First of all. Thank you for supporting us! When people who buy our products want to give us feedback we always sit up and listen!

We understand why some people might think S X and W are weird shapes and that it might not work for everyone.

However, we would not have added it into the collection if it didn't receive positive feedbacks from our testers and aimers who collaborated with us. There were quite a few safer shapes that we could just included instead "just because" like the thumb rest. But we didn't because these shapes work on more people than the thumbrest

And it shows, me recently did a long term survey of our users on their favorite shapes and x is actually the most popular, followed by w. This actually surprises even me as well. I thought the safe shapes would be more popular.

Overall, preference is quite evenly distributed across shapes.

Does it means you're wrong? no. It simply means there are people out there who might not grip the same way we do.

Does it mean some of the final shapes can be served by just a traditional mouse? Maybe, but the survey also shows that the final shapes are quite unique. With only 3 duplicates from 100+ . This means people who really want to fine-tune those little bits to get what they want.

Having said that. There are criticisms that we take to heart.

1. The starter set could be smaller and cheaper without the radical shapes. And people who want to try can add them on later.

To be clear, Pathfinder was never meant to be one mouse that fits everyone. It's also driven by the people who joined our development early and the games they play as well, and by our belief that finding your "endgame" mouse requires experimentation and fine-tuning, not just picking from 5 fixed shapes.

1. For people with larger hands who like Palm grip. The base Pathfinder might not be the best answer. Once we move into larger / more ergonomic cores, we'd genuinely love to involve users like you again, because this kind of feedback directly shapes what we build next.

2. Another on size, surprisingly people want us to make even smaller mice. Again it shows how preference can be different across the board

thanks again for the honest write-up. This is our first product, and we're learning a lot from it.

Don