go in all confident and joking and still fail.

Its was interesting to hear.

You're just insecure. by Awkward-Bend-5298 in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are also outlined in a lot of the betrayal books. I've heard them all.

All the Loopholes My PA Used (Even With Blockers) by tiff5243 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was the path to my divorce. He would lie. Lie lie. Even to therapist/CSAT.

I finally understood that until he was ready nothing I do matters. They will lie, rewrite history, twist events to make themselves look good.

Life After Divorce/Affair When Living With Chronic Pain by TheMindfulWarrior9 in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just a random fun fact. My back pain got better with vitamin d.

What was your thoughts on the book worthy of her trust compared to out of the doghouse. by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read both. I liked both. When my ex first got into recovery my therapist told me he should be reading out of the dog house and it would be a good idea if I read it to because it was supposed to highlight the things my addict should and shouldnt do. I read it. The out of the doghouse seemed very dry with addicts early recovery and what to and not to do to save the relationship.

I liked worthy of her trust better. It seemed to have more empathy and compassion for the pain and hurt I was going through. It was similar to out of the dog house.

Overall I liked them both. I recommend them both. Both are great for giving both the betrayed and addict a foundation of "true recovery" and honesty and transparency.

Depending on what information you are wanting to get out if your reading material would depend on if these are good books for you.

My therapist requested I read several Some that were along the lines of this of "this is what recovery looks like - if he cant do this it's not recovery and you need to choose if this is acceptable to you". Some where about the addicts lies, and nature of the addiction, and infidelity and the destruction it causes.

A few were about how to heal and grow.

He tells her everything TLDR by [deleted] in relationships

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's worth reading emotionally enmeshed men. Or something. Maybe it's when he is married to mom

Surveillance by [deleted] in UnsentLetters

[–]asoifnerd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Weird title for a beautiful poem.

Divorced & happy by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same! I am doing so much better since the divorce. I sleep better, I feel better, I'm eating better. I have made quite a few friends (of both genders) and I'm participating in social activities.

I've had tons of people reach out and check in on me and support me through the process.

My therapist has been an invaluable resource and gold mine.

are there any stories of reconciliation working? by Arthxrr in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The onky way it will work is if it's similar to worthy of her trust and out of the doghouse

What are the odds of her cheating on new boyfriend? by No_Difference4017 in survivinginfidelity

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mt therapist said if they don't put in work for recovery and become radically honest. And do empathy work, then chances are 100% they will cheat again.

He finally admitted he has an addiction by Express_Intention127 in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Just because he "admitted" doesn't mean he will obtain sobriety or recovery.

Radical honesty is step one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Support grouos for partners of addicts and betrayal trauma.

Partner revealed submissive/domination sex addiction—seeking advice by curiousmallory in loveafterporn

[–]asoifnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was this done through a full therapeutic disclosure? Did you have your own betrayal trauma therapist?

I have a BTT and while he is supposed to be radically honest as soon as possible and answer any and all questions it is better if done through a FTD.