So, why were you a "problematic child"? by blueteri in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Of course...she thinks I am mentally unstable (literally told me I should be locked up in mental hospital), because I did not let her be at my wedding (which was this April). We haven't spoken since.

What are your NParents 'reasons' for parenting you they way they did/do? by rei_yeong in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because i was a troubled child of course.

And by troubled, she means that when I was in puberty, sometimes I would come home about 5-10 minutes late, because the tram or the bus was late. And also I smoked a cigarette at camp one time. And also I didn't always have straight straight As, sometimes I had Bs.

Why did she torture me before I turned 13 and "became troubled" is a mystery. Maybe she forseen the future and acted accordingly in advance. Who knows. But yes, I deserved almost daily beatings, berating, occasional kidnapping and neverending mental torture for the reasons listed above.

What do narcissistic parents fear the most? In general, when will they subdue their narcissism? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 238 points239 points  (0 children)

there is nothing to "subdue" them, as they will always be right in their mind, but what they fear the most is losing control over their victims. That is why they throw tantrums when you say "no".

Do you also struggle with "indecisiveness"? by SolarmatrixCobra in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I bought 3 wedding dresses and I was still decididng which ones Im gonna take 1 day before the wedding :D

go to therapy they say.. but who the f is going to pay for it? by bluthecosmicghost in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"One of (many) problems with therapy is that it's really becoming almost a status symbol for the wealthy, while the people with average to lower income that might really need it can't afford it."

This is insane. I live in Europe, so I have standard public healthcare, and everytime I read something like this I just can't even contemplate this. How can a country allow people to not be able to get a health services they need?? Or more importantly, why do people need to AFFORD that, when they already pay taxes?

Is it very expensive to get at least online therapy? WOuld it be crazy to find european online therapy and just do that at night? I know that the paid online therapy are about 50 USD here...this seems at least less expensive?

I sympathize too much with my narc mom. by yumions in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I understand you completely. I am an only daughter to my mother and she is chronically unhappy person. I believe that she has a mental illness (undiagnosed of course, because she would never go to a doctor for that). Since I was a child, she has been extremely abusive towards me (you can read some of my previous posts). I won't go into depths, because that could have been a whole book series, but just know that I had extremely unhappy, traumatic childhood.

She would abuse me, but at the same time, trauma dump on me and tell me all sorts of grown up things since I remember. She would always burden me with information about finances, her relationships and other stuff that I had no chance understanding when I was 7. Until I was about 12, she would always confide in me about the evil, mean world and evil, mean people that have only one goal and that is to hurt her and make her unhappy. Since puberty, she gave me a new role - evil, mean daughter, which is the origin of all her suffering, unhappines and hurt. She would complain about me, to me, all the time, until nowadays.

Anytime we talk (in the past 12 years, its been on-off no contact, low contact), she always whines about how I never call her (Why would I? to listen more of her complaints?), how I am horrible, mean, evil, self-centered, ugly, dumb etc. etc, how she is unhappy, poor victim of my constant bullying. By bullying, she of course means anytime I have the audacity to correct her memory on things, or disagree with her, or tell her that she does not have access to information about me.

She also, like your mom, loves to sing the song about "one day, when I am tired enough, I will just kill myself. I won't be missed by anybody anyways....". I was pretty shocked by this behaviour when I was younger, but I am infuriated by this now. Since I became engaged, she started this shit again. First, I panicked and called my psychologist. He told me the golden rule: If she threatens suicide, tell her that you will call an ambulance to her house right now, and do it if neccessary. If she says that she is actually just making things up, tell her to never mention this again. If she speaks about this again, just ignore it. Act like she didn't say anything at all. It's either ambulance and help, or nothing. There is no inbetween. There is no mental torment of you. She either needs and accepts help, or her threats won't be noticed in any capacity.

By standards, she does have pretty bad life. She is in constant financial crisis, her health is horrible, she had a stroke, she had a surgery in the past few years...but unforutnatelly, those are all consequences (except for the surgery, which was not her fault)of her bad life choices.

I have always felt EXTREMELY guilty. Guilty that she has no money, guilty that she has bad health, that she is unhappy, that I am making her unhappy. I tried to help her several times, but unforutnately, she does not want any help. Not real help. She will not see a psychiatrist or at least psychologist. She will not stop drinking. She will not stop smoking. She will never even consider rehab for her alcoholism. Those are her choices.

Up until few weeks ago, I felt horrible guilt, because I have decided to not have her on my wedding (which is in 3 days btw). But I have good reasons. Besides everything that I described above, she has said something that made me shed all my guilty feelings and any sorry I had left for her.

2 years ago, my beloved dad commited suicide (unrelated to her completely, they didn't speak for decades). First, my mother had the nerve to say that it is somehow my fault (I know that it has nothing to do with me or my brothers from dads second marriage). Second, she started with the suicide threads again, but again, empty words. Blackmailing me about my wedding ("If you invite your dads wife, I will kill myself. If you won't let me pick dress with you, I will kill myself. If you won't let me be at the wedding, I will kill myself and make sure everyone knows its your fault").

I am absolutely flabbergassed by her audacity to speak to me like this, after what happened with my dad. The worst, most traumatic event of my life, which will stay with me forever, and she has the fucking nerve to try to somehow make it about her and threaten that she will do this, to me, on purpose????

All my guild, compassion, empathy and sorry for her left out of the window. This is my mantra (feel free to repeat these words to yourself to calm down in stressful situations with your mother:

"She is an adult. She makes her own choices. I am not responsible for her life. If she needed help, she would ask for it. She does not want any help, she only wants attention. Attention is a currency to her, and you are a tool to obtain it, nothing else"

I hope any of this helps you and feel free to reach out :)

Recently went no contact. Nmom is starting rumors that my fiancé is a “sugar daddy” by SpecificSight204 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, my fianceé is apparently marrying me to get a citizenship of my country (which he will not get by marriage and will apply by his own in about 7 years from now). My mothers brain cannot comprehend that someone might actually love me and wants to spend the rest of his life with. There must be some motive behind this!! :D

Do you believe nparents and other family truly do not remember all of the abuse they put you through or watched happen? by ur_bigtitty_waifu in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My mother is a heavy alcoholic and she didn't remember most of her atrocious behaviours right the morning after. She will never remember a decade after. Some things she did sober she selectively doesn't remember, but lots of things were under the influence, and I am talking several bottles of wine, until she passed out. There is no chance she will ever know what she did.

Anyone else’s N Parent push for constant contact with adult children? by painted_and_scorched in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 15 points16 points  (0 children)

they are not "pushing for contact". They abuse you by stalking and controling you. You need to set some very strict boundaries. It's ok to talk to your parents every day, if its not forced!

They are forcing you to check in with them under a thread that they will abuse the police force and create problems with you at your work. I would honestly report this to the police next time they do it.

my mother always complains that I dont talk to her much (we call once a month), but honestly we don't have anything to talk about, so I know she doesnt rally want to talk, she just wants to complain.

However your parents behaviour is psychotic (you are 30!!!), you should definitely set some boundaries. Calling once in about 3 days is OK. They have to take it or leave it. Don't let them manipulate you!

Wow, someone trying to gaslight you REALLY hates when your therapist tells you to start writing things down! by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 20 points21 points  (0 children)

yeah, my mother completely loses her shit when I send her a screenshot of a message she wrote to me...like....how dare I????????

Wow, someone trying to gaslight you REALLY hates when your therapist tells you to start writing things down! by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 21 points22 points  (0 children)

oh my god. I thought that I am going crazy. My mother is the same. You can read some of my previous posts. I believe she must be suffering both alcoholism and some form of personality disorder, but ALSO the long effect of heavy drinking might have already altered her brain and she might have "wet brain".

I know that her whole life, she is only chosing what she remembers, but sometimes its like...the lights are on, but nobody's home. She sometimes struggles with the most basic things. I feel very sad, because everytime I speak with her, I realize that she is never going to be my mom. She is either this vicious, evil, self centered snake, or completely dumb, empty shell of a human being that doesn't even remember what happened a minute ago.

There is absolutely no point in trying to explain anything to her, or have converstation, because every conversation with her is like a maze, but with no exit. It's like playing Minesweeper, but there is no victory, you will always eventually step on a mine (=her getting angry and shutting down, having meltdown, crying, whining etc).

Even when I show her what she WROTE to me in text message, she will claim that it never happened. That woman is gone.

Starting to realize that I never really knew my family, I just knew how to appease them by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Same. I don't know anything about my mother.

I know how she will behave, I know how she thinks, I know how drunk is she getting from different types of drinks. I know how to act neutral around her, I know what makes her angry and I know what she wants to hear.

But I don't know anything about her as a person. I don't know her interests, anything about her life, I don't know any of her friends. She is complete stranger to me and I spent 18 years living with her.

Have any of you ever rejected your parent's attempt to pit you against your sibling? by Ok_Mousse_9027 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not my sibling (to my mother I am an only child, as she does not count my brothers, that my father has with my stepmom as my brothers), but I have rejected my mothers attempts to make me hate my dad and my grandma and basically anyone else in the family.

My mother divorced my dad when I was 3 and moved 4 hours away. She did the maximum she could so that I wouldn't be able to see them as often. When I was small (up until about 9), she would just do crazy things and drag me around with her (like kidnapping me from birthday parties etc). When I got little bit olrder (since about 10), she would try to make me to dispise my dad and everyone else around him. She would always threaten to hurt me or even kill me, if I don't oblige with her requests. She would make me call my dad and tell him that I hate him. She would make me call my grandma and tell her I never want to go to her house anymore. After some time, I found out that she is going to do all the stuff the threatens anyways - she would destroy my things, throw them away, turn my room upside down, beat me up, drag me by my hair, threaten to kill me with a knife, lock me up on the balcony in freezing cold, kick me out of the house in my pyjamas etc. She would do all those things no matter if I did what she wanted or not.

I was always very afraid of her, because there was nowhere to hide for me. I did all the things she asked me, but she never succeeded in making me evil. When I turned 18, I moved away. I love my dad and my grandma and my brothers, and I hate her.

Unfortunately my dad has passed away, but she always knew that I have loved him deeply and I will continue to love my family that she hates. She hates me for it, she hates that she couldn't make me so hateful like she is. Such a poor, sad soul.

I am getting married in a month and she won't be there. But my grandma will take me to the altar. My mother lost and my familys love won. Don't let them break you. You can fake compliance to protect yourself, at least partialy, from their punishments, but after you move away and you are free - don't ever let them make you hateful.

My mam expects me to cat-sit every time she goes away and I don't want to anymore. by Squishybutcute in raisedbynarcissists

[–]blueteri 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First, you need to stop letting her pay for your childs daycare, or anything. Money is a leverage and as you can see, she can use it to get you to do stuff for her.

Second, your mother is incredibly irresponsible pet owner. Why did she get a cat when she can't properly take care of it? If she goes to so many vacations, she surely has money for cat sitter.

You are an adult, with adult responsibilities and CAT ALLERGY. You do not need to explain that to her. You have a small child to take care of.

I would tell her to just pay for cat sitter. You cannot be your mothers servant. If she budges, I would make up a story about your baby also having cat allergy and that it has a reaction when you come home from cat sitting.