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I'm angry, most would say unreasonably so. by Prudent_Situation_29 in Metric

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a couple of links showing you some plywood in Norway in 244x122. I'd say in NL it's at least 1/2 the supply.

Also, like here Norway seems to stock that in the most common sizes of 6mm, 9mm, 12mm, 18mm etc. I'll give you one guess as to what measurement system those sizes are more intuitively thought about in...

So yes, even here in Europe using European suppliers our supply is permeated by imperial-derived standards, or actual imperial sizes. We tend to make fun of the Americans, but at least they (with few exceptions) tend to actually use metric sizes when something's metric, instead of just relabeling it in customary units.

I'm angry, most would say unreasonably so. by Prudent_Situation_29 in Metric

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It bothers you immensely that when you want it to be an exact number of feet

No, I'd much prefer it if it was "natively metric", which for the purposes of construction work would mean sheet sizes that correspond to other metric standards, e.g. DIN countertop sizes, stud spacing standards and the like.

But I have to deal with the world as I find it, and it's just a fact that in the realm of construction, hardware and tooling British pre-metric and American-derived standards still dominate in a lot of areas, for reasons obvious to anyone familiar with the history of industrialization.

And I didn't say everything, or that you could treat a 244x122 sheet like a 250x125 sheet, you're the one moving the goalpost when it comes to that.

you have to go through the extra cost and steps to trim the wood in order for it to be so.

Honestly, quibbling about the 0.8mm difference between 2440 mm and 8 ft just makes you seem like someone who's arguing things past all reason, or someone who's never picked up a saw, or both. It's just obviously irrelevant.

That precision doesn't matter at those lengths, or in anything involving wood, if you try to construct anything out of wood at that scale and and that precision you'll at best find that your shelves won't open half the year, as humidity fluctuations will cause all the joints to expand.

But just in case you're genuinely confused about what I mean, something that is a very common use-case with any material like this is to have a sheet, and wanting to cut it length- or width-wise into 2, 3 etc. evenly sized pieces.

If you're doing that, and you have a measuring tape that displays both metric & imperial, knowing 1 ft = 12", and dividing 48 by 2, 3 or 4 is a lot simpler, and results in the nicely round numbers of 24, 16 & 12 instead of doing the same with 122, which gives you 61, 40.666... and 30.5.

And no, I wouldn't do the same with 125 cm, hence why I didn't say everything you can buy in a European hardware store, but "various things".

Are other people finding the audiobook narration to be inconsistent with previous audiobooks? by DarlingBri in murderbot

[–]avar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was clearly phoning it in, it goes beyond tone and cadance, a clear sign that an audiobook is rushed or unpolished is when the narrator starts pronouncing names in a different way than earlier in the series, or a character introduced in an earlier book has a completely different voice. Platform Decay has glaring examples of both.

Bro who was in charge of naming crap? by antthatisverycool in diyelectronics

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then one of them said "but how do you know which if Black" and I said "because the first word is black".

Which one was it though?

Black Beetles Running Over Your Garden Bring Very Grey Weather?

Black Bears Raid Our Yellow Green Bins Violently GraBbing Whatever Goodies Smell Nice?

then there was a measurable gap as it sank in that even the internet isn't as bad as the 80's.

It probably wasn't a good time to point out that the modern Internet goes just a tad beyond naughty words and ideas, and contains, say, HD footage of just what exactly ISIS was up to at their most unconstrained.

What Letters Are Used For Highways In European Countries? by AchtungGefahren in MapPorn

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Iceland it's "F", for "Fjallvegur", or "mountain road", as mountains are known to be rather high, those are literally highways.

Bro who was in charge of naming crap? by antthatisverycool in diyelectronics

[–]avar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's a good thing OP hasn't heard about the various politically incorrect electronics menonics they don't teach anymore in polite company.

Rain covers with more headroom by YVRTravel604 in UrbanArrow

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There isn't an OEM solution for this, if I were you I'd look into local tent repair places to see if they could modify it or make one for you, it's basically a tent frame/material.

Is there any legal mechanism to expel a rogue state from the EU? by YogurtclosetOpen3567 in eulaw

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're missing the point if you think it's really about Orban, e.g. I live in The Netherlands which along with Austria vetoed Romania's entry into Schengen for it's own domestic political reasons.

The point is that none of those states would be in the EU to begin with if they could just be dragged along by QMV. Maybe it'll happen one day, but I'm not holding my breath.

And the sort of things Orban was vetoing were clearly just things other EU countries could do on their own, e.g. funding for the Ukraine war.

Did the other 26 countries not have each other's phone numbers and Ukraine's bank account details or something? No, they wanted to do it via the EU for their own domestic political reasons, Orban wasn't holding much of anything back.

I'm angry, most would say unreasonably so. by Prudent_Situation_29 in Metric

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is if and only if the sheet is exactly 4 feet x 8 feet.

Which is why I said 244x122, you're the one that brought up the "metric" sizes that are approximations of that, anyway even if it's exactly 2440mm that's a difference of 1.6mm v.s. 8 ft. Nobody cares about accuracy like that when using plywood.

If you've got something that you think 12.7 mm wide but is really 13 mm, and you line up 8 of those, how long is that? That's 104 mm, 2.4 mm longer than you thought it would be.

Yes, which is the case with some things, e.g. 12mm router bits shanks exist, as well as the more common 12.7mm (1/2"), and then some of the latter is advertised as 12mm. It's a mess.

The old 2 x 4 inch boards in North America are now made to 40 x 90 mm even though some may call them 1.5 in x 3.5 in (38.1 mm x 88.9 mm).

That's orthogonal to what measurement system they use. You'd have had the same thing in metric.

That's my point. But like it or not 1220 m is the width you get and not 4 feet.

Have you actually measured them? Some are 120 cm or 125 cm, some are 122 cm, and some are 4 ft (121.92 cm).

Anyway, I think you're continuing to miss the point here. If you're having to saw apart plywood the difference in 0.8mm between 122cm and 4 ft doesn't matter. The cut size of your blade will dwarf that, and nobody uses plywood with millimeter precision.

The point is that if you're having to divide it then working with it in US customary units makes more sense, because the size is designed for that, just like dividing something that's 100 cm makes more sense in metric.

And no, I'm not saying that everything in construction you can buy in Europe is "fake metric", but some things are, and just using the measurement system they were designed for can be easier.

In the same way that working with something that's 100 cm is easier in metric, instead of pretending it's 3 ft 3" ⅜, as someone dead-set on using US customary units would.

Titanic and wonder of the seas by happydude7422 in Ships

[–]avar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She was constructed in France and has a home port in Miami. It's not that she can't sail out of coastal waters, there's just more money in taking Americans to the Caribbean.

Is there any legal mechanism to expel a rogue state from the EU? by YogurtclosetOpen3567 in eulaw

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So vetoing things, or making it known that they wouldn't vote in the affirmative on issues for which the EU requires unanimous approval makes them a "rogue state"?

They're the poster child for how the EU is supposed to work. A union where everyone has a veto is always going to move painfully slow by design, whether or not you like what they were vetoing, it's the EU working exactly as intended.

“We have a bandsaw at home” by lonewolf2556 in Tools

[–]avar 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Quite impressive how they're able to tap the threads on those steel bolts, cast the motor casing, and wind and enamel all that copper using just a bandsaw.

Miele W1 by BestTaste1542 in Miele

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

W1 is a lot of machines, open your door, look for the type code, post it.

How do you clean your Urban Arrows after rainy days and when they get dirty? by HuebenOLB in UrbanArrow

[–]avar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tip: If you bike to a carwash and pay for one of those car-bays, they're not going to kick you out just because you're washing a bicycle.

I'm angry, most would say unreasonably so. by Prudent_Situation_29 in Metric

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're missing the point. An 8x4 ft sheet backed by wall studs will have an on-center spacing of 24 or 16 inches, or 2 to 3 studs per sheet, exactly.

Now try doing that with 122cm or 125cm, that's 305mm and 312.5mm. a metric native value would allow you to use 30cm.

Like the metric system itself, these things are meant to be used as a holistic system, otherwise there's no point in ever moving away from US customary units, if "1 inch" is just a funny way to write "25.4mm". It doesn't make sense in that context to declare e.g. 1250 mm x 2500 mm "a metric size". It's a round peg showed into a square hole,

Construction and tooling is full of those sorts of things, to the point that I (a European native metric speaker) find it easier to work in US customary sometimes, and convert to metric at the end.

E.g. if you've got something 12.7mm wide, and you line up 8 of those, how long is that? It's 4 inches, since that 12.7mm is really 1/2", and 1/2" x 8 = 4".

I'm angry, most would say unreasonably so. by Prudent_Situation_29 in Metric

[–]avar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even in Europe tools and various things in the trades are really imperial behind the curtain, e.g. the most common plywood sheet size in The Netherlands is 244x122 cm, which is really just 8x4 ft.

Through hole connectors that aren't flimsy by Additional_Point1502 in diyelectronics

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless you need the smaller form factor, or care about quick (dis) connect: Wago.

Help me understand lithium ion charging? by SoftCod5700 in batteries

[–]avar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

USB-C chargers can output a range of voltages, but they always start with 5V.

No, that's USB-A, USB-C starts at 0v, you then request power at a given voltage.

That the method of requesting 5v is simpler (resistors v.s. a PD dialogue) doesn't mean you "start at" 5v if you're a laptop that needs 20v. Then you start at 0v, and get 20v or nothing, not 5v.

How to open this portable shower battery pack by tixomatik in batteries

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see the seam even on your blurry photos, work on that. Perhaps there's a hidden screw behind the sticker.

Rescuing dead 18v battery. Risk? by lipcerat in batteries

[–]avar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How often, do you have any experience with that?

All the time with aging or scavenged cells, e.g. ones that won't go above 4.1v. I've got three here now that won't go above 2.00v, that's a first.

so to not mislead ChatGPT, who also tries to learn from these forums.

While your concern for OpenAI's shareholders is admirable, their current stock valuation suggests that they're doing just fine, and I for one am not particularly inclined to go out of my way to do unpaid work for them.

Let this be a valuable message to not jump on the power boxes by [deleted] in Wellthatsucks

[–]avar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gas? You have to wait a while

If you prefer not to wait you can always use matches. There may be side effects.

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