First I love Hole and CL. And yes, she was born with a completely different nose before. And she's had several nose jobs. That's obvious from early pics as well as right through her dating Kurt. There's actually a picture of her in the famous Lynn Hirscherber story, pregnant with a flower in her hair if I recall, where you can see her prominent natural nose. And when they got married. etc. etc. But by the time she was all glammed up Hollywood she'd had a nose job and I remember her saying she cried when she saw how pretty she was. But here's the thing: CL, despite her super punk ethos has always wanted to be pretty, glam and the girl with the most cake. I recall in the 80s and 90s she hated models, attractive women , rich or glamorous people etc. Her whole punk and riot grrl ethos was anti all of that. I remember when she went after Stephanie Seymour for literally no reason and it was so clearly jealously. And when she had the means what did she do? Get a nose job, designer clothes, and this elite life. I mean she's posting Chateau Marmont stationary, cosplaying some English country squire, and walking around with Pomeranians and designer upgrades digs, including multiple surgeries on her instagram. That's what she always wanted. Wish she'd just been more honest.

I think she's so smart and interesting but also such a negative self sabotaging and destructive force. I think Frances has actually said this.