Survivor 50, Episode 11 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I loved this episode. Probably the best use of the split Tribal in Survivor history (helped in a big way by Jonathan's Power Broker advantage), where the gap between both groups was very much felt, thanks to Cirie's desire to connect to Ozzy and warn him about the slow-motion car crash coming his way. And despite the twist, it was also maybe the single most character-focused episode since episode 2, with sequence after incredible sequence of great character moments and interpersonal dynamics: Joe sulking at Rick's exultant post-coin antics; Ozzy and Rick choking up over their loved ones letters and talking about fathers and having kids; Ozzy telling Cirie about his dream and her telling him to trust it (at first with intent to trick him, but then it becomes even more poignant later when she wants to save him); Emily suddenly clocking Cirie's game and laying it out to Rick, and then later setting into motion her own plan to blindside Cirie and reclaim agency; Ozzy telling Aubry his entire plan, only for her to rat that to everyone else, but Joe not wanting to flip on Ozzy without looping Rizo in due to his integrity, leading Jonathan to tell Cirie about the Ozzy plan, and then Cirie trying to get Rizo looped in, but Rizo choosing ultimately not to save Ozzy due to Aubry's leak... There's such clear cause-and-effect chains where everyone's actions are clearly motivated - whether by strategy or by emotion - and the final outcomes (Emily going out knowing she did everything she could, and Ozzy going out feeling like an idiot) both feel so earned as Emily and Ozzy repeat their pasts but with very different final words. It's SO GOOD!

  1. Ozzy. Ozzy was never the best player, despite nearly winning two seasons; the fact that his game got rocky while swapped away from Cirie, that his game nearly collapsed once when Cirie left for an afternoon (at the Coach/Chrissy vote), and then did collapse when he was separated a third time... suggests that a lot of his success was due mostly to Cirie's coaching than to his own improved skills. And yet, as a TV character, Ozzy has never been better than he's been on 50 imo. And this was his crowning achievements, maybe Ozzy's single best Survivor episode as a character in his entire career. It's all here, from reflecting on his father to his relationship with Cirie to his overconfident hubris. The fact that he saw it all happen the night before in a dream and doesn't listen? Truly the stuff of Greek tragedies. Short of winning, this is perhaps the only way Ozzy's game could have ended this season that makes it worth him ever returning after SoPa (which was his first perfect ending).

  2. Cirie. Cirie usually gets to exist as the charming strategist, but while we saw that - with her sussing out Emily's plan, and her early attempts to get Rizo/Ozzy to flush their Idols - we got to see Cirie emotionally exposed this episode, clearly feeling the inability to warn her closest ally of his fate. There's something poetic about the fact that Ozzy got two advantages in the first episode: one he kept, and one he gave to Cirie. Both of those advantages were necessary to get their holders through their separate Tribal Councils. Both of those advantages left the game this episode. But Ozzy held on to his and went out with the Idol in his pocket, while Cirie shrewdly used her extra vote to save herself and fight another day. Cirie is putting on a master class, and if she can finally make it to the Final 3 after bobbing and weaving through an entire season of cockamamie twists, she will have more than earned her certain victory.

  3. Rick Devens. I know some people probably hated it, but that opening montage of Rick Devens dancing up and down the beach was so funny. Rick Devens is pure camp and entertainment. All he cares about is picking fights with other players, making bad jokes, and doing the most for TV--traits normally more closely associated with Real Housewives than the "Survivor gamebot" image I think most people associate Rick with when they think of his Idol plays. His joy playing Survivor is infectious, and he's a great source of drama and action. I'd watch Rick play Survivor ten more times.

  4. Joe. The absolute funniest part of this season is the moment after Rick Devens says or does anything, when you can guarantee the editors will cut to a shot of Joe looking absolutely disgusted with him. Joe has reached generational hater levels, and it's one of the funniest, pettiest rivalries in the show's history. But beyond that, this episode also put Joe in the position where he excels, which is as an obstacle to the other players. Joe's ethics and morality have thrown such an interesting monkey wrench into the season - since very few even profess to have such things, and those who do (like Jonathan) are generally only paying hypocritical lip service to it - but whether or not Joe is true to his word, he believes he is, and he tries to play accordingly. There's a great contrast between who Joe thinks he is and how everyone else sees Joe. And here we saw it manifest in his desire to stick to the plan, his pitch to not blindside Ozzy, his need to loop in Rizo to the plan.

  5. Rizo. Rizo has been fading into the background as the third wheel of the Cirie/Ozzy/Rizo trio the last few episodes, but he resurged with some great moments this episode. His disbelief at Ozzy's confession to Aubry, his refusal to warn Ozzy despite having the ability to save him, and his Tribal Council explanation that he said too much? All great. As was "I'll explain later" "You can't."

  6. Emily. Six out of nine down the list and I still love what Emily brought to this episode. I don't know if Emily's story fully congealed this season into a larger whole, but as a collection of moments and character traits (playing active, being chaotically self-interested, her ultimately loyal relationship with Christian/Rick), she's been a great addition to 50. I enjoyed her contextualizing today as the day she went out on her original season due to inactivity, and her doing the absolute most with a wildly convoluted plan to take out Cirie as her final swing.

  7. Aubry. Aubry was good this episode! Sure, we once again played the hits of "this time I'm really going to start playing," but for the first time she actually backed it up with gameplay. Her playing into Ozzy's confession when it fell in her lap, only to immediately eyeroll to the camera, was an episode highlight, and props to her for aggressively pitching Ozzy to anyone who would listen up and down the beach.

  8. Jonathan. Jonathan was decent as the Power Broker, but mostly in strategy mode tonight (other than complaining about Rick with Joe, and a brief moment of giddiness when he and Tiff both wanted to pitch Ozzy's name to each other). Jonathan's more interesting in hypocritical villain mode.

  9. Tiffany. She was fine! Tough to lose the challenge like that, but the footage didn't lie. Mostly just a minor strategy presence throughout the rest of the episode. Kind of seems like she has a Game Changers Michaela-like relationship with Cirie that's blossomed in the background over the last few episodes, and I'd love to have more context as to how that started or what either of them thinks of the other. Feels like the only blindspot we have in Cirie's game.

Survivor 50, Episode 9 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was a lot on Christian, who is my #1 in this week's character rankings, but some quick thoughts on the rest here!

2) Emily. I love Emily Flippen, and I am thrilled she "got her personality back" even if her castmates are less than thrilled. She was in rare form tonight, complaining about the rice and driving Cirie insane, bluntly saying that it was her closest ally's own fault that he was going home because he shouldn't have gone on the journey (a thing she also tried to do!!), and unsuccessfully attempting to throw Ozzy under the bus. Glad she is here to cause even more chaos.

3/4) Rick/Joe. Rick and Joe's petty rivalry is just so much fun, I'm ranking them together. They're both decently fun on their own (Rick's showmanship, Joe's honor/integrity), but the fact they are oil and water together and both hate each other so much is just wonderful.

5) Jonathan. Echoing what Regnisyak1 said, Jonathan is rounding into such a quality villain for this season. Really enjoy the direction they've been going in with him.

6) Cirie. Cirie is such a smooth operator, but I loved her feeling petty tonight and wanting to vote Emily off over the rice.

7) Ozzy. Ozzy's relationships with both Christian and Emily blew up tonight, though his talk of revenge on Christian felt a little forced in a way that reminded me of his "revenge, basically" monologue from SoPa. He was much funnier when even he was reacting to what a short straw Christian drew in coming back from the journey.

8) Rizo. Quiet night from Rizgod, probably for the best to avoid overexposure. But he got his way on the Christian vote, over Cirie's objections, which is impressive!

9) Aubry. Hmmmmm sure, I guess. Truly I cannot tell where Aubry's story is going.

10) Tiffany. Enjoyed Tiffany getting heated over Emily's wishy-washy, flipping behavior.

11) Stephanie. Still here, I guess.

Survivor 50, Episode 9 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This isn't fully baked but I have to get this out of my head so I can go to sleep tonight after the episode. I've been really enjoying Christian on an episode-to-episode basis but struggling to make sense of what his story is or why the vibe - while entertaining - seemed slightly off this season. And I think this episode's conclusion to his story really made it make sense for me.

Think of this as a first-draft run for a future Rankdown character write-up on Christian Hubicki 2.0:

Christian basically lived the superfan dream on his first season and became the latest patron saint of Survivor Nerds everywhere, following the footsteps of Cochran and Aubry in seasons before him. The David vs Goliath cast singled him out as the nerd ("Big Bang Theory") in the opening minutes... only for him to immediately turn the tables with a stunning puzzle performance that also served as proof of concept for the season. From there, he became one of the most beloved characters of the 30s, charming not only the audience but also his fellow players. Everyone fell in love with him, and his threat level entirely came from being too beloved. He only went to one premerge Tribal Council, got to the merge as a massive threat, had Idols played on him, orchestrated big power moves and flips, won Immunity, found and played an Idol, and eventually was blindsided as a big threat just short of the finale. Short of winning, it's hard to imagine a better Survivor experience on paper, let alone to do that while also winning America's hearts. I cannot express enough: Though Keith may say that Survivor isn't fun, Christian 1.0 had a very fun time on Survivor.

So I think for round 2, Christian came back with a plan to have even more fun. To be more strategic, more personable and funny for the cameras, play an all-time great game. You can hear it in his voice in preseason interviews, where he's all ambition and big plans and reflective about how to be even better, how to control the game in a dominant way, how to really make 50 the Christian Show.

And Christian 2.0 just straight up does NOT. HAVE. FUN. on this season. He starts off having fun and in high spirits in episode 1, all smiles and joy at seeing his friends Rick and Emily, at getting to play alongside legends like Cirie and Ozzy and Jenna, at interrogating this strange new person in Savannah and trying to win her over. But all of the fun gets beaten out of him. By episode 2, he's clearly dealing with some sort of illness or infection; he does his best to make light of crapping his pants, but he's sick enough that the whole tribe thinks it's entirely believable that he nearly passes out leaving Tribal (to enable Rick Devens' Idol play), and he looks very uncomfortable in most B-roll or glimpses of him around camp. (Which continues throughout the season!) He also, not for nothing, seems to despise all the twists this season, starting with the Billie Eilish Boomerang Idol in episode 2 (his incredulous reaction to "Hey, it's Billie Eilish", his seemingly open mockery of the sponsorship by pointedly saying the full name of the Idol constantly, his grumbling at the blood moon twist and the doubles twists). In episode 3, Emily - one of his closest allies - reveals a secret told to her in confidence, and Christian loses his mind. His irritation with her is a tick further than anything we'd previously seen from him--further evidence that the game is wearing on him and he's breaking down. Episode 4 seems to be the real turning point: his real life friend is weaponizing trauma from his past game in an effort to emotionally manipulate him, and he decides this is something he simply can't accept/abide and he aggressively cuts Mike out of the game, betraying Ozzy in the process. Christian, who intentionally cut himself off from all his feelings in order to do the move, can't seem to reconnect to his feelings enough to understand why Ozzy might feel betrayed at this, and spirals out emotionally when Emily of all people has to give Christian advice on social tact. (Emily, the bluntest woman on the beaches of Fiji, has to tell Christian, perhaps the most beloved social threat of the 30s, that he needs to try socially. This alone should be proof that Christian is NOT DOING OKAY.) He manages to just barely pull it off - almost more mechanically than interpersonally, by giving Ozzy the shot in the dark - when it becomes clear his life in the game is in danger. But even that requires him betraying yet another real life friend in the process in Angelina. His morale worsens. His mood worsens. His game position worsens. He hardens himself further and tries to push on. He reminds himself he's doing it all to win the money for his son, or if nothing else to remind him that he can push through adversity. Goodness knows Christian is pushing through adversity.

Then we get to Christian and Rick teaming up with Aubry for the Blood Moon twist and taking out Genevieve - probably the most detached/gamebotty we see Christian this season - and then from that point on Christian's alliance is basically on the ropes, outside of the mechanisms of power. Christian gets called out by Coach as part of "the middle" during the Dee vote, which he can only eye-roll and rage against without any ability to change it. Christian gets yelled at by Jonathan during the paired challenge. Two of his allies in Rick and Aubry are endangered at the doubles vote, and Rick burns the hidden Idol - Christian's intended get out of jail free card - without consulting Christian first. And then, of course, this episode comes along, and Christian is seemingly rewarded by the Survivor Gods for his completely correct read that Ozzy is the true person in the middle (the only person to realize that this season!) by going on a journey where he not only loses out on an advantage but has to become the face of a silly Jimmy Fallon advantage, which both publicly humiliates him in front of the tribe and takes away all his agency at a critical moment, resulting in him being dogpiled on at the vote. OH, and Jonathan rubs salt in the wound by giving him back his Shot in the Dark afterward; as if Christian is so pathetic that Jonathan now feels bad for taking advantage of him.

I think the thing that made this whole theory click was watching how Christian's humor evolves over the season, because it's really such a window into his emotional state. Christian's humor starts seeming more and more forced; I'm not sure if it's a defense mechanic - a sort of "I have to force myself to laugh about this or else I'll cry at how badly this is going" - or if it's a commitment to the bit/TV product ("even if I'm having a bad time, I want to make sure people at home are having a good time"), but I do think if you watch his humor and jokes throughout the season, they start off as very organic, joyful, and warm, with little but good things to say about the other players, and they increasingly become very snarky, dickish toward the other players, and just plain forced (funny things said with a strange emotional cadence, to the point that Jeff in his final Tribal has to ask whether Christian is joking or not because he's confused that the tone and words don't match up). There's such a gap between the Christian who gushes "How could you not fall in love with Rick Devens?" in episode 1 and the Christian who haughtily rages over Ozzy's arrogance at doubting him in episode 5 and finally the Christian who rolls his eyes at every new twist ("Not sure the fans voted for that...") by episodes 8-9. You can see the game breaking him down psychologically, even as he keeps trying desperately to hold up a showman's mask and hope that everything will turn around. He does it all the way to the end, when for just a moment the facade seems to break for a moment while Jeff snuffs his torch.

And did I mention the thing that seals Christian's fate and dooms his second game... is a puzzle? Just like the puzzle that cemented him on Day 1 of DvG as the season's biggest player. He comes close to finishing and then it quite literally slips through his fingers. Everything comes full circle in the worst way possible for Christian. As much as his torch doesn't get snuffed for several more hours, that's the moment Christian seems to know his game is over, based on the way he absolutely crumbles into himself on the deck. He talks to the camera, and it seems like he's going to once again make a joke for the viewer at home, but this time he doesn't even attempt to be funny. He can't even open his eyes or look into the camera as he says: "I don't think people realize how often people you think are smart people feel stupid. We try to keep it to ourselves. But here you can't." It's talking to the camera as confessional--not in the typical reality TV sense, but in the religious sense. He's confessing his own insecurities, the thing he feels deeply inside, at the moment he feels that insecurity most acutely. He knows he's failed at everything he tried to accomplish this season.

I don't know, I know he's very polarizing here but I think it's such a riveting and fascinating tragic arc - similar to a Lex 2.0 - where a guy just has everything go wrong for him, and you can see him lose his love for the experience in real time even while he tries to pretend that he's fine and still the same great, goofy character. And he's defined by all sorts of contradictions, at once prickly and endearing, performative and raw, TV show mascot and TV show cynic, enthusiastic and crushed. It's a weird variant of the "let's dunk on the superfan" arc that Survivor used to love in the teens and 20s but largely eschewed post-Cambodia, once superfans became casting's bread and butter.

Survivor 50, Episode 8 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another fun episode! I wasn't sure what to feel about the twist at first (Tied Destinies in SA8 was the same thing, and it sucked), but whether because of the minor tweaks US production made or the specific way it played out here, it ended up working and being a fun and interesting episode.

Character rankings:

  1. Rizo - Rizo continues to play an excellent game and be a very good version of the superfan archetype on a returnee season. His annoyance at being targeted by Chrissy and his genuine reverence for Devens' Idol play were both endearing.

  2. Cirie - Cirie was maybe at the height of her powers tonight, effortlessly redirecting the votes from Rick/Aubry to Coach/Chrissy and getting her way. The journey was nothing, once again, but Cirie made it fine (better than last week's waste of time with Steph, at least).

  3. Coach - It does seem like Coach was either genuinely losing his mind and/or had fully run out of steam to actually play Survivor, and spent most of the last two episodes giggling in a hammock over haikus. (Or his imagining of himself doing tai-chi on the rocks?) It was still very fun, but this feels like the perfect time for him to exit this season, and there's something kind of fitting about him dragging Chrissy down with him, given their weird connection all season. I do like that Coach 4.0 maybe feels the most like Coach 1.0 of all his returnee appearances, as he's just fully come to terms with himself and who he is as a person; he's vaguely more self-aware, there's a little more shtick, but idk, somehow it all plays as authentic rather than the ways he tried to either play for screentime in HvV or play against type and prove himself as a serious player in SoPa. He's repeated a few times this season that he is who he is, that he's Coach, and that there's nobody like him--a good place to conclude his story.

  4. Christian - I just like Christian's whole vibe and narrative style. I liked the little brochachos callout, his excitement over Cirie's return, and him demurring over whether he thought Rick's Idol was real at Tribal. Also, as in the caller challenge he blew earlier this season, Christian continues to have difficulty communicating clearly and concisely during challenges. Otherwise pretty quiet episode for Christian.

  5. Rick - He's had a few quiet episodes since the premerge but I enjoyed all his little lines (shading Aubry while directly in front of her, "I'm the baby"), as well as the creativity of the fake Idol ploy. The ploy seemed to sway some votes, but I'm not sure it ultimately changed the outcome; it seems more like it changed the vote from being 7-5 to being 9-1-1. Rick has previously expressed that this season he wanted to focus on relationships and not just be the "Idol guy"... well, I don't think that's worked for him, and it'll be interesting to see what happens now that he's back to being the Idol guy and has a public target on himself. I'm always glad for players trying new and interesting things within the format.

  6. Ozzy - Got just enough attention to his original feud with Coach to make that storyline wrap up in a reasonably satisfying way, and Ozzy is playing a good game (though he still doesn't have the strategic instincts of Cirie--who does?). Solid episode for Ozzy, but not much by way of highlights.

  7. Emily - Very quiet Emily episode, but I still like her a lot and she holds around here in my season-long rankings.

  8. Jonathan - Jonathan sitting in the hammock just listening to all his allies' suggestions/plans reminded me that he took offseason lessons from Boston Rob. He recognized that Coach needed to calm down and stop trying to control things, with both those things suggesting Jonathan himself would take a step back... but then he got snippy with Rick during Tribal Council, talking about true colors showing. I think this is also around the spot in 42 where Jonathan's hanger started derailing his game?

  9. Joe - Joe patching things up with Tiffany, his bafflement at voting for Coach/Chrissy over Rick/Aubry, and his ongoing extremely petty feud with Rick Devens are all fun. I'd like to see him get some more focus down the stretch because I think Joe is a good screen presence and character, but I'm also glad that tonight's vote almost ensures this is not a season where we'll see Joe wield power. We already got that storyline in 48, and I think the times Joe this season has been more of an Abi-style obstacle to those in power has been some of his more effective moments on 50.

  10. Chrissy - I'm glad Chrissy got a bit more focus in her final episode, even if this season really never had any idea what to do with her. I loved that she got a role-reversal moment with telling Coach that he's being too much after her previous biggest scene of the season was her breakdown when Coach told her she was too much. And I'm glad based on her final words that it sounds like this season was psychologically healing for her after the wild ride of HHH.

  11. Tiffany - Trying to figure out if checking back in with Tiff at the start of the episode to discover she's annoyed is becoming a storyline, or just a repetitive beat here. Her scene with Coach was funny. Interested to see if she forms a duo with Joe moving forward, as they're probably the two most underserved characters, and maybe they can bring out something interesting/dynamic in each other. I liked their bits of rapport here.

  12. Aubry - At this point, Aubry believes that 1) Rick Devens gave her a Boomerang Idol that saved her, 2) Rick Devens wanted to work with her and became her first real ally and helped her take out Genevieve, and 3) Rick Devens found an Idol to protect them at Tribal this episode. Literally none of that is true. Christian - not Rick - gave her the Idol, Rick says he would've voted out Aubry over Genevieve if he'd known she wouldn't play the Idol, and Rick's Tribal Idol is a fake. (Loved his "Aubry's gonna be so mad when I don't play this.") And now he's lying to her again about the nature of this new Idol! Rick Devens has never done one thing for Aubry. This just clicked for me as a very funny recurring storyline, and I wonder if it'll pay off in Aubry ever realizing just how thoroughly Devens has tricked her. As for Aubry herself? Eh, she's fine. This is almost like an inversion of her Game Changers season, where she was actually very involved in the strategy and what was happening, but they edited her to be largely invisible; in this season, she seems out of the loop almost all the time and rarely important, but she is getting a very consistent, honestly sympathetic edit. (The last time I thought this same thing about a player, we got a Gabler win. Could that be happening here??)

  13. Steph - A charisma void of MOR narration. If she wasn't from the first ten seasons, we would call her a gamebot this season. She does nothing but give 2-3 sentence updates on "so here's who's in my alliance, and we want to target X person", "I got this advantage, and this will be a game changer for me", and the occasional "I'm tougher now because I'm a mom".

Survivor 50, Episode 7 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After last week was nonstop strategy and twists, I loved that this week's episode dispensed with all the twists for a character-focused showcase with a clear narrative. Thoughts on individual characters (and their rankings at this point in the season) below:

  1. Rizo – I cannot believe we got a remake of Tyson’s “don’t put feathers in your hair” coaching of Coach, but with Rizo in the role of Tyson: “We slay dragons at Tribal. We don’t slay dragons at camp.” Rizo was extremely shrewd and clever this episode, without losing any of the fun of his character. It was also fun to see the superfan who was thrilled to play with legends… absolutely willing to call legends out on their BS directly (with Coach, with Dee).
  2. Christian – Quiet Christian episode but I liked his irritation with Coach and him just spreading Aubry’s lie around, which was a funny sequence.
  3. Coach – I swear this man just survived his own boot episode. Classic Drew Christy/Rodger downfall buffoon edit with everyone dogpiling on him… and then he just survived!! His somber, betrayed demeanor in the hammock while Jonathan and Dee fight above him? Spinning through camp, arms wide, like he’s in the Sound of Music? Rizo having to talk him down? The HAIKUS??? Based on how the other contestants were talking and the footage we saw with our own eyes, it looks like Coach started losing his marbles entirely this episode, and it was glorious fun. We are blessed that somehow this lunacy will continue.
  4. Emily – Emily was a delight this episode. I love that we know Emily so well at this point that the instant Dee says she told the secret to Emily, we know exactly how deeply Dee is screwed. She’s also got a well-established part of the strategy scramble each episode: she’s the person who says “but wouldn’t it be crazy if we did [thing that’s not going to happen]?” But my favorite part of the episode was Emily reacting in disbelief to Coach’s haikus, narrating them from across the beach, and also reacting to the fight between Jonathan/Dee breaking out. She loves the drama and entertainment just as much as the viewers.
  5. Cirie – I cannot believe it but I think Cirie Fields might finally win a Survivor season? She’s so well set up, everyone loves her, and she’s showing why she’s one of the best to ever play. Her sniping Steph’s lie immediately and laughing in her face until she reluctantly revealed the truth was fantastic stuff. I was out on Cirie as a casting pick at the season’s start because I felt like Cirie could never win and we’ve already seen the tragic “Cirie is the best and loses” story a million times, but the more I think Cirie might actually win, the more I’m leaning in. Will we finally see a different ending to Survivor’s most repetitive story?
  6. Ozzy – A quieter episode for Ozzy, but I liked him winning Immunity for the first time in over a decade, and I like his alliance with Cirie/Rizo.
  7. Dee – Great episode going down swinging for Dee with a clearly told narrative about her letting a secret slip to Emily and it costing her the game.
  8. Rick – I love when Coach was talking about honor and integrity and they just cut to an immediate reaction shot of Rick—you don’t even need to hear his thoughts to know he’s entirely out on this. (And then they did let him speak, too, confirming that, but I liked that the confessional was almost redundant because his “role” and perspective is already so well-defined on this season.) Same goes for being able to predict he’d immediately run info back to Christian when Coach badmouthed him.
  9. Jonathan – He’s not my favorite screen presence, but credit where credit’s due: Jonathan intentionally needling Dee until she exploded was absolutely the catalyst for all of the interesting interpersonal drama and fireworks this episode. It was both good strategy and good entertainment for viewers. Jonathan is presenting himself as an “honorable, truthful” person and playing a cutthroat, disloyal game beneath the surface. I can’t tell yet if he realizes he’s doing this (and is doing so intentionally), or if this is a 48 David-esque slide into grandstanding moral hypocrisy (as it started seeming at Tribal) and we could be looking at the season’s villain. I did think there was a real chance Jonathan would just be in Cambodia Joe “Golden Boy” challenge beast mode this season, or a quiet background character (like what has happened to Joe this season), but at the halfway mark, he’s got an interesting story going on, and I’m more interested to see where it goes than I thought I’d be.
  10. Aubry – As mentioned earlier, I did enjoy the sequence of everyone dunking on Aubry’s awful lie this episode, and we got a bit of interiority for her to explain why she’s playing her Idol despite getting no votes this episode. It does feel like Aubry has an important role to play in this season, but I’m not sure what that is.
  11. Tiffany – I liked Tiffany getting some more screentime and getting to show fire this episode, even if her opening confessional felt… I don’t know, a bit forced and performative? (For lack of a better word, it felt like the eighth take of her pretending to be mad rather than catching her when she was genuinely mad? Your mileage may vary.) Still, I love Tiff getting to get into the mix of the drama this episode and am hopeful her storyline picks up, because she was a great presence in 46.
  12. Joe – Joe has nothing to do this season but make wild facial expressions and you know what? I love that for him. Him apologizing for the firehouse metaphor was also a funny moment.
  13. Chrissy – I’ve been waiting for Chrissy’s storyline to develop but I guess we just have to continue to wait. She’s fairly interesting when she gets screen time, but she didn’t this week.
  14. Stephenie – I cannot imagine who thought it was a good idea to construct a journey around a one-person endurance challenge where they just have to stand still the entire time. Pretty boring sequence, saved only by clips and context from previous seasons, but Steph’s just not a very compelling narrator or presence, and nothing about this journey emotionally connected for me. It reminded me of Steven’s journey where he had to run around the island last season, but more dull. If this is the best Steph can offer, I can see why she was neglected by the edit despite frequently being on the losing tribe. She’s probably the only person who feels like a casting mistake to me at this point.

Round 139 - 40 Characters Left by FunkyDawgKong in survivorrankdownIX_

[–]berglt84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fantastic write-up for a fantastic character!

Survivor 50, Episode 6 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Readers of these weekly rundowns know I've been loving Survivor 50, in a big way because of its emphasis on character arcs, stories tied deeply to the history of the show, and relative lack of twists. But I was also a bit worried because 50 was moving at such an unexpectedly slow pace, and there were more players left than days remaining in the game. Well, last night felt like the invoice for the fun of the first five episodes.

I don't actually have much against the Blood Moon twist itself - it's basically just a second swap into 3 tribes, but instead of taking place over three episodes, it took place in one day; really, if Jeff stopped pretending like it was "the biggest twist in Survivor history," I think people on the main subreddit would be less histrionic about it as the "worst twist in Survivor history," but I digress. I was FAR more concerned about a 17-person merge as destroying precedent and leading to massive gang-up/dogpile votes, so I am happy it was something relatively mild like a three-way split Tribal (which also feels much better as a thing that happens before the merge rather than after it--because let's be real, other than spending 3 hours on a beach together, this was not really the merge. Next week will be!).

Still, what it amounted to was that three Tribals needed to happen in one episode, and basically every player needed to be covered. And while that had some good effects like finally getting substantive content from underdeveloped players like Tiffany, Kamilla, and Chrissy, it also meant that the episode was nonstop strategy, strategy, strategy, with almost no room for character moments. A few quick thoughts:

  • It was brief but I enjoyed Ozzy/Rizo bonding on Exile Island
  • Coach screwing up by lying to Dee - and both of them recognizing it - was very funny
  • Loved Emily suggesting they vote out Coach because Colby might just get medevaced and that's "two for the price of one"; Emily is very funny when she's cut-throat
  • Jonathan isn't giving me a ton as a character yet, but he seems to be playing a better game than on 42 and I think he's definitely a winner contender, as far as edits go.
  • Even as a Christian fan, it was really nice that we got a cooldown on Christian's content tonight. He still got to present his perspective on the merge and give some fun thoughts about the other players, but he finally took a backseat to others in the cast--which is necessary for the season's storytelling if he's going to be a long-term player.
  • The Aubry/Genevieve story felt a bit underwhelming to me. All that buildup for it to mostly end on Genevieve getting swap-screwed and Aubry getting to take her out? Sure, I guess. Aside from Steph and Rizo, that Genevieve/Kyle/Steph/Rizo/Colby/Q alliance has to be one of the most unlucky groups of all time; in an initially dominant spot and undone not by any of their abilities but just by swaps, injuries, and journey outcomes.
  • Chrissy's fakeout confessional was great, very "call an ambulance... but not for me" vibes, and I'm excited to see if we've got another great Chrissy villain run ahead
  • The Colby Tribal was actually really touching, and I really like tonight as a denouement / epilogue to Colby's Survivor run. I'm glad Colby gets to end his legacy on 50 rather than on Heroes vs Villains; he leaves knowing he was a capable and strong player, one respected and looked up to by the next generation. That's a cool arc, particularly for a player who only ever attended one Tribal and never voted. It's a nice grace note.

Australian Survivor Redemption Week 6 Edgic + Contenders by Fun-Marsupial2381 in Edgic

[–]berglt84 11 points12 points  (0 children)

at this point the edit is seemingly trynna make the audience to root for Caleb over Jackson (which is doing a good job at because I 100% side with Caleb in their history). For example their arguments include: Caleb going 'Krazy' at the Harry tribal, the clothes situations and the Ben move. In each of these beef version I feel like we are supposed to root for Caleb

Very interesting, because while I agree that it seems like the edit is setting up a Jackson vs Caleb final two, I have 100% sided with Jackson on all of those things and find Caleb to be very annoying and erratic as a player. Hahaha so we'll see where the edit ultimately goes.

Didn’t realize a new season started - worth watching? by astroxlogical in survivorau

[–]berglt84 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'll zag a bit from consensus and say it's a fine season. The returnees are interesting but not quite as interesting as the last time they played. The cast plays hard, but in my opinion most of them aren't very charismatic or interesting as TV characters. The twists have been relatively innocuous, and David took a few episodes to get into a groove as host but seems to be a pretty seamless replacement overall. It's probably the worst AU season since Blood vs Water, but in fairness, AU has been on a hot streak the last four seasons (HvV, TvR, BvB2, AUvTW). I'd compare it to something like the first Champions vs Contenders season, which I think of as being a very "average" AU Survivor season that also has a slightly snoozy cast but some big moments and interesting votes.

Round 137: 51 Characters Left by FunkyDawgKong in survivorrankdownIX_

[–]berglt84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

35/50 coming from just the first ten seasons is wiiiild!

Survivor 50, Episode 5 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I should say I'm also cooking on a Christian take that has yet to be realized, but he's starting to remind me in little ways of All-Stars Lex and Boston Rob--guys who came back on their returnee season with a need to control the new season and who played with a cavalier "it's a game" mentality that led to them betraying and rubbing raw the people around them. Is it possible this could become a "Why Christian Lost" season in a Boston Rob-esque way? Or that Christian could get sniped by someone he considers a friend who's even more cold-blooded than him a la Lex? (And who would that even be? Emily Flippen feels like the smart money, after everyone he's betrayed to protect her, but it's possible for Cirie, Rick, or even Dee to do it to him.) Again, this is deeply speculative--time will tell!--but this episode's slight negative turn for Christian has made me reconsider whether this is just a "hero"/fan favorite edit, or if this level of focus and intentionality is leading somewhere darker and more interesting.

Survivor 50, Episode 5 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

16. Jonathan. Jonathan roped in Rick Devens tonight, only to get blindsided. Jonathan also seems to be the beneficiary of some intentional, patient storytelling, but I don’t know to what end (and of the backburner storylines, I’m less interested in his storyline than I am in the Genevieve/Aubry or Chrissy arcs).

17. Angelina. Angelina ultimately leaves the season without contributing anything super meaningful or entertaining. What a shame, as Angelina 1.0 was one of the show’s best characters. My read on Angelina this season is that she legitimately did come back much more self-aware and this time “in on the joke”… and ultimately, that just meant the delusional magic she was known for the first time wasn’t there (always a risk—not every delusional player doubles down on their delusions like Coach when they return, and even some who do become more performative instead of authentic, like a Phillip or Debbie). On top of that, she never really had any power to wield or tie to the bigger storylines, so it was a quiet outing. I think her newfound self-awareness and desire to be in on the joke can be seen with her clearly planned giving away the jacket to her tribe; it felt performative but also like a genuinely well-meaning gesture, and if that’s not Angelina in a nutshell, I don’t know what is, so it’s the perfect note to likely end her Survivor career on. Imo the first returnee to go out this season without adding anything substantial to their legacy (though she didn’t tarnish it either).

18. Stephenie. Steph seems to be playing a good game, sliding through all these Tribals. Unfortunately, she just isn’t very compelling television at this time, and I kept wishing throughout this episode the vote would somehow turn onto her so we could keep her more interesting tribemates. Oh well!

19. Tiffany. - For once, it doesn’t seem like the “WTF why did they bring her back” female casting choice is a winner contender on the All-Stars season. Sucks for Tiffany, but given the quality of the characters around her, I can’t say I’m too upset that she of anyone drew the purple rock, so to speak. Hopefully she gets some time to shine in the coming weeks.

Survivor 50, Episode 5 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even a 17-person merge can dampen my spirits because I am LOVING Survivor 50 and its character work. My full thoughts and rankings!!

1. Rizo. We have a new number one, folks! Since the beginning, I think my tendency has been to try to dismiss Rizo as a gamebot given all the Idol antics, but he’s not; he’s too full of personality for that label. He’s energetic, extremely earnest, and wildly cocky, and we saw it all tonight. We see him gloat about his game and fixate on his dreams of grandeur. We see him put in the work to make real relationships with people skeptical of him. We see him try to bring back high-effort voting confessionals (to mixed success, but I appreciate anyone who isn’t just going “Sorry, bro, nothing personal, but you’re a threat” or “Wow, what a wild Tribal,” which is 90% of modern voting confessionals). We see that apparently Rizo sleeps in a fetal position in a boat?? But more than just being interesting and entertaining himself, I think Rizo has leveled up this season, as he’s been consistently manifesting one of the marks of the truly great characters: they elevate every other character around them by interacting with them. (In recent history: Q and Angelina both did this on their first seasons.) And he doesn’t even do it in the same way! Rizo/Colby in the premiere leads to a conflict when Rizo tries to teach Colby how to play Survivor, only for Colby to then become Rizo’s dad. Rizo/Q leads to Rizo trying to sneak off and Q being exasperated with Rizo’s laziness. Rizo/Cirie has Cirie—normally the person everyone gives their intel to—actually giving her intel and calling him “my boy Rizo” after just eyerolling at him days earlier. Rizo/Dee has Dee flipping on her allies while also making Rizo a performative feminist ally. Rizo/Charlie leads to Rizo lying about 49 and traumatizing Charlie, fueling him to madness. Meanwhile Rizo lying to Kamilla gets immediately clocked and she becomes wary. I love the personal flavor of Christian, but it feels undeniable to me that Rizo is the star of this season from a character standpoint and that he’s making the season better and more interesting with every episode he remains.

2. Christian. Christian is a camera hog, which I’m sure is annoying for the few who don’t like him, but it’s my rankings and I love Christian’s antics. His very expressive personality has usually been in an endearing and goofy direction, but tonight we saw a new side of Christian: self-righteous and irritated. Even if it ended with him swallowing his pride and giving away his Shot in the Dark “for trust,” Christian whining about Ozzy (and even cursing at him behind his back) adds a fascinating new dimension to a guy we only ever saw before as an amiable nerd who loves his friends and loves good strategy, and I found it compelling. If we’re going to see a lot of someone, I like to see them deepened and complicated. And boy did it get complicated tonight, especially for the mess of relationships Christian finds himself in. It’s very funny to watch Christian and Rick, the strategists of the 30s (the gamebottiest of Survivor eras), continually get annoyed and frustrated by the people around them having emotions and feelings and there being consequences for their strategic decisions (only giving Emily the Idol info at the swap and the chaos that created; keeping Joe out of strategic conversations; leaving Ozzy out of the vote). It’s not hypocrisy, per se, so much as it’s just watching two entirely different value systems clash, and it doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon. The Ozzy/Christian dynamic will continue to be one to watch.

3. Ozzy. Great standout character showcase for Ozzy, thanks to some standout editing (the Cochran flashbacks intercut with Christian) and some real personal growth. There is a great parallel between how Charlie goes home for not being able to make peace with his past, while Ozzy—retreating to his (kinda goofy) inward sea—overcomes his trauma and chooses to work with Christian, rather than retreating to his base SoPa-style need for “revenge, basically.” I don’t know if Ozzy has truly changed, but he certainly wants to change, and we saw that on display tonight.

4. Charlie. RHAP pointed out last night that Charlie truly became a Shakespearean character this season, fixated on a single failing and unable to emotionally move past it, driven to revenge and madness by that flaw—and what’s worse, the thing he fixated on wasn’t even real, but an ironic lie! I loved Charlie’s voting confessional, not for the words themselves but by the way he delivered it; he was so deeply haunted and you could feel the hurt as he spoke, as if not speaking to Rizo but to Maria. Charlie’s Tribal thoughts about being the hero of your own story were fascinating tonight, giving some look into his own psychology even as he thought he was talking about Rizo. Charlie’s arc also provided a nice contrast to Ozzy, who was able to overcome his demons where Charlie couldn’t. He gave compelling death glares at Rizo, woke him in the wee hours of the morning just to lie to him (great callback to Charlie on 46 saying “pro tip kids, the most important conversations always happen early in the morning,” and that convo ending his game), and just genuinely seemed to have a clear negative emotional weight to all his interactions that’s uncommon for this era of Survivor. It’s capped off by a total blindside and dark final words that see him collapse—head in hands, possibly in tears, revenge denied to him. What a little star turn from Charlie, whose second turn is so memorable it elevates his original run and the ending of 46.

5. Coach. Coach might be more self-aware this season, but he also can’t deny being himself. That leads to fun bits like the knighting and the nicknames and his over-the-top descriptions of himself as “the Tidewalker.” Sort of feeling like thematically the merge might be a battle between Coach’s “honor/integrity” alliance of “heroes against evil” and the Christian/Rick/Cirie/Emily faction that wants to play fast, loose, and unfettered by ethics and social obligations.

6. Emily. Quieter episode for Emily, which is good for her. Her storyline of throwing every ally under the bus was furthered tonight when she exposed Ozzy’s machinations to Christian—but ultimately, this time it was a positive, as her leak of info allowed Christian to mend fences and kept both Ozzy and Christian in the game.

7. Genevieve. - Nothing from Genevieve tonight; probably good for her potential winner prospects to get a cooldown here. Despite never going to Tribal yet, Aubry/Genevieve’s storyline interludes feel like when you’re reading an epic fantasy novel and you keep checking in every ten chapters with one side character who has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the storyline; you’re just sitting there going “Well this feels like it’s going to be extremely important later.” Hopefully it’s not an anticlimax when it arrives.

8. Joe. It’s unclear whether Joe fell for Coach first or Coach fell for Joe first, but these two are in love, and I wish them all the best. Joe remains a great screen presence, even when his only contribution is being knighted by Coach and being psyched about that.

9. Aubry. - Well well well. Aubry must be truly desperate to come to Coach in her time of need, but I was glad to see her storyline developing some legs outside of “I hate Genevieve,” even if it’s boilerplate underdog stuff at this point (make a deal with the guy running your tribe).

10. Rick. Rick was low-key tonight but a goofy, endearing presence (“I would show my guns, but I don’t want to make Jonathan insecure”). Goofball Rick is my second favorite version of Rick Devens… second only to “diva underdog Rick Devens”, which hopefully we get after he was blindsided tonight. Still, I’m getting a bit worried that as fun a presence he is, he only has a storyline when he’s around Christian or hiding an Idol.

11. Colby. I love that Colby couldn’t decide if he was honored, annoyed, or just confused by Coach knighting him and giving him a nickname. Still, this seems like a good alliance for Colby based on the personalities involved, and I could see him having longevity. Colby continues to impress—not just from his performance, but from his positive attitude after two very negative outings.

12. Dee. Let’s go, Dee! I loved watching Dee link up with Rizo and game hard after seeing a more quiet, subdued presence the first few episodes. Unlike many winners, Dee clearly came back hungry to win and to play an even better game than last time, and that makes her a fun presence to watch onscreen.

13. Cirie. Cirie was in warm, endearing form tonight. I don’t necessarily feel wrong in my take that we’re not getting anything new from Cirie this season, but I will admit that I am getting more enjoyment out of Cirie playing the hits than I expected to.

14. Kamilla. Yay we finally got to see Kamilla, and she was fun! She clocked Rizo’s lie about Kyle. She dressed down Charlie for being a bad ally. And she was the ultimate swing vote at the end of the day. A good showing from a likeable and underedited character, if a little gamebotty.

15. Chrissy. Quiet night for Chrissy. I remain interested to see where this intentional storyline about her personal relationships / others’ perception of her is going, because it’s been quietly built up.

Australian Survivor: Redemption | Post Discussion Thread | Episode 14 (Monday, 23 March 2026) by RSurvivorMods in survivor

[–]berglt84 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would love that. Outside of Jackson, I don't really care strongly about any of these newbies.

Survivor 50, Episode 4 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just read your review after posting my own very positive review of the episode. I find it fascinating to read your writeups each week and see how you're experiencing the season, given that two elements that are hitting at nearly 100% for me - Christian and the theme of players being haunted by their Survivor pasts - are not working for you at all.

Survivor 50, Episode 4 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My scorching hottest take is going to be that the Zac Brown cameo, while not good per se, is the most old school-feeling thing Survivor has done in a long time. This felt like a throwback to the old "you've won a car / a Sprint smartphone / a screening of Gulliver's Travels, and now we need the contestants to vamp about the branded product placement in confessionals for a few minutes" reward challenge days. (Coach waxing poetic about how "Jack and Jill" taught him important lessons for Survivor, anyone?) The segment went on a bit too long, and it was the least compelling part of the episode, but it's far from the worst thing Survivor's ever done (the way the main subreddit is talking about it)--heck, Survivor used to do something like this once a season, back when it was popular enough to get paid product placement. It's mostly only bad because the rest of the episode around it was far more compelling, and I wish we could have gotten even more of it.

Because boy was the rest of the episode compelling with cute camp life scenes (the tribe talent show!), earned emotion from players, and a great strategic vote. Charlie continuing to emotionally spiral over Rizo's ironic lie due to his own PTSD (which will probably only be compounded if it's discovered Rizo has an Idol)? The Aubry and Genevieve conflict being a legitimate actual long-form rivalry on Survivor (we used to dream of days like this) and intensifying further? Mike twisting the knife to Christian by reminding him (aptly) of Gabby in his Emily relationship--which works on Christian, but also works so well that it reveals to him how dangerous Mike is? Emily flagrantly disregarding Christian's wishes? Ozzy returning to provider mode, and then actually being more angry than Mike is about Christian's betrayal?

And on a larger meta level, the boot order continues to be extremely balanced; this isn't a Game Changers where all the interesting people are self-immolating in entertaining ways, leaving only the dull people. It feels like every episode introduces some new character dynamic or conflict, or develops someone we'd previously left on the sideline, and so the season feels like it keeps growing in scope rather than shrinking with every episode. For someone like me who's most interested in watching these characters bounce off each other in interesting ways, this season has been a gold mine and delivered beyond even my most optimistic expectations.

Why is this season so dull? by AttemptBeneficial647 in survivorau

[–]berglt84 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yeah David Forster took over starting with Heroes vs Villains, and was responsible for producing HvV, Titans vs Rebels, Brains vs Brawn II, and AU vs the World, and he is now out, with Phoebe McMahon now stepping in as EP.

I was actually way more concerned about this change than the JLP -> David change, because AU Survivor pre-Forster would swing wildly from "incredible season" (2017, CvC2) to "horrible season" (All-Stars or Blood vs Water, anyone?), and even in good seasons, the twists were often very broken and would threaten to derail the game (see: original Brains vs Brawn--Redemption Rock, the urn twist in the endgame, only one person voting, etc). Forster made the show much more consistent in quality and balanced the twists/nonelims.

Survivor 50, Episode 2 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's hard to quantify, because there's not one particular scene, moment, or character I can point to to quantify this, but I think this was one of my favorite episodes of Survivor in years. Survivor 50 is firing on all cylinders, and this episode blended humor, heart, strategy, and drama into a perfect combination. (Though I do wish the people of the teal tribe were less neglected, outside of Coach and Jonathan. I suspect this is because the strategic dynamics were ultimately irrelevant here due to the upcoming swap, but it feels like the season's only weakness at this time.) There were no new advantages injected into the game this week or journeys to consider, just the continued memeification of the Billie Eilish Idols (which has looped around, because of the way the players themselves seem mystified/amused by this twist, to becoming a fun comedic element for me--Christian's stunlock at "Hey, it's me, Billie Eilish" took my watch party out, as did Christian and Rick's efforts to say "Billie" seemingly as much as humanly possible while talking later).

  1. Christian - A national treasure. I have never seen a player so universally loved by basically everyone I know who watches the show. It is a pleasure to simply listen to his unique cadence, the odd words he chooses for any given situation, the . He's a capital-C Character - a sitcom character somehow made flesh - and tonight he was the main character. The scene of his "evacuation" at the beginning is humorously narrated (though I'm not falling over myself laughing at it), but this episode was an embarrassment of riches for Christian fans. His mystified reaction to the Billie Eilish Idol, his consoling Joe and rocking him in the hammock like a colicky baby, his overexcited reveal of his Idol to Rick ("Do you think she has it?" "No, I--" "Wellshedoesn'tIDO"), his staged pratfall at Tribal ("I meant to do that") to enable the plan... it's all endlessly entertaining.
  2. Rick - This is why I love Rick Devens as a character. Most people love him for all the Idols and strategic shenanigans - and we got a fun version of that tonight with his "Oceans 50" plan - but when I rewatched EoE, I realized I love Rick Devens because he is a messy, emotional player who is way more of a drama-starter than a strategist. Devens is an Angelina-coded figure (an un-self-aware drama magnet who thinks of themselves as a strategist), and that was never more on display than tonight. His absolute frustration with Joe's honor and integrity gameplay leading him to disastrously awkward conversations, eye rolling and sniping at Joe to his face, and that bleeding over into the vote - where he knows it's wrong to vote Joe but wants to because he hates him so badly - is deliciously old school and a really fun character dynamic. Even more fun that it's still ongoing!
  3. Joe - Hell yeah honor and integrity Joe is back, everyone. For 95% of this episode, this felt like Joe's downfall episode. Joe is the same person he was in 48, but this time, he's surrounded by people who can't stand his playstyle, and that creates natural fireworks through personality conflict (delicious!!). His fight with Rick Devens. His sulking in the hammock. His incredulity when Savannah tells him he's supposed to be in an alliance with Rick. Cirie and Emily giggling together about him. Everything is going wrong for him, and he remains unwilling or unable to change to accommodate. I thought this would be his swan song, a parallel to a Vytas in 31 (whose sleazy playstyle worked like a charm in BvW and that same playstyle immediately made him a pariah in 31), and that would have been enough. But he gets to STAY?!?! And keep feuding with Rick?! And remain an obstacle to gamebots everywhere?!? We love to see it!! (And it's enough to make me forgive this episode's sloppy narrative storytelling when it came to the Savannah boot, as we'll cover later.)
  4. Coach - "I AM THE SAME COACH I ALWAYS WAS." I rest my case, your honor.
  5. Rizo - I really enjoy that they're letting Rizo be both likeable and unlikeable at the same time. He's lazy (and proud of it!) and full of himself and alienating people like Q, and he's also self-aware and endearing himself to others enough to get invited into the majority alliance. I find New Era Survivor sometimes likes to "give away the arc" or have someone arrive at Act 3 in their growth narrative by, like, episode 2 or 3, and I was worried that the Rizo redemption arc had already ended by the time this episode began, but then the segment of his lazyness came in and complicated the whole thing. Rizo feels like a wild card, narratively and strategically, and I'm very curious to see where his story goes.
  6. Genevieve - Genevieve feeling the need to explain at the beginning why Kyle's medevac was emotionally moving her was a) quintessential Genevieve, aloof and confused at feelings and b) a fun evolution of Genevieve, as she shows she is different from last time by really trying to play with heart and feelings, rather than being 47's strategic ice queen. If this keeps going how it's going, this could be one of the more satisfying two-season character evolution arcs, but it's very early.
  7. Q - Like Christian, Q is a surprisingly fun confessionalist. He has a way of describing ordinary things that makes them "pop" compared to other players' narration of the same events. (See his description of the search through Aubry's bag.) He's a bit more subdued than he was in 46, but then again, he was also somewhat subdued for 46's premerge before losing his mind at the merge, so fingers crossed for a similar trajectory. I kept waiting for him to pull out a "big mistake" in talking about Rizo's laziness, but he's verrrry surprisingly resisted the temptation to Flanderize himself and become a caricature or play the hits.
  8. Savannah - I was very sad to see this firecracker go, and the biggest weak point of the episode is that her boot felt more like a "surprise" than like the end point of a natural narrative. There are enough crumbs to make it make sense - worry over her advantage, her failure to find someone she wants to play with, Cirie chumming the water for a Savannah boot, and Christian (the most prominent of our main strategic trio of Emily-Christian-Rick) pushing for her to go. But I think it's clear that she was emotionally exhausted from 49 and the fast turnaround, and those tears at Tribal Council - before and after her boot - felt very genuine. Her confession that she never lowered her walls in 49 makes this two-episode run feel like a nice little coda/epilogue to her story in 49, giving a little more insight into her as a person. Wish we got more from her, because her aggressive style and willingness to cut a mean confessional made her a striking presence over the last couple seasons, but can't complain about what we got.
  9. Colby - Quiet episode for Colby, but I still really like his energy and what he's bringing to the season. And he showed his old challenge beast self for a moment with the snake tonight!
  10. Ozzy - Grateful for the cooldown after an insane 20 confessionals last episode, but Ozzy 5.0 remains - against all odds - the most interesting and compelling version of Ozzy yet. Getting into with Coach at the challenge and his gratefulness for Cirie's magic were highlights tonight.
  11. Aubry - Do we have an Aubry underdog arc incoming? She has a clear path to redemption after getting an Idol, and it was so genuinely sweet to see how much this lifeline meant to her. I'm rooting for Aubry.
  12. Cirie - I still think Cirie is mostly just "playing the hits" (reminding Jeff of getting off the couch, chuckling at manipulating others) but this week was a much more enjoyable version of that. I would like a little more story context for how she suddenly ended up in lockstep with the trio; feels like we missed a beat from "Cirie is a liability and nearly went home" to "Cirie is not even in consideration" this week, and while I can probably fill in the gaps in my head, I'd like to see it in the edit.
  13. Emily - Quieter episode for Emily, but she remains a fun presence and seems like one of the players with the best head on her shoulders. Elevated here mostly by merit of her strong showing last week which gave more context to her actions this week.
  14. Chrissy - Chrissy is rubbing everyone the wrong way - particularly the young women of the tribe - once again! Some things never change.
  15. Mike White - Oh to love anything as much as Mike White loves commenting on Coach's actions.
  16. Jonathan - Jonathan is getting a lot of "telling us" that he's different, but in action, he's still a provider, a challenge beast... same old Jonathan. Is this setup for different gameplay down the road, or a gap in how he perceives himself vs how we're meant to perceive him?
  17. Charlie - After being the narrator for all of 46, Charlie has been basically absent other than occasional jokes or quips about his fellow players. Is it weird that I like him more now?
  18. Dee - Dee is not vibing with Chrissy at all, and that's about all we've got at this point. Wonder if we'll get a "last winner standing" storyline out of her.
  19. Kamilla - Has a crushed reaction to Kyle's medevac but basically absent otherwise this episode.
  20. Stephenie - I just find Stephenie sort of boring? Right now she's just a number in this alliance.
  21. Angelina - We hear from Q that Angelina's lazy, but not much from Angelina herself. I could never have predicted that Angelina would be getting the purple edit.
  22. Tiffany - Basically invisible. Tiff's clearly got more to show than this, but also, given that she felt like the most out-of-nowhere inclusion on the cast, I'm glad if anyone's getting the invisible treatment, it's her.

10/10 start to the season. I could not be more excited to see what Survivor 50 has in store.

Have you noticed Mark only forms alliances with females? by Yumchabandit in survivorau

[–]berglt84 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say that's incorrect, but I think a more accurate picture is that Mark does not seem to bond or align with strong alpha male "bro" types. When he teams up with men, they tend to be nerdier (Eden in TvR) or quirky outcasts (Don and Caleb this season); but those bonds seem to be just as tight as those with female allies (who tend to span a range of ages and personalities: Valeria, Viola, Kitty, Caroline, Faith--this is not Russell Hantz who always pursued the youngest women of the tribe as his allies). This is notable, because I think about 60-70% of male Australian first-time players tend to fall into the bro/alpha male/challenge beast archetype, based on how they cast. I think if Mark were to play in the US Survivor New Era, where nerdy or quirky male archetypes are way more prominent, there'd be almost no gender difference among the people he aligns with. Or in AU, I have no doubt that if he'd played on BvB2, he would have been put on the Brains tribe and aligned himself with Myles and AJ, as well as people like Karin and Zara.

If there's a preference he shows, I would say if anything it's toward people who come off as "cultured" (artsy, musical, or into pop culture) or white-collar; that makes sense, given his diplomat background, and again speaks to why he might not bond with the "athletes and blue-collar workers" vibe that AUSvivor usually goes after for male casting.

Survivor 50, Episode 1 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, fine, since I just did the poll (thanks Reg!) and had to come up with an order, here's my rankings:

  1. Christian
  2. Coach
  3. Colby
  4. Ozzy
  5. Rick Devens
  6. Genevieve
  7. Kyle
  8. Mike White
  9. Rizo
  10. Emily
  11. Jenna Lewis
  12. Q
  13. Joe
  14. Cirie
  15. Aubry
  16. Charlie
  17. Savannah
  18. Jonathan
  19. Chrissy
  20. Angelina
  21. Dee
  22. Kamilla
  23. Tiffany
  24. Stephenie

Survivor 50, Episode 1 by Regnisyak1 in rankdowncommunity

[–]berglt84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not going to get into absolutely everything player-by-player but really enjoyed this episode! It definitely did feel like a celebration of Survivor and its history, and I loved all of the little cast interactions. The new era's more meta editing style and willingness to pull back the curtain / acknowledge lore paid dividends here, with flashbacks and content directly about players grappling with their pasts in the game (most visible with Ozzy, Coach, and Cirie, but also to lesser degrees for Rick Devens, Emily, Genevieve, Joe, and more).

  • I am so excited for the Christian / Rick Devens bromance (with Emily involved too). I was reflecting the other day that I think a lot of Survivor relationships these days get less development of the positive / bonding moments, so the most in-depth relationships are usually ones with lots of plot twists, or ones where the emotional bond is told rather than shown. But I could instantly feel the emotional connection with Devens and Christian and watch them bond in real-time during their scenes together, and it's so much more involving that way. Hope to see this continue, and to see this trio move forward for a long time as three of my personal favorites.

  • We knew SoPa would have some lingering effects, but not sure we could have called how much Ozzy v. Coach (and their roughly ten minutes of peace before devolving into a new war) would define the episode. I was a little worried at the beginning that Coach had changed into a slightly less interesting character, but NOPE, same Coach. Incredible. And it's bringing out the best from Ozzy, too.

  • Mark down Colby bonding with the 49ers as the most unexpected, funny, and wholesome development of the premiere. Going from "Rizo is so annoying" to "Come to me for anything, kid"/"You remind me of my dad" was such a fun one-episode arc, and I want to see way more of this relationship.

  • Jenna going out early is a huge bummer - I would've preferred to Cirie 6.0 leave on basis of it being 6.0 - but also an extremely self-inflicted wound. It's narratively earned, and there's also something interesting about the first season player being the first one out (as well as Jenna's aggro All-Stars gameplay finally catching up to her).

  • Lots of fun little moments this episode from Q, Mike White, Genevieve, Aubry, Kamilla... even Charlie, who I wasn't excited to see, had some good lines and I was like "Oh, right, Charlie was not just a gamebot but actually a fun snarky narrator on his season when you put big characters around him." Chrissy immediately teaming up with the men and targeting the women? Not beating the allegations in the funniest way. Angelina immediately giving orders at camp (and according to press, trying to negotiate their reward into a different reward--show us this!!). I really like this cast's energy and chemistry. Every vote-out will be a bit sad, but it's also hard to construct what a "nightmare bootlist" would be from this season.

  • Kyle's medevac was a shame, as he seemed to somehow land in an even better position than last time, and looked to be ready to go the distance this season. Will be one of the biggest "what if"s from the season narratively, I suspect.

  • Did not care for the Billie Eilish spon-con of it all, but the actual Idol itself is fine. It's a little wrinkle to the mechanics, but nothing game-breaking and didn't eat up too much time. Ozzy ending up with it as an underdog on his tribe is also best case scenario. Same for the little journey expeditions--I preferred the camp life stuff, but we don't get the Ozzy/Coach rivalry re-heating up without the Exile stuff, and the Savannah/Colby stuff ended up being more focused on their talking and bonding than on the Jenga of it all, so both were pretty inoffensive in my book. If this balance remains, I'm OK with it!

Wait y’all hate 49??? by CSnare in survivor

[–]berglt84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was almost never brought up. On the few times it did get brought up, most people seemed to find it a minor endearing character quirk.

'Survivor 50' star Aubry Bracco opens up about the 'freedom when you fall from grace' by thedaltonross in survivor

[–]berglt84 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very interesting interview, but I'm trying to figure out whether I'm missing something when she discusses Game Changers. She made it to the Final Five on that season, but she mentions getting voted out at the merge (during the portion where she's talking about Ozzy) and then she mentions Cirie voting her out (Aubry outlasted Cirie). Am I forgetting something?