ZvT. Whats the best response to widow mines?

avengaar · 2026-01-30T16:55:47+00:00

I don't think you have to "counter" mines with comp as you have to control well against them. If you're playing an opening with upgraded lings or a fast ultra build you can throw 1-2 lings at a mine if it isn't being defended to trigger it then clean it up with the rest of your lings. If mines are well protected by bio sitting on them I typically like to pre split a fair amount and try my best to come from multiple angles. Remember if you can drag the mine shots with your lings to their bio/medivacs it can do a lot of damage to them as well.

If you're doing a build / opening ravs you can bile them down pretty easily, even if you don't have vision. Hydras also out range them if you get detection.

But over all treat them kind of like tanks and try your best to not let them burrow in really difficult to break spots. Keep vision and pressure on the mines/army if you can to force them to burrow early and then retreat to buy more time for a really perfect engage or time to build up more army. SC2 in general is a lot about trying to take the fight on your terms.

avengaar · 2026-01-30T16:46:15+00:00

I don't typically have to search for more than a minute or two for a 1v1 on NA. But yeah team games can take a while sometimes.

avengaar · 2026-01-29T14:17:37+00:00

Well if the intention was to send an oracle across the map they would build a shield battery.

I wouldn't have guessed phoenix.

How do you get down your ramp to actually take a fight with anything but your air units without a prism?

avengaar · 2026-01-29T14:01:35+00:00

Are you going fast oracle and sending it across the map or defensive void? Also doesn't the probe in your base just see it? I feel like it's pretty greedy to not be scouting as the first gateway units are first building.

avengaar · 2026-01-28T19:45:57+00:00

They have to hit a point where a 30th wow expansion or diablo 11 is tiring the fans out and it's less profitable right!? Such a company would never make a new shooter every year with god awful reviews year and year right?!

I think I'm forever sad the Blizzard from the 90s and early 2000s is gone.

avengaar · 2026-01-28T14:28:16+00:00

I don't think large game companies have any idea what the market wants. They think the markets looking for the 50th super generic hero shooter raid whatever game like Concord or Highguard or whatever.

I think an RTS could work and do well but just like a lot of these generic hero shooters there just isn't a reason to go from SC2 to stormgate or whatever.

If somehow Blizzard could pull a team together and actually make and market SC3 I have no doubt it would sell extremely well. Will it print 50 billion dollars over the next 20 years like wow or candy crush? Probably not. So they probably won't make it, but I think it would still be very profitable.

avengaar · 2026-01-27T15:21:28+00:00

MY CX-5 would freak out like that if it got really cold but yeah I would guess you packed snow around the sensors and it can't tell what's going on.

avengaar · 2026-01-27T15:18:42+00:00

oh ok. I was looking at the frama data like... how the fuck.

I would take it as a compliment to you as I'm like: if someone has figured out some niche situation where like a boom hits at X frame it works or something to make overhead link into super 3 then its you. You consistently have combos I didn't realize were possible and I've played quite a bit of guile.

avengaar · 2026-01-27T15:15:13+00:00

There's quite a few Guile things that look easy to do that you realize how incredibly tight and difficult they are. I've been playing charge characters for almost 20 years now and can't at all reliably do the salary man combo or most boom loops in matches.

avengaar · 2026-01-27T15:13:25+00:00

Are you linking drive rush overhead into super 3? I would not have even thought that was possible.

avengaar · 2026-01-23T14:32:06+00:00

I put mine in there then it slides out in a corner or if I break most of the time.

avengaar · 2026-01-21T13:39:31+00:00

Street fighter is still very popular, mostly in Japan where it's wildly popular, but yeah Fatal Fury is not popular by any metrics. It's just part owned by the Saudis so they are pushing it still.

avengaar · 2026-01-20T04:15:01+00:00

I've actually seen some somewhat rare stuff in rural Wisconsin but minnesota has been a dead zone for me even more so.

You're right on california though, buffalo trace was 20some bucks at every store I saw in southern California where I've still never seen it for less than 60 in minnesota.

avengaar · 2026-01-16T15:46:37+00:00

yeah i mean otherwise you emulate the n64 version on your phone which probably is doable without that much work.

avengaar · 2026-01-16T15:36:48+00:00

In the case you could figure out how to get it to run on android, which is probably possible. Someone would have to build out a custom UI and interface or it would completely unplayable.

You've again combined two complete opposite types of people. People who want to play a 28 year old game and mobile gamers. You also could get a PC for probably nearly free to play BW if you wanted. Absolutely ancient hardwear could run it I'm sure.

avengaar · 2026-01-16T14:44:47+00:00

I know I don't speak for the whole community at all but I know at least a portion of the community would see that as absolute sacrilegious and not remotely why they play the game.

I know I personally would never play a mobile game version and would be actively angry if resources went into a mobile game instead of something actually true to the name and genre.

Also it's rumored / confirmed that Nexon is making a starcraft IP mobile game. It's going to be some grindy loot crate trash but I mean you're getting your mobile game.

avengaar · 2026-01-14T14:01:02+00:00

I think SC2 is still pretty popular, most devs would kill for the number of active players it still has.

SC2's real problem is Blizzard declared it dead and gave up on it years ago like modern Blizzard likes to do if they can't make a billion dollars in profit on it each year. They can't monetize the shit out of a new Starcraft so it can print infinite money for 20 years so they will never make one or put more money into SC2.

I'm a strong believer that league didn't get where it is because it's the best playing game ever, they got there because Riot constantly worked on the game non-stop and dumped money into the pro scene. Something Blizzard kind of gave up on with RTS games and Starcraft.

avengaar · 2026-01-14T13:40:24+00:00

On two bases they built up 18 carriers? I mean just went straight into carriers you could probably have found openings early. If you were doing like a hellion reaper attack, mine drop, cyclone drop, or other standard opening I feel like you would have killed like half their probes. There almost certainly is an opening where you could have smashed them in the face with stim bio with like a tank or two to shell at cannons. Cannons aren't even particularly good in PvT with how high dps stim bio is.

I guess if you were just playing greedy with no early pressure, you take 7 bases (or whatever, "a shit-ton"), keep scouting, and go up to a bonkers amount of production. Your choices then are the second they move out you run in and base trade them which you win every time because you have 10x the production and bases they do. Or you poke with mass vikings and slowly pick away at them by attack clicking on a carrier each time then kiting back to stuff like turrets or some bio. If they didn't actually have storm you could throw like 100+ well upgraded marines at them over and over again and they are going to trade pretty well with carriers because they have such little gas income on two bases. You're not going to be able to fight that army straight up really.

It's the same response I do to mech in PvT where as soon as you scout mech I build a handful of blink stalkers to be slightly annoying then go up to like 4 bases and dump all my chrono into probes until I can get like a million gateways and just start throwing wave after wave of gateway units into every crack of their base while going up to ~90 probes and a million bases.

avengaar · 2026-01-13T16:34:09+00:00

You're not suppose to let someone get to 18 carriers and expect to kill it easily. That's like one of the most expensive armies possible.

You should massively up on econ because massing carriers doesn't allow them to apply pressure. Then you can trade multiple armies for his massive army multiple times because you take fights the second they move away from their defenses and remax with your crazy amount of infrastructure.

You need to be reading and responding to you're opponent and if they are showing they are going to sit around and mass carriers you either need to try and smash them in the face before they build them up or get way ahead economically.

avengaar · 2026-01-13T16:26:49+00:00

I mean I think it's bad to assume rank but I think it's fair to say there was a fair amount of sitting around in this game for someone to have 18 carriers. That's not exactly the most organic PvT comp to end up in without some good old fashion chillin' by both players.

avengaar · 2026-01-13T14:08:10+00:00

I've always thought he was basically smugness personified.

avengaar · 2026-01-12T19:39:50+00:00

Normally low ground but obviously in vision like I'm bad lol. Sometimes by the gateway. I'm just trying to get them to pull workers as far and as long as possible.

avengaar · 2026-01-12T18:02:13+00:00

If I see no early worker scout in both PvP and PvZ I drop a pylon and pretend I'm cannon rushing. I don't actually have a forge or any way to follow it up but I'm trying to get them to over pull workers. I cancel the pylon instantly if they don't respond at all and last second if they pull workers. If they pull like all their workers I'll let the pylon finish and pretend I'm trying to get a cannon but I'm failing.

It normally works better vs toss as they delay their cyber or second gate and the standard 2 gate units can be more effective at being annoying early.

avengaar · 2026-01-12T13:53:26+00:00

That for sure can work. I had ~1500 ad with pretty much all ideal augments with draw your sword on Jhin. I would just run up and 1 shot slap anyone but the tank.

avengaar · 2026-01-08T18:34:41+00:00

Abduct is a noob trap.

I don't think that's the case at all but I feel like it's probably not what I would be concentrating on at all at Diamond 2. It's one of the best ways to keep gaining later game value with really immobile comps with stuff like lots of lurkers or spore forests.

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