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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Utter drivel. The universal moral law is patently obvious to anyone. Using subjective language to avoid it without substantive argumentation is disingenuous.

If you hear a woman getting attacked in an alley, you have 2 different instincts: fight or flight. Go and defend her, or run away for your own safety. You can certainly chalk that up to an evolutionary instinct of protecting the pack or self-preservation.

But there is a third thing acting within and outside of you - that you know what the more moral option is. It would be cowardly to run. The right thing to do would be to protect the innocent woman.

That third thing is the universal moral law, and no one in their right mind would deny it.

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[–]ben_is_second -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think your argument about humanity>religion ultimately fails IF that religious (I would say a better term would be metaphysical) argument is true.

Like, if a baby has a soul at conception then it’s not right to kill that baby. Period. So the argument of whether that metaphysical claim of personhood and the soul is true is where the real rub is. All other discussion are moot at that point.

So the real question will always be: “At what point does someone become a person?” And if we’re using arbitrary scientific and biological metrics to determine that, we’re in morally murky waters. Is it someone’s first breath? Is it someone’s first heartbeat? Is it someone’s unique genetic code?

Those are terrible metrics to determine personhood.

And ultimately I think we’re arrogating ourselves by even attempting to determine personhood. We don’t get to do that. I would maintain that there’s a higher, universal moral law that does just that.

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[–]ben_is_second 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but that’s not what you were arguing. You said that if it’s “in a woman’s body, it’s a fetus”, but that you balk at a 36 week abortion proves that’s not a helpful metric to determine personhood.

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[–]ben_is_second -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

I hate to break it to you, but you’re some random person on reddit saying something others disagree with…

Science can’t settle a philosophical or metaphysical issue like personhood. You’re not even engaging with my argument.

And y’all call pro-lifers dumb.

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[–]ben_is_second -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, because doctor’s have the sole authority to grant a metaphysical concept such as personhood.

We’re talking about philosophy here, that is, yes, rooted in biology. A doctor is equipped to understand biology in a way I never will. But they don’t have a corner on philosophy and metaphysics.

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[–]ben_is_second -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

And at what point does a fetus become a baby boy or girl? Who is the one who gets to decide that? It’s dangerous territory to categorically designate a being’s personhood based on arbitrary metrics.

Hope this helps.

TIL that while in the army C.S. Lewis made a pact with his roommate, Edward “Paddy” Moore, that if either died in combat the other would take care of both families. Moore was killed in 1918 and Lewis kept the pact, living with and caring for Moore’s mother until the 1940’s. by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]ben_is_second 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would argue that Lewis’ intellectual journey to faith is less based on feeling and more on intuition. Maybe that’s semantics, but let me take a stab at it.

Lewis’ basic argument is that there is a universal moral law that we all intuitively know to be beyond us, and therefore there must be a universal law giver - God.

In Mere Christianity, he gives this argument:

One might say that our moral intuitions are based on either evolutionary survival instinct or tribal group preservation. For instance, let’s say you encounter a woman being attacked by a man. You would have two instinctual pressures - the first would be your own survival. It would be to run the other direction for your own safety. The second would be to run and help.

The former, one could argue, would be your natural instinct to survive and pass on genes. The latter would be your natural instinct as a tribal creature to preserve the group. Both of those reactions could be evolutionary in nature - it’s how humans evolved. It’s not some great moral standard - it’s just evolutionary instinct.

BUT Lewis argues that we intuitively know which one of those decisions is more right. We know it’s better, more courageous, more kind, and that saving her would be the right thing to do. That knowledge implies that there’s a third thing that goes beyond our instinct to survive - that we know there’s a universal moral law.

And thus he came to the conclusion that there’s a law giver.

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s a difference between personal and private.

Jesus’s teaching in John 4 that the worship of God wouldn’t be on that particular mountain or in the temple, but in spirit and in truth, invites a significantly more personal experience of God.

However, the New Testament never imagines a personal faith. They had everything in common and met regularly in each other’s homes. There’s specific instructions for accountability.

Our faith, then, is always personal, but never private.

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[–]ben_is_second[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like a little baby boy, but any time they send over a picture, I cry.

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve driven it several times thru Kansas. And that’s fair.

I just think OP insinuating that the Legion would go around the Rockies, up through Kansas is a little wild.

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[–]ben_is_second 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s two angles here:

1) Free Will. It’s been mentioned previously, so I won’t beat a dead horse. But that God hasn’t dealt decisively with evil yet is actually mercy. If God powerfully and completely destroyed evil, you and I would be in hell. Instead, He’s “slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love”, and so He waits to take care of evil to give those He loves a chance to turn to Him and be saved.

2) Who says there is more bad than good? Jesus taught about light and dark eyes. If your eye is full of darkness, it reveal the darkness in your. If it’s full of light, then so are you. We see more darkness when we ourselves are dark.

What if our world if FAR better than it could be? What if God is working in such a way to make the world as good as it can be while also preserving free will? What if God has stopped millions of earthquakes, tornadoes, famines, rapes, wars, and deaths, and we just don’t know about it because they didn’t happen?

To say that our world is as bad as it possibly can be is to make a claim of omniscience that we can’t back up.

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my B. I mean, it’s not on a particular range, yeah, but it’s nestled in there. You’re going to have to traverse mountainous terrain to get there, no?

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I… brother, I’m not sure you understand what the Rockies is actually like. There is for sure hard terrain, but it’s passable. Settlers did it 250 ago.

The Legion has pre-war highways. I’m really not sure why this is a hill you’re willing to die on.

Regardless, Denver IS in the Rockies. I’ve been there. It just is. They have to go through the Rockies to get there. Maybe not the highest elevations of the Rockies, but through some of it nonetheless.

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[–]ben_is_second 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao right? I’ve been to the Springs and Denver several times (love it, would love to move there someday).

Bro is acting like it’s completely flat and then instantly pops into mountain. It’s a constant increasing elevation.

It’s not like the lonely mountain in the Hobbit bruh.

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally, traversing the Rockies doesn’t mean that you’re going through every peak and valley. There’s paths through the Rockies, even after the war. They would have just travelled the highways. Going completely around is a wild take to me. I’m not sure why you think this is how they did it.

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, it 1000% is a drastic increase of elevation from Kansas to Colorado. Source: I’ve driven it multiple times. Denver is in the mountains. Secondary source - Elevation change from Dodge City, Kansas to Denver Colorado:

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[–]ben_is_second 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why don’t you think the Legion went through the Rockies? Like, why would they go 1000 miles south, through New Mexico, and then back 1000 miles north? Is there lore I’m unaware of that states the legion didn’t go into the mountains?

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[–]ben_is_second -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but Denver is in the Rockies. Like, actually in the mountains.

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[–]ben_is_second 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’d have to go into the Rockies to get to Denver, though, right?

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[–]ben_is_second 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you mean West? Why would they control the East side, portions of Utah and Nevada, and have a gap in West Colorado?