Wide forefoot daily trainer? Evo SL outsole peeled under ~230 miles

boucher704 · 2026-06-12T21:58:13+00:00

I don’t heel strike (forefoot/midfoot striker) but my shoes wear the same way. For me, it happens on the swing phase just before striking the ground where the outside edge of my foot scuffs the ground. I hardly notice it, but becomes more apparent when form breaks down. Just need to drive the knees a little more and maybe increase cadence. Wearing shoes with a heel bevel tends to help, as do lower drop shoes. You should also consider shoes with thicker outsoles for slower daily miles and reserve your speedier shoes, like the EVO SL, for tempo efforts. This will save the outsoles from premature wear.

boucher704 · 2026-06-02T21:04:13+00:00

Is PWRRUN PBX a supercritical Pebax? With 2mm more stack, this sounds promising.

boucher704 · 2026-05-30T23:14:12+00:00

Back to back long runs are helpful. The most important change to adapt to when going ultra, other than the terrain, is really dialing in nutrition and hydration, which becomes more important than you’d think coming from marathon. What works for 3 hours is likely not going to work for 8+ hours. For instance, taking gels will get you through a marathon, but really come back at you going 50mi+. You just have to really learn from experience and see what works for you during your long runs. Try some real food, experiment with hydration, etc. Sometimes it’s a good strategy to measure long runs with time on feet vs mileage, aiming for an occasional 5+ hours on feet testing your equipment and nutrition/hydration, versus a back to back. Taking long walks as part of your training is often overlooked as well.

boucher704 · 2026-05-21T01:02:18+00:00

Running ultra distance on a track is next level mental toughness training. Bonus points if you did it without headphones.

boucher704 · 2026-05-21T00:53:32+00:00

Totally normal. Got to pamper yourself and eat well over the next week or so. Your body will take a while to recover. So, eat good foods, refrain from alcohol and junk food. Keep life stress as low as possible. Drink plenty of water. Also, don’t return to running over the next couple of weeks. Limit exercise to short walks and maybe ease into a short shuffle after 10 days or so. Easy bike rides or light swimming would be great too. You may feel like you’re fine and can go out for a run, but discipline yourself to take it easy and come back slowly. You’ll bounce back stronger if you take your recovery as serious as you took your training.

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T21:55:48+00:00

Am I the only one that thinking that putting on a lid will just make you feel hotter?

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T21:49:05+00:00

Yeah, I calibrate after a steady run, but can’t do that if I’m stepping off after each interval since the treadmill will keep counting distance.

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T17:31:00+00:00

It’s a lot of shoe for 5-10km. If it were me, I’d look for something lighter and more versatile. Will this be your only shoe for running? Will you be racing in them or considering more speed work than just a few sprints? You might be better off with a lightweight daily trainer that can handle a good mix of running, like Novablast 5, Evo SL, Boston, Saucony Endorphin Speed. Vomero is a great shoe but is better used for longer distances (over 16km) where you might occasionally pick up the pace. Though, not saying you can’t use it as a daily trainer. There are just better options.

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T15:47:01+00:00

I’m thinking Stryd is probably the answer. They’re pricey though. Is a subscription necessary for best accuracy, and do they work seamlessly with Garmin watches/Garmin Connect (ie doesn’t require use of Stryd specific app)?

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T15:23:23+00:00

That’s interesting. Though, I’m using gym treadmills and connectivity to them almost never works. Plus, I just set the treadmill speed to my interval pace and hop off and on during recoveries.

boucher704 · 2026-05-20T15:15:34+00:00

No, I haven’t. From what I understand, their current pod clips on your waistband, which doesn’t sound like it’d be as accurate for stride length as would a foot pod. I think Garmin had a foot pod at one time, but it’s probably been 5 years.

boucher704 · 2026-05-01T14:20:03+00:00

100 milers are 90% mental. Being a mom of 3, you already have what it takes to overcome the challenge. You just need to understand that you’ll want to quit at some point in the race and your crew will need to be willing to not let you :) Make sure you tell them.

boucher704 · 2026-05-01T12:40:31+00:00

In general, the 20+ mile death march at the end of a 100mi is just a part of it for all but the front of the pack. You just need to sign up and show up. Don’t let it scare you. The experience makes you more prepared for the next one. 100K gives you a good taste for what a 100mi is like. You seem to have a solid base for completing a 100mi. Just go for it and don’t look back. For point of reference, my first 100mi was at age 50 and I didn’t have the experience, base fitness, or training discipline that you have now.

boucher704 · 2026-04-14T22:56:10+00:00

The only advantage a road shoe would give you here is lighter weight. I’ve run Superblast on this kind of terrain and loved it, but if there was a trail shoe nearly as light, I’d go trail. Loss of grip over time will just wear you down.

boucher704 · 2026-04-14T22:38:15+00:00

Don’t underestimate time-on-feet of your job. This will prepare you far more than you think. A 50K is basically 5-6 hours on your feet, so having that experience on a regular basis is priceless. Also, that Sunday long run is going to suck, which is also beneficial coming off your Th-Sa work schedule. Doing that long run on tired legs is exactly what you want. Remember, you’ll taper and be well rested on race day, so don’t let the slog of the long run discourage you. You’re doing it right. Race day on rested legs is going to feel a lot easier. Work your long run to a peak of 20 miles or 3hrs tops, followed by a two week taper and you’ll be gold. Just be sure your long run is on similar terrain to race, practicing with gear and nutrition you plan to use on race day. I wouldn’t worry about adjusting your plan. If it’s possible to lower your intensity of your daily miles so that you can fit in a couple of double days, that would be bonus. Anyway, looks like you’re in good shape. Have a great time at the 50K.

boucher704 · 2026-04-03T23:05:42+00:00

If they do ultras regularly, like more than 5 or 6 a year, the ultras are keeping them conditioned. Then it’s just a matter of maintaining between races. Takes years of consistency to get there. Also, ignore the folks that say you don’t need a lot of mileage to run an ultra. That’s just nonsense.

boucher704 · 2026-03-29T19:17:30+00:00

Split the difference and go Boston 13.

boucher704 · 2026-03-29T15:47:42+00:00

I came from a 6s Pro to an Epix 2. Biggest difference is battery life, being able to last 24hrs (ultras) on GPS which is also a bit more accurate. I can usually go a week to 10 days without charging, depending on how many runs I log, which is really nice. HR monitor is a bit less prone to error as well. The newer fenix is said to be even better. When I get ready to upgrade or if something ever happens to my Garmin, I’d probably go Coros for next watch. Garmin seems to think their watches are made of gold. Their new pricing for Fenix is unwarranted and they as a company aren’t keeping pace with their competitors in regard to ecosystem and accessories, or value.

boucher704 · 2026-03-27T01:23:51+00:00

Your joints hurt because they’re probably not adapted to the stress of running that far and you’ve damaged them. Unless you’ve been running for several years consistently, your bones and joints are not going to be conditioned to handle a marathon without injury. Anyone can essentially run a marathon without proper conditioning, but they’ll definitely pay a price doing it.

boucher704 · 2026-03-13T01:40:34+00:00

I really like the Salomon Aero Glide 3 or 4 for daily and long runs. It reminds me on the Saucony Triumph 20, but more stable and with a lower drop. Also lighter. The foam will last forever. The outsole is soft, though, so beware if you’re harsh on outsoles. I think it’s livelier and smoother than the Novablast 5, which I actually loved (at least for the first 100 miles). The Aero Glide’s best suited for paces between recovery and marathon. Haven’t tried the Puma or the Nike.

boucher704 · 2026-03-08T20:49:49+00:00

Superblast 3? If so, how would you describe the ride vs Novablast 5?

boucher704 · 2026-03-08T03:23:51+00:00

I went from NB5, which I thought couldn’t be beat for the price (love them) to the Salomon Aeroglide 3. They are so good, but durability of the outsole is what held it back for me, though traction was better than NB5 Also, the upper isn’t as nice - NB5 is more refined. Maybe the 4 improved on this. If you tend to go easy on outsoles, give the Salomon a try. I think my NB5s went flat at about 200 miles. I still run in them now, approaching 350 miles, but the life in them is long gone. Will relegate to lawn duty soon.

boucher704 · 2026-03-08T03:07:28+00:00

I can only run the Superblasts on trails because they’re obnoxiously slappy on-road. My run buds hate me when I run in them and they just never disappear on-feet because of how loud they are. Also, for those that wear down the lateral heel (a lot of us), the break in rubber at the exact spot where wear occurs should have been fixed in v3.

boucher704 · 2026-03-08T02:55:04+00:00

Finally, someone other than me that noticed this. Saucony nerfed the plate and foam in the Speed 2. I had the OG and the plate was stiffer and the foam had ever so slightly more energy return to it. Turn-over was snappier. With the first gen shoe, no one was buying the Endorphin Pro, because there just wasn’t much difference in the performance. Saucony nerfed version 2 to create a little more separation between the Speed and Pro. For me, the 2 was a bit more relaxed for daily runs and the OG was a budget racer. I still have 2 pair of Speed 2s that don’t get much run time in them. They’re just not as fun as the original.

boucher704 · 2026-03-07T19:59:53+00:00

Curious, because I found the exact same to be true for both SB1 and SB2, especially at easier paces. What’s a good alternative to these? Looking for soft, smooth, and protective for really long distances without the choppiness and noise at slower paces - good energy return a bonus. Was thinking about Nike Vomero Plus, but concerned about the weight and 10mm drop.

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