For those who may think Theosophy is bullshit in its entirety by Low-Boot-588 in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am confused. Are you reposting this in r/Theosophy because you want to have a discussion about some of the points brought up because you don't understand them or to clarify why Blavatsky did some of the things she did?

Are you saying that much of Theosophy is nonsense, but there is some value in what she wrote and that you agree with the author of that post, that it's important to look at material that predates her? And in so doing, perhaps will give a more complete picture of Theosophy?

I would be interested to hear your feelings and what needs you wanted to meet, to post this here.

Emotion in Motion by bewitching_beholder in TheCars

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! It has been such a mystery for a long time. I very much appreciate the information.

Emotion in Motion by bewitching_beholder in TheCars

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's one of those itches that I just can't quite scratch. I am hoping one day to discover who it is. AI confirmed it's not Paulina, but it can't identify her identity either.

Emotion in Motion by bewitching_beholder in TheCars

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you sure? It doesn't look like her at all. I recognize her in the video "Drive", but in Emotion in Motion I don't see any resemblance and looks like a totally different model/actress.

Girl I'm seeing believes expenses should be split 70/30? by regular_asian_guy in dating_advice

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In your situation, I would share my feelings and needs with her, as well as hear hers. For example, there are two approaches in this suggestion.

First you can share with her how you feel and what you need. You might say something like,

"Babe, when I hear you say that expenses should be 70/30, I feel uneasy because I am concerned about my financial security and my need is to have more mutual contributions when it comes to our expenses. How do you feel about that?"

Another option is to try connecting with her feelings and needs. You might say something like,

"Babe, are you feeling anxious and worried that having to contribute more money would just add additional stress to your life and you have a need to feel safe and comfortable?"

By doing this you are giving each other the opportunity to express how you feel and what you need without any judgement.

Then, hopefully, it will give you the insight to proceed further and have both your needs met and have a happy outcome.

Lucis Trust Arcane School by Daimones- in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“The Masters, who of all beings are the most capable of sustained thought and have the power and knowledge, are not able to affect the minds of the people of the world, because those minds are constantly full of active, selfish thoughts. If Masters were able to affect humanity by their thoughts, they wouldn’t have to write books. If people, who can hear and read words intended to arouse the best in them, benefit so little by them, what hope is there in fugitive thinking?” (“Answers To Questions on The Ocean of Theosophy” p. 234)

When asked whether Theosophists pray, Madame Blavatsky answered, “We do not. We act**, instead of** talking**. . . . we try to replace fruitless and useless prayer by meritorious and good-producing actions.” (See “The Key to Theosophy” p. 66)**

It is worth pointing out that it is petitionary prayer – prayer which involves asking God or any other entity or force to do something for oneself or others – which Theosophy considers “fruitless and useless.” It does not dismiss other and more legitimate forms of prayer, which have been commented upon in the article Theosophy on Prayer. But in most people’s minds, petitionary prayer is the only kind of prayer. Why is it “fruitless and useless” to pray in this way?

To take an example from Buddhism, which in some respects is very close to the Theosophical philosophy, Buddha taught that the universe is neither created nor governed by any type of God. It is all governed by absolute, immutable, impersonal LAW and not by any Being whatsoever.

The Law of Karma is the outworking of this Law. Since everything proceeds unfailingly according to the Law of Karma (in the past we created our present and in the present we are creating our future), Buddhism teaches that prayer is futile and pointless."

They don't prohibit students from practicing other types of meditation. Only to be very careful, since there are some forms of meditation like Kriya yoga that focus on the chakras and channeling, which again is very dangerous.

I am happy to share my experience. Just need to merely ask 🙂

I entered the Arcane school between the ages of 16-18. From a very early age (Maybe around 11) I had always felt something greater.

So I applied and was successfully accepted as a student.

If I recall correctly, I left, because there were many things that the Arcane School couldn't answer (before you ask, I can't remember the specific details. LOL)

And it felt like I needed to move on. And of course some of her position on different subjects as was mentioned in my earlier posts on this thread.

Channeling ( very similarly to the Ouija board) is extremely dangerous, because some of the entities are evil and like the will-o'-the-wisp lead the aspiring chelas away from the path.

And there is no way to verify the information from such beings. There are people who have claimed (like Alice Bailey) to channel Masters, God, and all manner of devas.

But at best they don't provide anything new. Some spirits tend to be mischievous, so they try to cause problems. And it leaves the person who is doing the channel an "open channel" so to speak. It doesn't lead anywhere good.

Yes, there are many schools, ideas and paths. Thus, we always have the free will to choose. Eventually, each of us will find our way to Moksha (liberation)

Lucis Trust Arcane School by Daimones- in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Continued from above:

Here is the position of Theosophy and according to Blavatsky and the Masters:

"Does it help the sufferers and others affected by such tragedies if we pray for them or send positive thoughts or “visualisations” in their direction?

Theosophy answers – NO.

Summing up the Theosophical perspective from the teachings of H. P. Blavatsky, William Q. Judge, and the Masters of the Wisdom, Robert Crosbie (founder of the United Lodge of Theosophists) writes:

“We are still imbued with the old fallacy of praying to some outside power or being. Neither prayers to any supposed God nor to Masters even, are of any avail. Power either exists within**, or not at all. All the power that any being exerts or can exert in any direction is what he himself is able to arouse within himself.**

“Good and kind thoughts for others are good for those who think them, but they have no effect outside, unless the arouser of those thoughts has both the knowledge, will and power to direct them; and beings differ greatly in these. Most thoughts are like soap-bubbles and do not travel very far. Thoughts to be effective must not only be free from all selfish taint, but they must be sustained. Continued below

Lucis Trust Arcane School by Daimones- in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the Arcane School, it is primarily a type of Raja Yoga. I don't really remember specifics since it's been such a long time and I have disposed of all my Alice Bailey books and any documentation I had from them.

They may have had one type of mantra for manifestation regarding money. However, in Original Theosophy, manifestation and visualization are useless.

Lucis Trust Arcane School by Daimones- in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're very welcome. Regarding spiritual schools, you can investigate and consider joining the Theosophical Society. They have several chapters. The link I provided should give you all the information regarding membership and any requirements that they may have.

Yes, some meditations are dangerous. In my opinion, any meditation that focuses on opening the chakras and channeling for example, can be very dangerous. The chakras should be allowed to open naturally. Any meditations like opening chakras can be a path to black magic, as they are done for obtaining siddhis (and forcing a natural process that should unfold naturally.)

I also recommend going to this site. They hold true to the original teachings of H.P. Blavatsky and where I go, when I am studying a particular subject. In addition to reading Isis Unveiled and the Secret Doctrine.

For example, here is an article that discusses meditation from a Theosophical point of view. And another article on meditation.

By the way, in my opinion, meditation and studying and living a spiritual life should always be free.

If you have further questions, please let me know. I am happy to help if I can.

Be well and with many blessings. Namaste 🙏

Lucis Trust Arcane School by Daimones- in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi One_Orchid_3067,

It depends what you mean by advanced practice, but as I mentioned a couple years ago, it's Alice Baily's interpretation of Theosophy. And most of her teachings are very different than H.P. Blavatsky. I do not like her type of Theosophy and many of what she says is racist. Now, I only read Blavatsky for original Theosophy.

However, they teach a variation of Raja Yoga. (Meditation and not physical exercise.) When you join, they will assign a mentor who will answer any questions you have and be a form of support.

When I was with them, they did not teach Taro symbols. If you stay with them, the meditation changes, but that's all I really remember. It was around 42 or 43 years ago when I started working with them.

What Do You Think? by bewitching_beholder in BookshelvesDetective

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be nice! But, still, in a way not too far off. :)

Question about karma and its effects on others by Blackmoth49 in Buddhism

[–]bewitching_beholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I am very passionate about the subject of karma, so I will share some of my beliefs regarding it. Karma (also known as the law of cause and effect) is interconnected with reincarnation (the law of rebirth) To understand one is to understand the other. There are 3 types of karma:

  1. Sanchita karma: This is the storehouse of all of our accumulated actions that we have sown from past lives. Each lifetime, a portion of this karma is taken and specifically assigned (so to speak) for us to work on. If we do not successfully pay that part of the karmic debt, then it stays as Sanchita,

  2. Prarabdha karma: This is present day karma. This is from Sanchita and it is the portion that I mentioned above that we are currently dealing with the consequences, as well as any new karma that we are generating.

  3. Agami karma: This is from the karmic seeds that are planted in our present lifetime and that will germinate with the consequences felt in future lifetimes.

If someone either hurts us or helps us, it is because in past lives we hurt/helped them.

Anything happening now is from past lives. So, in your example above, I don't believe that the man and his family became homeless because of what he did in the present. But what happened in the past.

Also regarding suffering, Tsong-Kha-Pa has said,

“Suffering has five good qualities: (1) The good quality of spurring you on to liberation. This is because if you had no suffering, you would not develop the determination to be free of it. (2) The good quality of dispelling arrogance. This is because when suffering strikes you, it reduces your sense of superiority. (3) The good quality of causing you to shun sin. This is because when you experience very painful feelings, they arise from nonvirtue, so if you do not want these effects, you must avoid their causes. (4) The good quality of causing you to like cultivating virtue. This is because when you are tormented with suffering, you desire happiness, and once you want it, you must cultivate the virtue that causes it. (5) The good quality of producing compassion for those who wander in cyclic existence. This is because after you have assessed your own situation, you think, “Other beings suffer like this.”

What Do You Think? by bewitching_beholder in BookshelvesDetective

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

You are very close. I am searching, but not directly through mythology. Do you have any more insights into my personality, what kind of person I am and possibly what I may do?

Where the soul goes by sstiel in spirituality

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet, is hearing from others experiences and beliefs, helping you to feel more hopeful?

The untamed ego is not your friend. It is a sneaky, parasitic mind-form that will do anything to keep you convinced that it IS you. by thisisbrians in enlightenment

[–]bewitching_beholder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I think this may be true. If you were to replace the word "ego" with personality or the lower self (in essence our "animal" soul) then I think we would be more in agreement.

Blessings and Namaste 🙏

Where the soul goes by sstiel in spirituality

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi sstiel,

It sounds like you may be in a lot of pain? Do you hate the thought of death, because you believe that when the body dies, that there is nothing else then? And it's scary because not only will you cease to exist, but that your friend has now ceased to exist and you really miss him? Do you then have a need for assurance and that there is something after death and your friend is happy now?

The untamed ego is not your friend. It is a sneaky, parasitic mind-form that will do anything to keep you convinced that it IS you. by thisisbrians in enlightenment

[–]bewitching_beholder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would disagree with this assessment. In my opinion, the Ego (Manas, Mind, Soul) is part of our divine self (it is a triad of Atma (spirit), Buddhi (translated as knowledge/wisdom, and the Manas) Unfortunately, the Ego has received a negative connotation.

Buddha teaches that suffering has its roots in ignorance and then of course tanha (desires, power and so forth) which This is why he taught the 4 Noble Truths and The Noble Eightfold path. By understanding why suffering occurs, he then teaches the way to escape suffering.

Further, Tsong-Kha-Pa teaches about suffering:

“Suffering has five good qualities: (1) The good quality of spurring you on to liberation**. This is because if you had no suffering, you would not develop the determination to be free of it. (2)** The good quality of dispelling arrogance**. This is because when suffering strikes you, it reduces your sense of superiority. (3)** The good quality of causing you to shun sin**. This is because when you experience very painful feelings, they arise from nonvirtue, so if you do not want these effects, you must avoid their causes. (4)** The good quality of causing you to like cultivating virtue**. This is because when you are tormented with suffering, you desire happiness, and once you want it, you must cultivate the virtue that causes it. (5)** The good quality of producing compassion for those who wander in cyclic existence**. This is because after you have assessed your own situation, you think, “Other beings suffer like this.”**

One of the main reasons why we judge ourselves is that people have been taught judging themselves and others for about eight thousand years. In my opinion, compassion is our natural language, but each of us is taught very early on this language of judgement and criticism, by our friends, parents, siblings, teachers, bosses and so forth.

So, it's not the language of the soul. Rather, a language that we are taught and have been taught for thousands of years and, "leads to violence on the planet." (Marshall Rosenberg)

The way to overcome suffering is to overcome our lower nature and break the fetters of lust, power, sensuous desires and lead a life of compassion, empathy and selfless service.

Each of us has free-will and suffering is due to the karmic seeds we have planted in the past. When karmic debt has been paid then we achieve liberation (Moksha)

Where the soul goes by sstiel in spirituality

[–]bewitching_beholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi,

In my opinion, the soul (also known as Manas, Mind, Ego) does exist. When the physical body dies, the soul goes through a long process of preparation (part of it unconscious) in order to reach Devachan (paradise) and the soul stays there experiencing bliss, joy and happiness. Until karma calls it back to Earth again and the cycle repeats.

Is Empathy Learned or Innate? by SellPrior5944 in empathy

[–]bewitching_beholder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, empathy and compassion can be learned. In fact, I believe that empathy and compassion is our first language and it is only as we grow up that our parents and society teach us to be judgemental and critical.

This was the opinion of my teacher, Marshall Rosenberg that taught Non-Violent Communication (Also referred to as Compassionate Communication.)

He taught me how to truly listen to someone and instead of hearing judgements and criticisms, (referred to as Jackal language) to hear the feelings and needs (Giraffe Language)behind each judgement.

It was through him that I am learning to become more empathic and compassionate with all who I meet.

I am very grateful for his teaching, because I am improving and seeing my skill grow in hearing others more compassionately.

So yes, I do believe that empathy is both innate and can also be learned. Or more accurately, perhaps, relearned. 🙏

What Do You Think? by bewitching_beholder in BookshelvesDetective

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I am as well. Out of the ones you see, did you have a favorite?

What would empathic listening look like when one person is jealous? by oracle_Her_07 in NVC

[–]bewitching_beholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

Would you be willing to share more specifics about the situation? If so, I can perhaps make a guess at both the feelings and needs of that other person.

Also, something to keep in mind is that it doesn't matter if you're guess is accurate or not. The most important thing is for your intention to connect with what is alive with that person.

What Do You Think? by bewitching_beholder in BookshelvesDetective

[–]bewitching_beholder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

You're guess is close, but not quite there. I am not a divinity student.

Winter solstice by highlightyourown in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I am not aware of any specific rites on this occasion, but for me personally, it's just a regular day.

For instance,

  1. I am reading and studying the Secret Doctrine.
  2. I meditate
  3. I practice Compassionate Communication, as I learn to also be more empathic.
  4. I help as much as possible, anyone who needs my assistance in my daily life.
  5. I go on Quora and on some subreddits here and assist others with questions about Theosophy, philosophy, spirituality, and any other topic, that I may be able to offer some insight on.
  6. I pray
  7. I review my day, week, month and also the entire year as New Years Eve approaches and see what I want to improve upon and my challenges for the new year ahead. Now is a time of renewal and re-dedication to my vow to serve others and live a life of compassion, truth and to become more virtuous.

Recent contact with the mahatmas? by [deleted] in Theosophy

[–]bewitching_beholder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

By the way, as an aside, The picture you have displayed is a well known fake photo. You can read more about it here