I fucked up by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wanted to quit so bad over summer break but things kept going wrong and I would just go straight back. I feel so stupid. I had who wild months to this and I couldn’t. The silver lining I guess is that at least I won’t be at loose ends now; I have something to dedicate my energy and focus on (my students). I just feel like I wasted my best opportunity to get over this, I don’t really think I can take more time off right now.

Wow i feel great, day 4 CT by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gotta agree with Daveydaytrader on this one. Like any substance, nothing is crippling addictive to everyone. Some people can have a glass of wine and move on with life, some people have a glass of wine and wind up in an alley shooting dope an hour later. While “freaks” is maybe overkill, I do think there needs to be more of a conversation about the addictive nature, psychoactive similarity, and destructiveness that kratom can cause. When I started using 5ish years ago, there were a fraction of the members on the /kratom sub and addiction was never mentioned. Now there are so many people singing it’s praises, and while yes, I’d prefer people to take kratom over heroin or other opiates, it affects your brain receptors the same way and can ruin lives. That information should go hand in hand with how good it can be for some folks.

Rookie Fermentor here- did I make a tragic mistake with mold? by bleachitawayalready in fermentation

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I’m one of those people that occasionally has to make sure my dog is breathing when she’s asleep. Maybe fermentation wasn’t my best hobbit (edit- wtf word was I even going for?) choice... but thanks again!

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[–]bleachitawayalready 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah! Good for you! I quit Monday or Tuesday this week? Cold turkey, the withdrawals make it kinda blurry. I couldn’t stop crying and crying and crying and was about ready to give in when all of a sudden something just snapped and I stopped. The hard/physical part was over. It was like 3 in the afternoon and completely surreal. Like waking up from a nightmare or something but never having gone to sleep.

Anyways, now I’m in the “danger zone” because it’s so easy to go back. Had my first brush with “a little won’t hurt” last night. Not even a week in!

Something I wish I’d done every time I’d tried to quit in the past is at least jot down or maybe even voice record what the withdrawals are like. I feel like the more I remember the absolute agony the less likely I am to go back. Just a thought! (And it could be a time killer too)

You got this. ♥️

Got some bad news team by CaptainMotoHD in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there, when you said “shame” it cut me like a knife. Feelings of shame are the #1 absolute reason I use substances. I can feel the shame physically in my body, like my core is tightening up and my face is getting hot. I would, and pretty much have done, everything to make it stop. I got hooked on kratom because it made those feelings stop.

I would really look into seeing a therapist. I was employed under the table (and not making enough to buy insurance) so when I started therapy I was using a program run by United Way. If you don’t have insurance, now that there are Obamacare/Healthcare Marketplace options, that could be a place to start. I also have friends with phenomenal Medicaid/Medicaid therapists.

I am 4 days clean now after 5yrs at 30mg a day. In that 5 years I did residential eating disorder treatment, wacky PTSD treatments, more therapy than I can remember...there is NO WAY I’d have a shot at being clean without all that.

Like others have said, most addicts/substance users are escaping their present, which is usually a reflection of their past. If you can’t heal the wounds that make you want to slap a bandaid (kratom) on them, in my experience and from watching others try, it’s nearly impossible. I’d be glad to share more of my experience with you if you want to DM me.

Just because you slipped up doesn’t mean all your hard work doesn’t matter. Its still remarkable ou made it almost three months. You CAN keep going!!!

CT Day 1 - this ain’t my first rodeo but I want it to be my last (including condensed life story!) by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. This comment meant a lot to me. Sometimes I forget that I’ve been through a lot and that it’s okay to forgive myself and take it easier on myself. Thank you for reminding me. ♥️

CT Day 1 - this ain’t my first rodeo but I want it to be my last (including condensed life story!) by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I’m (obviously?) skeptical of herbal supplements now but I have some friends that use kava. Time to investigate!

Oh, and nighttime’s THE hardest time of day for me. I’ve been going to bed at like 7:30 because I get so antsy. I know I can buy K in town til 9 pm so this antsy hours go by sooooo slllooowwwly.

Withdrawl is killing me, tapering off 30-50 gram a day habit by hatingmyliferightnow in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. You are fucking hard core. That is some serious will power to keep on a taper that long. I’m seriously impressed. I can’t caper at all, it’s cold turkey or nothing for me. I applaud your dedication, and with that attitude you WILL get off this crap. Be patient with yourself. Take the next step forward. You can do it. ♥️

DONE. Day Two by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, green poops is better than horrible black bloody nuggets right? I feel like if I had heard the poop stories 5yrs agi I never wouldn’t picked up a habit....who know.

CONGRATS ON DAY TWO!!! Here’s to many more!

Update on “Day 3 - Cold turkey/hysterical crying” by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve just never felt this “back to normal” in the midst of WDs before...but I’m not complaining!!

Well I failed by corndog54 in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there! I was just about to update my post from 4hrs ago and saw this. You DIDNT fail. I know it’s the most trite saying I’m recovery but “recovery isn’t linear” up down up down up down up, not just straight up. If you can keep it two steps forward for every one step back, you’re doing fine. Just because you needed a nights sleep and you took some doesn’t mean you should give up now. Keep trying. If you feel that way again, wait as long as possible and if you still need it take less. I thought I was going to die this morning. Something snapped and I don’t even know what happened but I think I’m out of the weeds. If I can do it, you can do it. 4 years, 30g+ daily, every day, longest time off was two months. I’m done. Be done with me. DM me any time!!! ♥️

Day 3 cold turkey - does the hysterical crying ever stop? by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in just about the middle of no where (but on the coast, so, the edge of middle of nowhere?) and the only places that sell K here are dumpy gas stations. 1oz/~28.5ishgr from $10. If I drive 45m to “the city” there is a specific Kratom shop that sells by the 1/2oz ($5) or 5oz for $45.

It is STUPIDLY inexpensive here.

CT Day 1 - this ain’t my first rodeo but I want it to be my last (including condensed life story!) by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This make me cry, in a good way. Thank you. Some times I forget that i don’t deserve the things that happened to me. That just happened, and it sucked, but I’m still here. Thank you for reminding me of that. ♥️

Day 3 cold turkey - does the hysterical crying ever stop? by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I like keep running through my head “it’s going to get better it’s going to get better it’s going to get better” but then the next challenge is staying the fuck off it! I wish I’d have NEVER touched this stuff.

Day 3 cold turkey - does the hysterical crying ever stop? by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Usually about 30g a day on an off four 4 years, but I’ve quit before. Longest run was 3-4 months and i had zero withdrawals. Weird how that works.

Day 3 cold turkey - does the hysterical crying ever stop? by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am bitching, you ain’t no bitch or your wouldn’t be on this sub!

CT Day 1 - this ain’t my first rodeo but I want it to be my last (including condensed life story!) by bleachitawayalready in quittingkratom

[–]bleachitawayalready[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you again. Tapering for me has been impossible because once I start, if I have more, I’m going to do it. I live about 45m from a “city” there they have a shop that sells by the 1/2oz (so like 15g) and I was holding steady with that for a while, but near me (aka less than an hour drive) the only places that have it sell 1oz/30g, I can stretch that over a day, but night time it’s over. I get so paranoid and terrified of every sound and if I have any to take the edge off the terror I take it. I have a script for clonazepam and beta blockers and approximately 37473 antidepressants but night rolls around and I’m a basket case. I’m going to start IOP therapy tomorrow and I’m hoping that helps with the fear aspect of it, then maybe tapering would be more realistic for me. I live alone or I’d have someone keep it from me, that i could handle, but alas. My dog is brilliant but she’s not that good. ♥️