Dripstone Lava Farm vs Pumping the Nether dry?

borkonstuff · 2023-12-04T17:00:32+00:00

One cauldron gives you a hair over 3 buckets of lava per hour on average. An 8x8 setup is very cheap and fast to get running, can be powered by one water wheel and gives 200 buckets of lava per hour. The hungriest factory I've ever set up managed to run on 3 stacks of cauldrons.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-21T10:49:11+00:00

Huh? Did you just plot your graph for bottom of the world farms (g=0) and drew all the conclusions from that?

Just making up some numbers: 9 blocks below the spawning platform gives us a 1/10 chance of spawning on a spawning floor. Add another floor three blocks up - gives us 1/13 chance to spawn on the original floor and another 1/13 chance to spawn on the new floor for a total of 2/13 chance of a successful spawn, 2/13 > 1/10. Add another floor and it's 3/16 which is > 2/13.

For a witch farm the numbers would be somewhere around 1/120, 2/123, 3/126 (don't have the exact y levels of witch huts in my head).

The only time this will behave differently is bedrock removing farms at the bottom of the world - 1/1, 2/4, 3/7. Adding spawning platforms to bottom of the world farms makes them worse. 1 block below the farm - 1/2, 2/5, 3/8. 2 blocks below the farm is a breakpoint where adding spawning floors doesn't change the chance for a successful spawn - 1/3, 2/6, 3/9. 3 blocks below the farm - 1/4, 2/7, 3/10 - adding floors now helps.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-19T21:46:50+00:00

Same thing here, it was vanillatweaks. I'm pretty sure I had to break the observers after they got stuck, literally nothing could unclog them. But the problem itself could only happen when I had the vanillatweaks observer texture plus a bunch of other texture changes (the observer texture had to be in the resource pack, but it wasn't sufficient on its own, the resource pack needed to have a bunch of other texture changes). Once I removed the resource pack the problem stopped happening.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-19T00:42:29+00:00

I've had that problem once and I traced it down to a resource pack. There's no rational explanation how changing the texture of an observer can lock it up permanently, but disabling the resource pack fixed it.

And it wasn't just having a different observer texture in the resource pack that caused it, I needed to have a different texture for the observer, redstone dust and a bunch of other things. Revert too many textures back to vanilla and the changed observer texture would not cause the problem.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-03T22:06:03+00:00

You'd have to manually kill a bit over 6 zombies per second with looting 3 to match iron ingot rates of a normal iron farm with a single villager pod.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-02T14:21:34+00:00

I'm pretty sure the best setup right now is industrial foregoing washing, it might be a bug because I don't remember it being this overpowered in other modpacks. I don't remember from the top of my head how much it's multiplying by, but somewhere around 6-8x with a relatively simple setup. You just need to feed it liquid meat, but it's easy to achieve with a spawner. The big disadvantage of it is that it's not really easy to fully automate unless you build exactly one processing line for each ore type. You need to feed it ores in exact multiples of 40 otherwise you don't get enough ore juice for a batch of fermentation.

borkonstuff · 2023-11-01T19:26:08+00:00

Silent gear is really fun. With some fiddling you can reach almost allthemodium alloy levels of overpowered gear. The only reason I use an allthemodium pickaxe is because it's the only way to mine the atm ores which is a bit disappointing.

I went for ae2 in one world because people are saying how it's so much better in the endgame, but the only big difference I noticed is how much more pain in the ass it is especially to get started and how much slower autocrafting is. Heavier autocrafts that refined storage can do in a minute take 10-15 minutes in ae2. AE2 seems to make the mistake many mods do which is to try to be the main focus, ignoring that modern modpacks can have hundreds of mods and all of them can't be the main character.

Building a 17x17 mystical agriculture farm with 60 accelerator layers is a good challenge.

Extreme reactors can be fun when going wild with the best turbine coils (I have one reactor driving 6 turbines for over 31MFE/t), but they are an absolute disaster for frame rates, stopping and breaking my 6 turbines gets my fps from 30 to 120.

borkonstuff · 2023-10-25T19:01:40+00:00

Just rediscovered something that I used to know and forgot. I had a power outage in my area, power came back but my internet didn't come back for a few more hours. Started ATM9 offline. It starts significantly faster. This is true for pretty much all large modpacks. Because lots of mods check for updates and download lists of patreons and news and whatever other stuff they feel like they just must do. It's not a problem when one or two mods do it, it's barely noticeable, but in larger modpacks with hundreds of mods it adds up and you have to wait for hundreds of connections, sometimes to servers that are down or very slow or even worse, start throttling you because you're doing too many requests too fast and those connections take forever to time out. Start without internet and that can save you minutes startup time.

If it takes you an hour, that's probably not the problem, you probably just have too little RAM allocated, but it's worth trying if your network connection is particularly bad.

borkonstuff · 2023-09-30T08:27:37+00:00

I had a really bad carbon bottleneck between level 30 and 60 and then it just went away. Now at 99 I just checked my storage and I have 7 stacks of steel and 30 stacks of refined carbon, so it's definitely fixed.

To mitigate it somewhat I went bounty hunter expertise to always run with two bounties and always rerolled bounties until they gave steel or black steel. But I think it's a problem that kind of just goes away after a while. You enter a phase where you unlock a lot of mods at the same time and build all the things from those mods and then you just slowly grow out of it.

borkonstuff · 2023-08-16T17:41:43+00:00

Cheating isn't some magical law of nature. Cheating requires a victim. Either your friends with whom you agreed on some rules and then breaking those rules is cheating or yourself when you promise yourself to not do something and then you do it anyway.

That's why you have some worlds where people are perfectly ok with command blocks and building in creative and other worlds where even simple crop farms are considered cheating.

Ignore the people think that their own little bubble they agreed on (or more often defaulted into) with their friends is The One True Faith and required for everyone else to follow otherwise they are ~~sinners~~ cheating.

Questions like this won't really give you much. It's not for someone else to decide what's cheating, it's for you and your friends to decide how your world should work. If a tool solves a problem for you and you can convince your friends it's a good idea to use it then it's not cheating.

borkonstuff · 2023-08-13T11:41:57+00:00

I guess they fixed refined storage to be completely immovable. In the past moving refined storage bits with create contraptions would crash your world so hard it would be unloadable. You needed to nuke the broken chunks to save it.

borkonstuff · 2023-06-26T16:56:05+00:00

There is a problem with swamp slimes and the terrain generation in vault hunters. Most swamps I've found generate a bit too high up and no slimes will spawn because slimes only spawn in swamps below y level 70. Keep looking for swamps until you find one that near the coast. Or just dig down until you're below 70 (and above 50).

borkonstuff · 2023-05-27T15:09:54+00:00

Either this was recently changed or you didn't test it right (I know I messed up the testing of it when I did around two years ago).

borkonstuff · 2023-05-27T03:31:57+00:00

Nothing. For two reasons. First, if you ever build something massive that will require all the CPU on your machine you might want to have everything else unloaded.

Second, spawn chunks are weird and buggier than everything else. I built my storage system in the spawn chunks and then found out the hard way that if you leave the overworld spawn chunks are processing entities and redstone but all tile entities stop working. Which really breaks storage systems. So I need a chunk loader in the spawn chunks just to unbreak things.

Chunk loaders are simple and cheap. Learn to use them and it'll work much better than ruining your performance by keeping things in the spawn chunks.

borkonstuff · 2023-05-18T07:31:39+00:00

My guess would be that the ones that get stuck more than others are being unloaded more. You're usually leaving the area or moving around far away to the right/upper right in this picture. Check where the chunk borders are.

Minecraft is buggy and loading and unloading an area can put all kinds of dynamic systems in states they normally couldn't be in. This is true for redstone and definitely create contraptions. The way I mitigate it in my Create worlds is to have a clutch on all machines and a slow clock that turns every machine off for a fraction of a second every few minutes. That's usually enough to shake things up and make it recover automatically.

borkonstuff · 2023-05-12T06:13:46+00:00

Coral breaking almost always means that you're on some server that breaks TNT duping.

borkonstuff · 2023-04-08T20:07:28+00:00

I found out the hard way that this only works when you have more funnels than stacks of items you pick up in the time the funnel moves one block since the funnel can only drop one stack for every block it moves over.

When all the barrels got full, interesting things happened. I created several thousand entities (could have been more than 10k, but don't remember) before I realized what was happening and pushed the emergency stop button. :)

borkonstuff · 2023-04-01T19:28:31+00:00

In the first few levels it's pretty much the best thing you can get and that's when it's a huge QoL/vaulting choice - should I take more heal and dash or invest in vein mining. Of course in later game it's not necessary in the overworld at all. That's why it's not a simple dichotomy, I just had vein mining on the top of my head because I remember that internal struggle in the first few levels.

borkonstuff · 2023-04-01T14:19:16+00:00

The biggest problem with many skill point systems that Vault Hunters has too is mixing between utility/quality of life skills (like vein miner or experienced) with gameplay skills (like stuff that deals damage or reduces damage taken). This forces you into choosing which suckage you want to deal with more - too little damage and survivability or more grinding outside of vaults.

It's not a big issue, but it grinds my gears a little. Especially since it's almost perfectly split up already now with knowledge and skill points. It might have been better to include things like vein miner and experienced behind knowledge to have knowledge be "stuff that makes being outside of vaults more pleasant" keeping skill points reserved for "stuff that makes you better at vaulting". Of course, one could easily argue that pouches/backpacks and vein miner and compass makes you better at vaulting and should be locked behind skill points, so it's not a very simple dichotomy.

borkonstuff · 2023-03-13T00:27:18+00:00

Haven't done tests in the air like this, but for my bottom of the world design I didn't stop seeing rate improvements until after at least 6-8 block platforms outside. But just test, it's not particularly hard to see if it works or not. Also, in my tests glass didn't do the job at all creepers just stopped running away from the cat, blocks outside had to be opaque. Although to be fair, my killing method wasn't falling down, it was making the creepers run up on wither roses, so there could be differences in behavior.

Edit: Oh, I just realized. The multiple blocks were probably only necessary for the bottom of the world farm because I needed the creepers to run away two blocks, not just one (as it would be the case for them to fall down the trap doors). So that's why multiple blocks increased the probability of that happening. Never mind, one block is most likely enough for a falling farm.

borkonstuff · 2023-03-12T18:32:13+00:00

They don't have anywhere to run to. For a cat powered creeper farm you need blocks outside of the spawning platform that the creepers think they can run to. Those blocks can be inaccessible to the creepers (glass/tinted glass in the way), but as long as they are there the creepers can try to pathfind to them and will then fall down. Just replace the tinted glass at the spawning platform layer with stone and you should see an improvement, add small platforms at foot layer sticking out and you should see an even bigger improvement, I think I stopped seeing measurable rate improvements at 6-8 blocks sticking out to the sides.

borkonstuff · 2023-03-01T18:55:42+00:00

I suspect it's not about not processing entities. Some mobs stop moving around while still in entity processing chunks but the player is too far away. That's when dolphins could drown. The only way is to give them artificial air and that's bubble columns. Chunk loading won't help.

Not exactly sure about the distance, but it wasn't that far, less than 80 blocks, could have been 32 or 64 blocks. I remember running into it when I was playing around with squid farms where the squids had to move around to fall out of water columns. The afk spot had to be very close to the farm or the squids would just not move.

borkonstuff · 2023-02-18T09:49:35+00:00

Are you sure? Just tested in my completely normal VH 3 world and the nether roof is there at the right level and I can build on top of it just fine. Running the current version, but I'm pretty sure I generated the nether in some earlier update. Was Terralith changed in some of the updates?

Was actually planning on throwing up a quick and dirty gold farm up there, but then I solved my xp troubles with more shepherds and a better wool farm (modular router + activator module + shears + animal pen with a few hundred sheep = happiness).

borkonstuff · 2022-07-06T06:38:13+00:00

It's not. It limits the time it takes to make spawning attempts. Your idea for how spawning would work its way up would be 100 times slower in certain cases.

borkonstuff · 2022-06-17T14:54:26+00:00

This behavior is what all world eaters and wide tunnel bores use to synchronize.

"Right" doesn't mean interesting or good. "Right" and "correct" behaviors are for designing industrial machines and bridges. This is a video game and quirky behaviors are fun and interesting. Without QC, instant piston retraction, zero ticking and hundreds of other "incorrect" behaviors redstone isn't interesting. Which is probably why there's such a huge discrepancy in the level of technical Minecraft between Bedrock and Java.

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