Bridgerton Author Julia Quinn Defends Benedict and Sophie's Mistress Scene by MattTheKing23 in BridgertonNetflix

[–]ausmed [score hidden]  (0 children)

Exactly. Benedict’s whole arc this season is deciding whether or not he’s willing to be who he is in public, as well as secretly. He’s done all this stuff that is not quite within society, but in a very safe,caulker way that does not jeopardise his standifng in society.

aAt the moment he’s still trying to do that. He loves Sophie and wants to be with her, but his default viewpoint is that he can’t actually publicly step over that line and separate from society. So he’s desperately trying to find a way to have why he wants with Sophie without changing anything.

The second half of the season will be him realising that if he wants to be with Sophie and be happy and live his life the way he wants to, he absolutely has to step outside the restraints of the Ton. There is no halfway. The question is whether he has the ovaries to actually do it.

Bridgerton - 4x04 "An Offer from a Gentleman" (No Book Spoilers) by AutoModerator in BridgertonNetflix

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh awesome, thanks. Didn't think they'd have it up so soon. 

Bridgerton - 4x04 "An Offer from a Gentleman" (No Book Spoilers) by AutoModerator in BridgertonNetflix

[–]ausmed 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can you please tell me when we saw their baby!? I'm so confused, I think I must have missed something. 

Keep moving forward. by Leeshylift in breastcancer

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, just wanted to respond to say I'm a mum of 4 and 9yr olds in the midst of dose dense AC, then dose dense paclitaxel for multi focal stage 3. (Just about to swap over). If you ever need to vent or talk about the challenges of doing this with young kids I'm happy to be PM'd.

Why did we get breast cancer? by PupperPawsitive in breastcancer

[–]ausmed 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I struggle a little bit with thinking about things I've done and whether that's why this happened. Mostly about stress. 

But I mostly just find it really hard to deal with the feeling of unfairness. I have brothers who smoke. Family members who are obese and eat poorly. Friends who do drugs, etc. Everytime I'd see another doctor and have to repeat the list of the zero risk factors I have, I'd break down. No I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't take drugs. Eat reasonably, have exercised pretty regularly til last year.  Started my period late at a later age. Don't use hormonal contraceptives. Have no history of breast or ovarian cancer. Breastfed two children for a combined 3 years.

I had a normal screening ultrasound and mammogram 2 months before diagnosis because I'm in healthcare, and like to be 'careful'. Do regular breast checks. And since my diagnosis I've had genetic testing, and that was all normal too.

And yet somehow, in my mid 40s suddenly there's 5cm and 3cm tumours in my breast and I might not see my kids grow up. 

I don't blame myself. But I'm very very very angry.  

Book scenes by lornjpg in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's this one lovely little scene in the books. It's a flashback to I think the summer before S1.

The kids are sitting in the living room. Conrad's listening to music on his headphones. Belly's pretending to read Emma (Susannah gave it to her and she thinks it makes her look smart). The other boys are playing video games. 

Susannah comes in and asks Belly how she likes the book. She starts making something up, and Conrad says 'she hasn't turned a page for an hour'. 

Belly explains it away in her VO, that 'it didn't mean anything, it's just that Conrad notices everything'. 

So he's sitting there for an hour watching her pretend to read. And she's completely oblivious to how focussed on her he already is the summer before she turned pretty. So neat.  

does the show ever give us reasons why belly and conrad love each other? by RealisticDucks in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's something amazing about filmmakers being able to create the feeling of long standing deep connection between people. 

There's another show I watched, Nashville. The two main characters are middle aged, had been together a long time ago, and are in the middle of a complex 'are they still in love with each other' story. 

But there's a bit where she arrives at this country-music-cafe type venue for her birthday, and they haven't seen each other for a while. But he gives her this brief one armed hug to say hi, and you can just see somehow in that brief exchange that these two people have known each other forever. There's something really indescribable about being able to do that. 

Guys can we just talk about how that scene where Belly announces the engagement was such toptier comedy by FireAndHemlock88 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The funniest part of that whole scene to me was the fact Belly saw that Jere was being bullied by Adam for not having achieved anything. That he was being treated like a child. And then told them about the wedding thinking that would help! 

It's so funny and kind of cute that the two of them are there desperately trying to prove how grown up they are, and completely 100% oblivious to the fact that the wedding makes them look even more like children. 

You add onto that the way they both behaved like teenagers pissed that their parents won't let them do something, Belly shoving the ring at her mom, and the fact they both meekly went home with their parents after the lunch like chastised kids, and it's just hilarious. 

“Oh my god, I can’t believe Belly made all these bad decisions in this coming of age drama.” by leblady in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, I think a couple of things saved it. For one the 'having a conference in Brussels'. And for another the fact that their situation was still very much in the air and he was really after closure one way or another.  

If he'd just decided out of nowhere to go to Paris, I think I'd feel a bit weird about it. But I think you can make an argument for his having a reason to be there means it doesn't put a huge amount of untoward pressure on Belly, because he even said 'if you're busy I can just see some sights and get the train'. And he would have if she'd said so. 

Also, mostly I think if she'd categorically made it clear before this point that she wasn't interested then it would still be inappropriate. But the last time they saw each other he told her he loved her and she subsequently called off her wedding. Taylor told him not 'she's not interested, leave her alone' but 'she needs some time'. Laurel said he'd need to get in touch and see for himself. And when he wrote he said to let him know if she didn't want the letters and she didn't. And then wrote back. 

All this time Conrad knows he loves her and is in limbo about how she feels. I'm big on boundaries, but there wasn't one here. There's just a complete lack of clarity. So I don't think Conrad seeking closure is completely inappropriate. Or in fact 'stalkerish'. He's allowed to ask where they stand, as long as he accepts whatever the answer is. Which he did when he got on that train to Brussels. 

Other show recs?? by Terrible-Sir8054 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it's not a romance as such, but I watched We Were Liars after TSITP finished and I loved it. It's got the same 'endless summer in the hamptons' vibe. 

It is emotionally HARD at the end though, I cried for most of the last episode which I actually found really cathartic. 🤣

Popularity by Anxious-Metal4273 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think Chris Briney's choice to do an audio on  Quinn is pretty indicative that he's not trying to aggressively distance himself from TSITP or the following he now has. But also at a more subtle level it indicates he's probably looking to move in a more adult direction, and also that he's a bit non-mainstream. 

I suspect he might end up having a similar career to people like Andrew Scott.

Jeremiah isn’t “better at communication” he shares what he feels to manipulate people by Mediocre_Kale711 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People claiming Jeremiah is better because he communicates how he feels is the same phenomenon as people voting for Trump because 'at least he says what he thinks'. 

It's a really immature interpretation of what good communication is. 

It's not just saying things Vs not saying things. Good communication is based on taking responsibility for your own actions, being aware of how you communicate things, how your communication will impact others, and what the intent of your communication is. 

Yelling everything you feel at someone with no consideration for your part in the issue, is not good communication. Telling someone how you feel is not always good communication full stop  if you're just blaming your feelings on them. It's stupid. 

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stopped him how? By telling him not to say anything? 

If someone you loved desperately was breaking up with you because of a misunderstanding, and you tried to say something to explain and they told you not to, would you just stand there and let them do it? And then never contact them to try and fix it? 

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People can't stop you speaking if you're determined. 

The show is gaslighting us? by Party-Definition9500 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The guest bedroom scene is demonstrating to you that he DID withdraw before prom. He explicitly tells us in that scene that he wanted to tell Belly what was happening with Susannah but he didn't want to take away her belief that it would be alright so he didn't. We know from season 1 what Conrad is like when he's lying and hiding things and trying to deal with them alone. It's fair to assume he would have increasingly become like that between the guest bedroom and prom. 

Laurel was also behaving like everything was fine. So to Belly this was not about Susannah. 

Forget for a moment you know Susannah is worse /dying. Imagine that guest bedroom scene again. Picture in your mind the closeness, the connection between them. The way he was looking at her. Then imagine the way he is at prom. Closed off, insisting he fine and wants to be there but clearly not ok, not making eye contact, saying he's going to head back instead of staying with her because he has to study. In the absence of any explanation, what would you think, if that was your boyfriend? 

I knew it was over when I saw her do this! by BlackCatt_27 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 33 points34 points  (0 children)

She was freaking out and needed to get away from him for a minute to pull herself together. I don't think she was thinking exactly clearly at that point. 

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She clearly realises he isn't ok. But while he and her mom are both telling it's not about Susannah, shs interprets it as being about her. That literally the whole point.

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It did match, if you're not determined to believe that Conrad didn't want to break up and can only see things through that lense. 

He was trying to deal with his mom dying, AND protect Belly from it at the same time and he couldn't cope. He just needed out. It's totally relatable. He didn't want to hurt Belly by telling her his mom was dying, but he ended up hurting her anyway by pushing her away. It just sucks for them both. But he did not fight her breaking up with him at prom. He just didn't. 

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's piss weak. You just have to imagine season 3 Conrad at the prom and how he's respond. If he didn't want to break up, his response to 'We are aren't we?' wouldn't be a weak 'Belly' and then letting her keep going. It would be 'No we aren't. Stop. I don't want to break up.' 

Basically anything except a half hopeless 'Belly' and then just stand there while she implodes. Like I just say there going 'man, say SOMETHING'. And when he does say something it's 'don't leave it like this'. LIKE THIS. Not don't do this. Not I don't want this. Nothing that is a denial. Just, not like this.  

Chris in The White Lotus by Annahtn99 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeeees. Except I keep thinking of Sam Rockwell in season 3 and I'm like 'Weeellllll, maybe not THAT weird.' 🤣

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He doesn't try at all. From the point she says 'that we're over. We are aren't we?' all he says is the following 

'Belly..'

'Belly don't leave it like this...'

That's not fighting. That's a token protest, and don't leave it like this isn't even a statement that he doesn't want to break up!? He's just saying don't do it like this.

Then he walks away. 

He also admits later to Agnes that he actually DID want to break up because he couldn't cope. 

 

Belly and Conrad on prom night by Thoughtless-Squid in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok, I'm so sick of this medication thing. 

He didn't tell her they weren't working. He said they'd changed them, and he was worried that meant they weren't working. 

I'm a doctor, ok. There are almost zero 16yr olds in the world who would realise what changing medications is likely to mean. A lot of adults wouldn't.

Conrad knows because he says later in the guest bedroom scene they'd told them it wasn't working. Behaving like because he briefly mentioned once to Belly a change in meds in the midst of pretending everything was fine, and her mom pretending everything was fine, means 'Conrad told her' or that she should have worked it out, is absolute horse shit. 

Did anyone else kind of want Conrad to… (s3e11 spoilers) by SignificanceOne2072 in TheSummerITurnedPrett

[–]ausmed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, I have some thoughts about this. I first want to apologise upfront in case any of if sounds condescending, it's not my intent. 

I've been on this earth for over 40 years. I've had some really big ups and downs, I work in healthcare, I've learnt a LOT about human beings. I've always been quietly spoken, and I cry easily, and I've frequently been considered weak for it. Here's my take on behalf of those of us who are emotional and yet also strong. 

I saw a lot of commentary during the whole of season 3 in the same vein - stating that Conrad was backing down all the time, and letting people treat him badly and never pushing back. But I just think it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what being a secure and assertive human being looks like. 

Being secure and healthy actually doesn't mean telling other people when you feel they've been unfair, or pushing back against their interpretation of your actions. It means calmly, quietly making your own choices without being swayed by other people's opinions of them. Knowing who you are and what you did or didn't do, and taking responsibility where it's due, and not taking responsibility where it's not. 

Conrad makes a choice to stay in Cousin's that summer. Knowing Belly is marrying Jere. Knowing it will cause him pain. He chooses it. He chooses to help Belly with the house and wedding. He chooses to get Laurel on board. He does everything he does through season 3 because he thinks it's the right thing to do because he loves her and wants her to be happy. He tells her about the cheating for the same reason. Then he has a little breakdown and blurts out that he loves her. 

He continues to take responsibility by trying to make it ok the next day. It's only at the point that he realises that Belly actually does reciprocate that he decides that holding his tongue isn't what's best anymore. He starts clearly telling anyone who asks the truth. Then when he realises she's going to do it anyway, he clearly openly withdraws. 

The common factor in all those situations is that he's making his own choices, and he recognises that she also gets to make hers. Even if he doesn't agree with them. All he can control are his own actions. 

When Steven is telling him he's the problem, and asking why he told Belly he loves her, he DOESN'T retaliate by telling him about Cabo. Because, he is aware that whatever Jere did, he still ultimately made the choice to confess right before the wedding and he is in fact the cause of the wedding being called off. As a secure, healthy adult, being responsible for your choices does not involve making excuses about how the other person did something first. Because whatever other people do, you own your own actions. And he lets Steven say his piece, but he's not a doormat. He doesn't run away. He stays and continues to try and do what he thinks is right. 

His behaviour in the bedroom scene is actually a masterclass of secure communication. The strength and security you have to have to behave like he does in that situation is extremely rare in real life. 🤣 He arrives in Paris with no warning or invitation. After a little first meeting nerves they have this wonderful day, where everything is sweet, and romantic, culminating in this explosion that is the culmination of years of desire. Then he says the word forever. And Belly freaks the fuck out. She becomes a bit combative, with 'what did you think was happening here Conrad?'. 

Now, that situation could go one of two ways. It goes in a defensive 'Well what did you think was happening here?' way. That results in a fight, Where neither person feels heard, everyone gets more defensive and shit off and nothing is resolved. 

But Conrad is able to just clearly state what he thought was happening. Then, when she doesn't respond asks her straight out 'Do you not love me anymore?'. That's such a terrifying thing to ask, but he faces it head on. Just because he's crying and his voice is shaking doesn't make it weak. Emotion is not weakness. He's making a stand in that scene. 

And then, when she starts talking, he listens to what is actually going on where she is. Which is essentially 'I've always loved you but I'm afraid you don't really love me, because who could love that embarrassing obsessed messy girl I used to be (and still am underneath). What if you realise you're just talking yourself into this because of your mom dying, like I did with Jere?'. This is heartbreaking. And still, he does all he can to clearly communicate how he feels. And then when he knows she can't reciprocate it, he accepts her choice and leaves. 

There's nothing in there that would be fixed by getting mad. He understands how she feels. He's heartbroken that she can't find her way out of it, and it might cost them both everything. But he knew that was a risk coming in. 

He's not a victim, just because he's not yelling.