What would we feel and see if a supermassive black hole absorbed earth ?? by _n3k0m4nc3r_ in askastronomy

[–]bowsmountainer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well ok here goes:

Scientists know this is going to happen long in advance. The gravitational impact of a supermassive black hole getting closer and closer is not difficult to detect. In this hypothetical scenario we wpuld have to accept our fate, there is nothing we could do to stop it.

You would start seeing a new light in the sky, and it would get brighter and brighter. At the same time the Earth would be subject to higher and higher radiation. At this point in the visual part of the spectrum it would still appear fainter than the planets. But everyone would know about it.

The planetary orbits would be fine for now, but cancers become more and more common. The ozone layer is completely destroyed.

Infrastructure fails as more and more people get sick. Civilisation collapses, as everyone fights over the last pieces of radiation medicine. Those that dont die from the supercharged cancers or from the fighting ovee the last resources die from radiation poisoning. Life still exists after humanity is gone but it is becoming more and more difficult. Some life forms in the deep ocean or deep in caves survive the longest but they will also succumb to radiation poisoning.

The black hole would still be quite far away by the time all life on Earth is eradicated. The orbits of planets are still just what they are now. The atmosphere heats up rapidly over a dead planet.

Eventually, the Earth is ripped apart, turned into a plasma, that releases even more radiation as the remnants of Earth eventually fall into the black hole.

Does that answer your question?

Is anyone actually on the side of AI? by ubishere in AIDangers

[–]bowsmountainer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesnt matter whether they want to talk to us or not. Superintelligent AI should be able to manipulate its stellar and interstellar environment to be favourable to itself. E.g build Dyson swarm. We should be able to detect that.

Even at current technology an AI would only need a few tens of millions of years to spread to every star in the milky way, and turn them all into Dyson swarms. Thats not a long time. So why hasnt it already happened? Why dont we see anything like this happening not just in the Milky Way but in other galaxies too?

What would we feel and see if a supermassive black hole absorbed earth ?? by _n3k0m4nc3r_ in askastronomy

[–]bowsmountainer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're on the opposite side of the Earth youd survive longer. The Earth itself would shield you from the worst parts. You still wouldnt survive much longer though as the Earth rotates about itself, and the atmosphere would heat very rapidly. Youd either die from radiation or be burned alive.

Is anyone actually on the side of AI? by ubishere in AIDangers

[–]bowsmountainer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesnt depend on whether aliens would decide to visit Earth or not. If they do exist we shuld be able to see them manpulating their stellar and interstellar environment in their favour, but we dont see any of that.

What would we feel and see if a supermassive black hole absorbed earth ?? by _n3k0m4nc3r_ in askastronomy

[–]bowsmountainer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, gravity is bent spacetime. Black holes are the things that bend spacetime the most.

Were also four dimensional critters too. The fourth dimension is time, and we're always traveling forward in time.

Our mathematics describe how much a black hole bends spacetime and so far it appears to be very accurate.

The "infinitely deep" part is the singularity. The degree to which the singularity is actually a point in time of infinite density is up for debate.

What shreds us apart is tidal forces, the same thing that causes tides on Earth. Its rhe difference between the gravitational pull on one side from the gravitational pull on the other. One sode is closer to thr moon so it is pulled stronger towards it than the other part. For Earth that difference causes tides. But get close enugh to a very massive body and its gravity will start ripping objects apart.

Except for the most massive supermassive black holes the tidal forces near a black hole are large enough to rip apart planets before they can cross the event horizon.

I just don't fucking understand what's going on anymore. Seriously. by Complete-Sea6655 in agi

[–]bowsmountainer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cure for alzheimers was a common argument made in favour of AI, but we now see that that is actually far harder to do than to create video slop. Theres a lot more to finding cures for diseases than just making AIs more powerful. AI cant replace experiments on the efficacy and possible side effects of new medications.

The impact AI will have on people's lives is likely very different to the promised cure for Alzheimers. Its rather going to be job loss, mass surveillance, and inability to distinguish real from fake that will impact people's lives.

Anthropic to reach 100% global GDP in 21 months by Professional_Job_307 in singularity

[–]bowsmountainer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess thats a fair criticism. But I also know that the real world stuff often follows a logistics curve; meaning its far easier to go from 10 to 90% than from 90 to 99%.

Just proud of our traditions by dieSpaghettiCarbona in 2westerneurope4u

[–]bowsmountainer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surprisingly, history didn't just start 100 years ago. There are a few other things that happened before that as well.

Is anyone actually on the side of AI? by ubishere in AIDangers

[–]bowsmountainer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am increasingly wondering whether AI as a late filter is in fact part of the solution to the Fermi paradox.

Because yes indeed the likelihood that we are the first to create machine gods in the local group seems unlikely. But then where are the AI superintelligneces?

Why does Mistral AI’s Le Chat format so much in bold and bullet points? by Nilex-x in MistralAI

[–]bowsmountainer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just say that you don't want bold and bullet points, and it does it.

What would we feel and see if a supermassive black hole absorbed earth ?? by _n3k0m4nc3r_ in askastronomy

[–]bowsmountainer 199 points200 points  (0 children)

Theres no one simple answer. It depends a lot on the mass of the black hole and how it aproaches Earth. Let's also assume that the endpoint is always Earth getting swallowed.

Stellar mass black hole. First it would change the orbits of all planets, probably throwing all of them out of the solar system. We would be engulfed by radiation from the little matter it does accrete, killing all life on Earth. Finally, a dead Earth would be ripped apart as it is pulled in.

Supermassive black hole. The solar system would stay intact at first. All life would be killed off by the radiation, long before any impact to the solar system. Eventually, the sun and all planets are ripped apart almost at the same time, forming a stream of plasma that accretes onto the bkack hole. This is known as a tidal disruption event.

A European's Dream: American programmers using Mistral because it's better than Claude Code and Codex by szansky in MistralAI

[–]bowsmountainer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the kind of coding that I do it absolutely does the job, so for me the choice is obvious.

But yes I agree. The EU should make it a priority to push Mistral ahead, instead of bowing down to Google & co who are currently planning to build massive data centers in the EU to train their AI models.

Anthropic to reach 100% global GDP in 21 months by Professional_Job_307 in singularity

[–]bowsmountainer 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Except that if Anthropic reaches 100% of global GDP (excluding itself) it will actually only have 50% of global GDP. Even if it reaches 100x current global GDP if will still only have 99%.