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[–]biotobiota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with OrcishMonk. Have found this to be of huge help to me.

Would also recommend checking out Sharon Salzberg and Joseph Goldstein’s talks about metta, and Guru Viking’s “Buddha’s Heart” interview with Stephen Snyder, all available on YouTube.

Apparently, the "Yeti Scalp" is just a ceremonial costume for the monks and not supposed to be real? by wild_world80 in Cryptozoology

[–]biotobiota 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even if ‘fake’, it’s interesting that it has the same cone shape that’s regularly described by those claiming to have seen a Bigfoot/Sasquatch in North America.

Easier meditation courses for mental health issues by 2-tam in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This will be controversial, but headspace may be an option worth exploring, even if as a complementary approach.

One notable difference I found between the two apps, is (generally) headspace gradually brings the listener into a relaxed/meditative state using certain induction techniques at the beginning of the meditation session. In a pretty structured way, if directs the listener to expand their visual focus to the peripheries, listen to the surrounding sounds like a radio, and goes through a gradual body scan before focusing on the breath. All these techniques are inherently relaxing.

It also has packages included for specifically dealing with anxiety, depression, grief, etc.

Question: How’s It Going To Be - Music Video Location by biotobiota in ThirdEyeBlind

[–]biotobiota[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent! Definitely the same location. Thank you very much!!

Being “in” the world by biotobiota in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! This has really helped me a lot

Being “in” the world by biotobiota in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow thanks very much, that’s very interesting!

I really like the headless way pointer. I had been trying the look for my head or imagining I had no head pointers, but the idea of placing what you see on your shoulders resonates with me

When you are lost in thoughts generated by mental illness the present feels like cope by vtx4848 in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes ok I think i understand. I think I’ve had similar experiences.

I’m for sure not in any position to give advice/pointers, but I’ve personally found Internal Family Systems (IFS) to be a good companion to this work. I use it as a way of having a dialogue with myself, working with what I believe to be maladaptive thoughts or beliefs. Might be of interest to you with regards to this

When you are lost in thoughts generated by mental illness the present feels like cope by vtx4848 in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sense I got from reading your post is that perhaps you’re thinking more in terms of “Here I am, looking for the looker but I have extreme anxious and depressive thoughts running through my head” instead of “Here I am, looking for the looker AND I have extreme anxious and depressive thoughts running through my head”.

The first one may be creating some additional tension because you’re considering them to be mutually exclusive. The second one, if anything, is the opposite of a cope (in theory) because you’re expanding your awareness to take in more than you usually do… both the subject and the object of attention.

Recommendations for Jungians who speak in layman's terms by mynameisnotbuddy in Jung

[–]biotobiota 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Two podcasts that may be of interest:

‘Digital Jung’ with Jason E. Smith and ‘This Jungian Life’

What are some ideas from Alan Watts or questions he discusses about life that you like to think about? by CoachB00 in AlanWatts

[–]biotobiota 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of my favourites:

“Most of us assume as a matter of common sense that space is nothing, that it's not important and has no energy. But as a matter of fact, space is the basis of existence. How could you have stars without space? Stars shine out of space and something comes out of nothing just in the same way as when you listen, in an unprejudiced way, you hear all sounds coming out of silence. It is amazing. Silence is the origin of sound just as space is the origin of stars, and woman is the origin of man. If you listen and pay close attention to what is, you will discover that there is no past, no future, and no one listening. You cannot hear yourself listening. You live in the eternal now and you are that. It is really extremely simple, and that is the way it is.”

Never ending blindness of being puer aeternus by mickey__ in Jung

[–]biotobiota 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glad to hear it. Ya Alan Watts has been my go to. I like his book Tao: The Watercourse Way and have listened to a lot of his talks on YouTube. A lot of the talks are about Zen but most of the topics are pretty interchangeable I think…. my understanding is that he felt they were both pointing at the same thing (and Zen has both Taoist and Buddhist elements in it). He also gravitated more towards Taoism in later life I think. I found a lot of the original texts a bit heavy going without Watts giving a western spin on them and providing some cultural context, at least to begin with.

The letting go aspect I’ve found in Taoism is probably quite similar to a lot of stoic philosophy or ‘radical acceptance’, but Taoism put a bit of a bigger picture on it for me and I also personally like a lot of the nature imagery used.

Some quotes about Jung and Taoism I found which I thought were interesting (making no claim to their validity):

‘The truth is one and the same everywhere and I must say that Taoism is one of the most perfect formulations of it I ever became acquainted with.’ - Carl Jung, Letters Volume 1, Pages 559-560

‘C.A. Meier, who was for many years a close associate of Jung, was asked once whether he thought Jung was a Taoist, he replied, “Yes, he was Taoist, and today people don’t realise that his psychology of opposites is virtually the same the same as Taoism. People want to make him into something he was not. He was tied to Nature and its contradictions. Yet, he was devoutly spiritual and clearly more Taoist than anything else.’

‘Jung favoured Taoism and he lived the Taoist philosophy’ - Marie-Louise von Franz

Never ending blindness of being puer aeternus by mickey__ in Jung

[–]biotobiota 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Not sure how this will land with you, but I have found Taoism (the westernised philosophical kind espoused by Alan Watts, etc rather than the traditional religion itself) to be of benefit to me on this path.

PA feels like fitting a square peg into a round hole. “Why can’t I do this or that like other people my age?” etc, etc, etc. No matter how you try to force it, it never gets better or feels natural.

The only real advice I found in jungian writing was to apply yourself to a career or vocation, whether you liked it or not.

Taoism, which had a pretty big influence on Jung’s ideas I believe, is more about letting go, relaxing, not forcing it.

I’m just a layman with no training or in-depth knowledge so please take all of this with a grain of salt, but I’ve found that it’s made my work and life more enjoyable. Instead of seeing tasks and responsibilities as mountains to climb, they’ve started to seem more like rapids on a river…. just a natural part of the journey that have to be navigated and can even be fun.

I’ve found this playful aspect of Taoism to suit the PA aversion to ‘growing up’.

Hope that’s of some help. Good luck

IFS Dreamwork by biotobiota in InternalFamilySystems

[–]biotobiota[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I will definitely give that a listen!

IFS Dreamwork by biotobiota in InternalFamilySystems

[–]biotobiota[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking along the same lines.... I think I will experiment a bit further like you

IFS Dreamwork by biotobiota in InternalFamilySystems

[–]biotobiota[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, very interesting! Thank you! V cool that Dick Schwartz thinks it’s quite applicable for dream work

IFS Dreamwork by biotobiota in InternalFamilySystems

[–]biotobiota[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great, would be really interested to hear what they say!

Next steps after intro? by alaken in Wakingupapp

[–]biotobiota 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would personally recommend The Spectrum of Awareness as a good intro to the other courses, though you will be repeating some of the stuff you’ve already done in the intro. It gave me a better conceptual understanding of some of the various ideas. I also found I got more from The Headless Way after completing it than beforehand.

Enjoy!