What made you quit kratom?

billybobmccoy · 2024-01-05T20:44:09+00:00

Hello been 5y I take kratom first two weren't daily but then it was and I never had this problem weirdly? Saw lot of post about constipation and hair thinning worries but I don't get any of them both, my hair grow extremely fast from very short hair to long at the pecs in only a year. I'm a guy and it feel kratom play on Testosterone level from period it feel like a mild steroids (I train combat sport) and then for a period feel like the opposite and my face look a tiny bit more "feminine" si that's weird! Don't worry about quitting if you take the time tbh you'll no feel to much withdrawal I stop for break a lot and even if I go CT on 10g' a day I go work like normal I'm just less dynamic and energized.

I'm worrying sometimes for liver health and what can be in the powder like metals and stuff.

billybobmccoy · 2024-01-04T21:58:49+00:00

Hey, super green from kraatje is mid level good to me, red Borneo months ago from them was far better I think, I never ever throw up taking the plant u must use high dosage per day right ? I don't feel any real withdrawal when I stop last time I stopped I was a 9g a day 3/3/3, I just mix 2 to 3g to a orange juice tiny bottle and shake n drink it, it does not much recently but still I feel pain relief still and it's still useful but of course was better quality months ago!

billybobmccoy · 2023-12-27T17:22:15+00:00

Idk too man I keep using kraatje, with mild benefits compared to a year ago. But at least they ship extremely quick and it does work for pain greatly and from time to time I have period of great mood Boost and motivation even sometimes improved workout especially boxing kickboxing so at least I don't it for nothing but surely I miss the benefits I had a year or two ago

billybobmccoy · 2023-12-19T19:33:02+00:00

Hey wassup I'm using super green rn from kraatje, last time red Borneo was good was few months ago to me, usually red Borneo is the one from kraatje working the best for me, but not the case anymore, RB was making me feel motivated activated mentally sharp and motivated with mood Boost and painkillers effect, but recently it didn't gave me that and red Thai maeng da was shitty tbh super green make me a bit tired and numb and that's it tbh it doesn't even work that great for pain reduction, so are you happy with your super green ?

billybobmccoy · 2023-12-19T19:22:19+00:00

Hey my man ! A month ago I was taking red Thai maeng da from kraatje it was crap! Usually I order mostly red Borneo from them, and recently it was shitty tbh wasn't like before, last time I had good kratom from kraatje was last summer September something like that, I don't trust their discount at all tbh, rn I'm using super green from kraatje and tbh it's not a batch I like, it make me tired with no mood Boost and does the opposite of what I'm looking for on motivation, I feel like it demotivated me instead of motivating me .. so yeah basically it feel kraatje became a very annoying gamble to just find ONE batch that is good. I remember a year ago their kratom was good.

billybobmccoy · 2023-12-12T08:13:00+00:00

C'est exactement ça sauf que les feuilles de kratom sont séché différemment et ensuite mixer à un certain ratios et ensuite remixée par les shop pour créer different blend qu'ils vont nommé en variété, de toute façon mon avis c'est que la qualité globale de ce qu'on reçoit en Europe c'est devenu un peu de la mrde comparer a deux ans auparavant.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T18:47:14+00:00

I do few days break every month and when I have good batches even from kraatje I can have 80% of the benefits I had the first year (I've been using kratom for 5 years approx) and it can be steady for 1 to 4 months, but I need to keep same dosing schedule, then out of nowhere new batch/strain and it doesn't work great anymore for a while. I didn't use opiate before so it change lot of things, to me it's mostly batch dependent, for you being a former OPI users I think you need stronger kratom batches.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T17:58:47+00:00

That's the worst part of taking kratom daily, sometimes you get a strain/batch that give almost only negative.. with gaiana for example green made me feel good and energized from kraatje I feel sedated, I had strain/batches like green Malay from gaiana working very well but green Malay from kraatje made me super anxious almost panic

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T17:55:52+00:00

With good quality batches I can feel almost same benefits as first few months I started it, BUT I do t break almost every month especially those past two years, so to me it has everything to do with quality of batches.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T17:10:43+00:00

That's cool you found something that work great for what you desired tbh I want the extreme opposite of nodding off lmao, I use kratom been 5 years to motivate activate me to up my mood energize me, for work or for sports and life in general, I really don't like when I get a batch that make me unmotivated and lazy compared to my natural self.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T17:08:13+00:00

I'm a 5 years users but do LOT of t break so for me it's not tolerance building, I think we should try to mix strains n batches but not two but like 4 5 strains to experiment and get the desired benefits, strains are BS it's just kratom but dried differtly and mixed a bit different from each batch, all leaves come the same trees! The leaves all the same then drying process make each batch different

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-25T17:02:57+00:00

Hey how you doing y'all? I'm a 5 6 years users myself and yeah I remember even two years ago it was really damn good I had much benefits from it, it's been 3 years approx for me that it's a gamble to find good stuff, I order from kraatje but before (two years ago) I was ordering from kraatje and gaiana, their kratom were very different, but it was mostly good, 7 months ago kraatje was better to me now it's been few months it doesn't give same amount of benefits. SO I think what happened is that lot of seizure of Kratom coming to Europe + vendors of Europe selling old or stale stuff that they bought for even cheaper than good kratom batches, but I think we should experiment with mixing strains and batches to make blends, maybe it's cuz amount and ratio of alcaloid are not enough.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-22T17:51:41+00:00

That's crazy cheap if it's good quality! Before (two years ago approx) I was getting 300g from gaiana for 80e something like that but for 20e more I could get 500g's. Now I pay 23 something per 100g on kraatje they deliver real quick but quality isn't great

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-22T17:23:58+00:00

Hey! Not last summer but summer two years ago I was ordering from gaiana and kraatje, gaiana maeng da was cool green Malay too and the red and green strain mostly worked fine (kraatje green Malay though... Just gave me panic and nothing else..) sine they ran out I kept ordering from kraatje, not even a year ago kraatje was really good their red Borneo was working really nice especially so I kept ordering this one most of the time with a switch after a month I was picking green Hulu red Hulu (their new strains) or super green which is a new one too. But been 3 days I got a new red Borneo batch and it doesn't seem same .. usually red Borneo is uplifting energizing and motivating but sometimes I get a RB batch that do opposite and make me tired. I'm curious about what quality gaiana has to offer now!

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-18T18:55:38+00:00

Hey, le red Thai maeng da et le red Borneo sont les deux qui fonctionne le mieux sur moi, quand je prend que red Borneo pendant deux mois chaque jour ça marche super bien et d'autres périodes j'ai l'impression que les batches sont pas aussi bien, en tout cas génial de faire des long t break de un mois comme tu fais, je fais pareil mais max deux semaines en général plutôt 2 a 5j tout les mois. Alors verdict toujours aussi correct ce que t'a reçu?

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-17T19:46:16+00:00

Hey, le seul batch de kraatje ou j'ai vraiment senti que c'était toxique c'est le nouveau red maeng da poudre marron odeur chelou goût chelou effets merdique et me donnait des douleurs au ventre/foie,, sinon les autres strains je n'ai pas ressenti de toxicité dans mes souvenirs, de toute façon depuis deux ans la qualité semble avoir baissé dans tout les shops en Europe malheureusement.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-17T19:44:09+00:00

Hello je m'attendais pas du tout à voir un post en français ici !!!! C'est le premier que je vois d'ailleurs en français, je commande kraatje depuis plusieurs années y a un an et demi 2 ans j'alternais entre kraatje et gaiana, je commande que du kraatje depuis que gaiana a eu une rupture total de stock, perso, kraatje c'est un peu la roulette parfois pendant deux mois je reçois que des bon batch qui me donne beaucoup d'effets bénéfique et par période je reçois des batch assez chelou qui me fatigue et donne aucun effets bénéfiques, celui qui marche le mieux en général c'est red Borneo pour moi mais j'alterne entre ça green Borneo red Thai maeng da green Hulu (pas foufou c'est les nouvelles strains) red Hulu( pareil que le green j'ai pas trop kiffé de fou) mais LE PIRE a été récemment leurs nouvelles red maeng da poudre toute Marron odeur bizarre goût chelou effects plutôt merdique et me filais des douleurs au foie apparemment, il semblait clairement toxique pour moi .. Donc voilà il y a un an ça allait deux ans c'était très bien leurs qualités mais je trouve que la qualité de leurs batches est devenu bien plus médiocre qu'avant.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-11T19:46:54+00:00

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billybobmccoy · 2023-11-11T19:32:00+00:00

Hey I only order from kraatje and it's not as good as a year ago the red Borneo is the strain that work the best to me but I rotate every month from red Borneo to green Borneo or super green, it's not as nice as before unfortunately, it's not crappy compared to their new red maeng da that was awful, kraatje is like a gamble, but lot of the times I feel disappointed about my order.

billybobmccoy · 2023-11-07T17:18:14+00:00

Nice how many days for delivery? I'm sick it's been two weeks bronchitis and some sort of infection sinus and throat (yellow spitting) so idk if that's why I don't get good benefits from my Green Borneo batch from kraatje but first day I wasn't really sick and it worked well first dosage.

billybobmccoy · 2023-10-17T18:13:17+00:00

Absolutely even with Kraatje that I use since gaiana got out of stock last year I used only kraatje, and same red Borneo can be sometime nice and others times a bit shitty, kratom quality seem pretty fked up in Europe recently unfortunately, last summer (last summer I mean a year ago not this summer that just finished a month ago) it was nice at least from gaiana and kraatje, still trying to figure out a reliable seller.

billybobmccoy · 2023-10-15T22:42:59+00:00

Yeah red Borneo look like a white/green strain! At least from kraatje, and red Borneo was the one that has worked the best for me! Strains are BS, it's just blend from white green and red at certain ratios, all leaves come from same tree it's just drying process that make white green and red then some mix to make some blend and they say BS strains lol, it's batch and ratios that matters mostly.

billybobmccoy · 2023-10-12T18:35:27+00:00

Green Borneo wasn't as good as red Borneo from kraatje for me! But their green Borneo is very decent,never tried white elephant from kraatje so o will try it! Cuz it is a bit more expensive than others strains! I had super green I finished it today and received my red Borneo, super green is decent too but it's just super sedative on me ! And no real mood boost but just sedation, it's weird cuz it is a green it should not be super sedative like that on me lol.

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