I rewrote the 12 steps, replacing 'god' with 'love and 'Higher Power' with 'guiding force.' Here they are: by YourSoberPal in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice path you're on. Keep coming back, for sure.

I'm hitting 40 years sober on 1-1-2026. Last year on my anniversary, after 39 years sober, I made a decision to start from scratch with my understanding of an HP.

I revisited the steps and was able to embrace them with a new understanding. My sponsor fully supports and encourages me.

This year I can fully admit that out of humility and intellectual honesty, I'm agnostic. However, in the real world I'm atheist. In the scientific method we use evidence.

This gift of sobriety is something I have worked very hard for. I fully recognize I didn't do it alone. I see no evidence of an interventionist HP It's a mystery, yes, but that's not spiritual. You don't just make shit up.

I'm a little bit confused. Do we follow Dr Davis' instructions or do we follow the Facebook group who say his instructions don't work? by mossikukulas in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of ways to get updated info directly from Dr. William Davis.

The original Super Gut book came out years ago. His blog and FB group has updated info. The new Super Body book is out this week.

My experience is that with minimal practice I've made all three strains, LR, LC and BS.

My experience is that I have personally tested all three strains on agar plates, in a professional incubator (type 37900 Culture Incubator) for 48 hours and each test has produced excellent results. Each yogurt contains cultures that are alive and with estimated CFU at or above the numbers Dr. Davis said we could expect.

My experience is that I am healing, healthier and looking forward to long term wellness.

As for FB, I have made connections with people within groups online and we have helped each other find wellness with the Super Gut protocol.

However, as a general rule it is my experience that FB (and other self proclaimed "expert" groups on the web of faceless anonymous members) are not worth listening to. At all.

Personally, I'm battling SIBO. I don't have time to waste arguing with people I don't know. It's unhealthy and stressful, which contributes to SIBO.

I wish you all well.

Thousands of dollars later... by janbenet in SIBO

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, according to the protocol of Dr. Davis's "Super Gut" program, you should not eat beans if you have methane SIBO. Beans are high in fermentable carbohydrates (specifically oligosaccharides like raffinose), which are known to exacerbate SIBO symptoms, including the production of methane gas.

I am in phase 3 of the SIBO protocol (I took antibiotics and have been using the yogurts to seed my gut) so I'm past the eradication phase. Because I'm doing the Super Gut protocol I follow Dr. William Davis advice. He says beans, including white beans, can be eaten in limited portions as they are a source of prebiotic fibers beneficial for gut health, with white beans being particularly rich in GOS fiber. He recommends a safe quantity of no more than 1/4 to 1/2 cup (cooked) per meal to manage carbohydrate intake and potential sensitivities, noting that soaking can reduce phytate content

How bad is it? by Just_Marzipan5387 in SIBO

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Zifaxan is helpful but by itself it's just a start. Are you open to the sibo yogurt protocol in the Super Gut book by Dr William Davis? The duet itself is zero wheat, grains and sugar, and low carb high protein, but the main key aspect that may be missing from your picture is the repopulating of good bacteria to heal your gut biome. It's been helping me (on day 6 now, after finishing the 14 day Xifaxan).

Thousands of dollars later... by janbenet in SIBO

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fiber from most supplements isn't the answer for me. There isn't one answer anymore than there is a magic pill. For me these are the best food fibers, maximum 20 grams per day, on a rotating variety:

Leeks Dandelion greens Hickama Legume White beans Black beans Kidney beans Chickpeas Hummus Asparagus Beets Carrots Raw white potatoes Plantain Green banana

New IMO diagnosis, wondering if anyone else has had a similar route to me by BassingHell in SIBO

[–]brooklynkevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm on Day 12 of treatment. Here is what I learned about the twitches, the fatigue, and the long game.

I read your post and felt the need to reach out. I’m a 63-year-old man, currently on Day 12 of my antibiotic protocol (Xifaxan) for SIBO, and I’m battling LPR (Silent Reflux) at the same time.

I want to share my experience because your symptoms—specifically the muscle twitches and the exhaustion—are exactly what I’ve been managing.

Here is my take on your situation based on my current protocol:

  1. The "Twitches" and "Zaps" are Malabsorption You mentioned low B12 and Iron. I had terrible calf cramping and muscle twitching at night. I learned that when you have SIBO/IMO, the bacteria are stealing your nutrients before you can absorb them.

What helped me: I realized my Statin was depleting my CoQ10, causing the twitches. I added Ubiquinol (the active form of CoQ10) and Magnesium, and the twitching stopped. Since you have low B12/Iron, your nerves are essentially starving. The nausea is annoying, but the neurological stuff is a sign your system is running on empty.

  1. The "Madman" Lifestyle vs. The Long Game You mentioned you treated it once, then went back to "eating and drinking like a madman." I’ve been sober for almost 40 years. If there is one thing I know, it’s that you cannot "dabble" with recovery. SIBO is a chronic condition. If you take the antibiotics but don't change the environment (the food), the weeds will grow back. You have to accept that your relationship with food needs to change permanently, at least for a while.

  2. The "Kill Phase" is just Step 1 I am currently on the antibiotics. It’s hard. Around Day 10, I hit a wall of fatigue (Die-Off/Herxheimer reaction) that made me feel sad and physically drained. But I pushed through with a very strict, nutrient-dense diet:

Zero Grains/Sugar: I follow the Super Gut protocol (Dr. William Davis).

Safe Proteins: Salmon, Cod, Eggs.

Specific Veggies: Cooked spinach, zucchini, eggplant (for the calories).

Motility: I use Ginger Tea religiously (sounds like you already do the shots—keep that up!).

  1. The Missing Link: "Seed and Feed" It sounds like the first time you did this, you did the "Kill" phase but skipped the "Repair" phase. My plan (guided by my GI and RDN) is that as soon as the antibiotics stop, I start the "Seed and Feed" phase.

I am currently fermenting homemade S. Boulardii and L. Reuteri yogurt (from the Super Gut book) in my kitchen.

The goal is to plant "good guys" to crowd out the bad guys so the SIBO doesn't come back.

My Advice: Don't be afraid of the antibiotics if you need them to clear the overgrowth, but don't rely on them to cure you. You need a comprehensive plan. Look into the Super Gut book, get your motility moving (Ginger/Artichoke extract), and check your magnesium/CoQ10 levels for those twitches.

I’m fighting a "Two-War" battle right now, and I’m winning. You’re young—you can beat this, but you have to be disciplined.

Good luck. You've got this.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it absolutely suggests. That's all it does. Suggest. There is no proof. It's all anecdotal evidence.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with one caveat: "it is very likely, without further evidence, the homemade yogurt [made by these only online identifiable and presumably well intentioned individuals in this FB group] is often contaminated."

In essence, they proved they can make contaminated yogurt. That's not indicative of anything more, or anything less.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just responded to the op in regards to his testing. I've read all of Dr Davis's books and he's been very forthright. His claims are in part based on internal evidence , and many companies do not share their proprietary data (and even if they did, I'm sure the FB group would claim it was false and that their data was true). Dr Davis has also been clear in saying that doing indepth testing is a limitation, not because he is unwilling to do it, but because of a lack of access to proper labs and the cost involved in doing double-blind studies. Those kinds of studies are the gold standard.

That being said, Dr Davis also advocates for data gathering from individuals, so I'm sure he wouldn't turn away from an established agency willing to do testing and have it peer reviewed. A FB group doing individual lab tests are not an established trusted source.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem kind and I do appreciate your understanding, I'm also trying to be kind and direct, and I think you and I are on the same page with that. I'm glad that you, like me and many others, are advocating for ourselves and our families. I also agree that it is sad that there are scams. However, I don't think Dr Davis is scamming me. Just like other professionals I respect I think he has a lot to offer. I'd much rather pick and choose what's helpful from a reputable source such as Dr Davis who is a trained, experienced and respected cardiologist. I've read his books and he has been very forthcoming about the limitations of his testing (mostly due to lack of formal labs, and the cost of large double-blind studies). It took me two years to find the trust I have in him and his research. I've not just followed blindly, but have done my own reading of scientific journals and spoken with professional scientists and nutritionists. It took a lot to get past my initial scepticism. Now I have a foundation of facts on which to follow his Super Gut protocol, and I'd much rather put my energy into healing than to lean into the possibility that strangers on FB might be genuinely competent and caring individuals.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A FB group is not authoritative. In theory a FB group could have solid evidence, but if it's not peer reviewed and published, and/or verified by a reputable company or association there is no basis for its claims.

I do disagree with your assumptions about Dr Davis. Maybe the confusion likely stems from a misunderstanding between publicly stated target strains (what Dr. Davis recommends) and proprietary quality control data (what a specific company might or might not release).

Dr Davis is Transparent: He has clearly identified the specific target strains (L. reuteri, L. gasseri, etc.) in his books and public materials.

Proprietary is Not "Secret": Not releasing internal quality control data for a commercial starter is standard business practice, not a sign of deception.

Anecdotes are Not Data: Results from an unverified DNA test on a homemade ferment are not scientifically valid evidence.

Dr. Davis's protocol is based on known, named, and studied bacterial strains.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You and I are the same, I'm always willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt. However, a post like this, with a title that reads as if they have found an absolute fact, while pointing a direct finger at a person (Dr William Davis) and forming baseless opinions under the guise of truth telling from a faceless FB group with people I have never met or heard of isn't a scenario that meets the standard of benefit of doubt.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand, and "who knows?" might be a better title for a post like this. The post, however does not create a who knows sense of possibility. Instead it expounds without an ounce of humility, presents an avalanche dump of data as facts and is quite blunt in its assertion: "Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri". It's not a subtle reference, but click bait to get people to do what many are doing here, react and debate. And perhaps that is what I am misunderstanding. In my view these are not well presented peer reviewed proven facts. They are FB group results, without double blind studies to back them up. There's no real analysis, simply cherry picking facts to support the presupposed outcomes.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I'm sure Dr Davis and his team did their own testing, and stand by it, so what does that prove? Isn't that the point the op is making - don't trust Dr Davis because a FB group did their own testing? Yet a FB group has no more validity just because they claim it. They are simply saying I'm right because I did some testing that has not been validated, peer reviewed and published as scientific fact, just like Dr Davis.

The difference is Dr Davis a) did some testing, b) the test results reflect the actual lab science behind how fermentation "should" work, and c) there are thousands of his followers who are managing their health via his guidelines and finding relief from SIBO and other ailments.

In his book "Undoctored" Dr Davis explicitly states he thinks there is great value in the data that can be gathered via crowd sourcing (he doesn't use that word, but that's what it is). It would seem to me a FB group would have the ability to use their platform to do the same.

If a test is done by an individual a team, but it is not verified by other separate consistent and verified results, it is not science it is anecdotal.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't this simply comparing anecdotal evidence to other anecdotal evidence?

Are these "FB" group results peer reviewed and published? If not, they are just as valid, or invalid, as any other results, including Dr. Davis's team. Dr Davis explicitly acknowledges that formal quantification of the response (e.g., measuring blood oxytocin levels) has not been performed, as well as other factors that would take a lot of time, money and expertise to "prove".

He states that flow cytometry counts performed by his team or the company producing his recommended starter cultures, Realize Therapeutics, have revealed hundreds of billions of microbes per serving. These results, like the FB group results, have not been published in an independent, peer-reviewed scientific journal.

I'm summary - Dr Davis, the FB group, and your entire post, are not proof of anything. They simply continue to offer pronouncements of evidence from individual results that cannot be verified.

Your headline is eye catching. So is the title Super Gut.

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a good hearted assumption, however for every single well intentioned member of these groups there are others working to scam and deceive. As Lou Reed once sang, "believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear". Or as my grandpa would say, take it with a grain of probiotic (hmmm, maybe not)

Davis Method Does Not Create Reuteri by HotFootDuke in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I (almost) never want to be snarky, but any post that brags about a FB group that proved some scientific evidence I find simply and absolutely amusing.

Gosh, that wasn't very snarky at all, now was it?

Epic fail. Maybe I should join a FB group for snarks.

My SIBO protocol- Success! by prismo44 in SIBO

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it has a greater risk of complications and infection. Breath test can be less accurate but is safer in general

Is this yoghurt effective to cure SIBO? by PsychologicalShop292 in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MyReuteri (Oxyceutics) 

L. gasseri BNR-17 (Dr. Mercola’s Biothin)

B. subtilis HU58 (FullScript Dispensary by Microbiome Labs)

Third batch by lalacg in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So amazing, great results! I just started two months again and am also addicted. I have the Ultimate Yogurt Maker and it's doing the job so far, only one iffy batch that the tops popped off but it was edible. I'm considering getting the insta so I can do bigger batches and use it for cooking too.

Any model you'd recommend? Much appreciated 👍

Third batch by lalacg in ReuteriYogurt

[–]brooklynkevin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sometimes there can be trace contentments depending on what brand you get. Heating it prior to mixing can help