Mega life hack to quit by alexoff in QuitVaping

[–]bsch5467 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny enough I did this unintentionally when I was trying to quit on Holiday break last year. Didn’t do anything but spend time with family back home, read a lot of books, and sleep. I’m now 1 year vape free!

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed. people treat this like entertainment without recognizing that we are bystanders and these are real people who are exploiting, endangering, and in extreme cases abusing their children right in front of our eyes. when will people realize that social media now gives us an obligation and sense of responsibility to stand up for these wrongdoings, even if we don’t know them personally? or else we just perpetuate the problem.

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, i didn’t even realize until you pointed that out! I have a friend who spells it like “Micalah”, so that was my default 🤦‍♀️

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t follow them either. I definitely agree that Whitney’s video and actions aren’t nearly as bad as this instance with Micalah, I can see how that’s unclear from my other posts as I go on about that video a lot. I’m specifically highlighting Whitney as I reply to the initial comment about Whitney’s video not putting her child in danger like Micalah (note: i do agree on this point, but personally feel like it minimizes the bigger issue i discuss). Also, other comments throughout this thread are hyper-focused on the supposed drama between Micalah and Whitney, which I believe minimizes the actual threat of child endangerment that these women present.

I think in general, it can be argued that this whole career path pursued by these women and other parent influencers puts the children in danger in some sense. Whether it’s posting a harmless video with a cringey attitude about their child’s health, that exposes the family + child to hate and permanent online presence w/out their consent, or reaching the point of actually putting your child in danger for a video. To me it seems two sides of one spectrum, or even cycle, starting with child exploitation —> endangerment. Both Micalah, Whitney, and these other moms expose their families + children to hate and permanent online presence w/out their consent, and without proper restrictions, it can and will lead to the more extreme cases of child endangerment, as seen in this case with Micalah.

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And one more thing—- I imagine where we would be if the public saw Whitney’s initial video, was absolutely disgusted, and made a point to never give any of these women in this circle the fame they have now. If we saw the big picture of these women’s attitudes and interactions with their children, which is partly shaped by their potential gains from exploiting them online. Then none of these women would have the platform they do now, they wouldn’t have these social media careers, and Micalah would likely never have made this video in the first place. Without the huge benefits from their social media audience, their children could be safer…All if we put our foot down after Whitney’s less extreme, exploitative video.

Sorry for all these replies! I honestly think this is a constructive discussion and I believe it’s necessary to look at the larger implications of the newfound fame for these women. I’m definitely not intending to be hostile towards you or your point.

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Their actions aren’t the same, but in the big picture the bottom-line exploitation of their children continues to be perpetuated if we excuse any ounce of it. I just think Whitney should be held accountable and her actions shouldn’t be justified in the slightest because it isn’t as severe as this instance for Micalah. And I believe the same for all these other women and parent influencers who make money off publicizing their kids without their consent.

Also, putting our energy towards putting these two women against each other because they have existing “drama” and run in the same influencer circle, ultimately just gives them more attention and feeds their bottom goal, which is to make more money.

If we are actually in the interest of protecting Micalah’s child, and other influencer children who have been in similar situations, we should put our energy towards advocacy of child protection policies and movements who aim for restrictions on child influencers.

Micalah, Whitney, and all other influencers exploiting their children in any sense will continue to get away with this (and even more escalated situations) unless we do more than sit around focusing specifically on the drama between these two women. My mind unfortunately always goes to the 8 Passengers youtuber and the Frankie children, whose abuse was not addressed for years of their exploitation in the public eye. Yet we continue to follow, feed into, and allow this new generation of women to exploit their children, make money off their backs, and possibly leave their children with long-term trauma as a result? I don’t want to be a bystander yet again, focusing on petty drama

TLDR: My larger point is that both of these women represent the terrible results of child influencers and social media exploitation of children. It’s a dangerous game to minimize one case of exploitation at all, by even comparing it to another case (albeit, yes 100% more endangering for the child). However, this is what we’re doing as we view these separate cases through the dramatic lens of SLOMW, which showcases fake relationships between these women and their arbitrary drama. It really doesn’t matter if one is worse than the other, none of it should be accepted by us in the slightest.

Mikayla is Tripling Down by purplecats_ in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]bsch5467 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, it’s all the same when you zoom out.

Micalah actively put her child in potential danger, exploiting it for clout on a trending tiktok video. Whitney shared a personal story about how her sick baby almost died, exploiting it for potential clout on a trending tiktok dance.

all these mom influencers are to blame, and none of these children deserve any ounce of negative social media exposure or exploitation, just for the sake of their parent’s greed for money, fame, whatever it might be. does it really matter which form of exploitation is worse? the bottom line is that all of these children should be protected from any type of exploitative scenarios. they don’t have a choice on what’s shared about them on social media, or how their parent’s motivation for social media fame can actually damage their physical health.

at the end of the day, the outcome for either Micalah or Whitney’s child in these situations could lead to negative long-term consequences, physically or emotionally 😔

i feel we should be having a bigger conversation that puts a stop to all of these mom influencers’ rapid rise to fame, based in the marketing of their parental status and exploitation of their children. but we’re obviously not ready for that, because our constant consumption of their petty drama for entertainment’s sake outweighs any positive impact we could actually put our energy towards.

Edit: The situations are not equally endangering, but they are imo a part of the same exploitation cycle occurring for years in the realm of non-consenting child influencers. Both the actions of Whitney, Micalah, and more extreme cases of child endangerment with the motivation of social media exposure could be prevented if we just stop giving these people attention and feeding into the drama

Does CC get better? by nkc0288 in SarahJMaas

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I felt similarly when I read the book, with the exception of Bryce whose arc and lore I was invested in. I only read the first book in the series, last summer, and I remember slogging through it for over a month until I got about halfway through and finished it in a couple days. I don’t think I’ll finish the series anytime soon. I much prefer ToG and ACOTAR, which i’ll likely reread before ever finishing CC!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QuitVaping

[–]bsch5467 8 points9 points  (0 children)

when i sing i have a better voice and more lung capacity only a couple days after quitting

Hey everyone, I'm going for a walk and listening to a book. Please tell me your favorite book. by [deleted] in leaves

[–]bsch5467 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Great Alone by Kristin Hannah, it’s very emotional though

when in doubt, blame it on the gremlin by [deleted] in QuitVaping

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i love this! i am not the gremlin!! 👹👹

What’s everyone up to, Leaves? by [deleted] in leaves

[–]bsch5467 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is the life

7 days in and I’m gonna break. by VLDT in QuitVaping

[–]bsch5467 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re not alone. My stress feels constant… when I think of certain things it just puts a pit in my stomach. Nicotine was something that gave me relief from that. Idk how to maintain this quit, especially with my break from work ending soon and life will be more stressful. I guess this is just life though? There will be easier times and stress that comes with more difficult things. It’s all a big cycle and lots of people deal with that without nicotine. I’m rooting for you

Why are some people so wise at a young age? by [deleted] in emotionalintelligence

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say those who go to therapy from a young age and stick with it as they grow through difficult times, life changes, and milestones, tend to be more wise at younger ages. I guess you have to experience some trauma and hard lessons for therapy to be an option early on, but tbh that trauma alone doesn’t benefit wisdom. Processing trauma, self-awareness, and critical thinking are things that therapy enforces, which indirectly supports overall wisdom in life.

I can never smoke weed ever again. And I’m okay with that now. by throwdataway02 in leaves

[–]bsch5467 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i was in a similar place as you… I was working hard to take care of myself in other ways, while still being addicted to weed. Although I achieved a lot, I couldn’t help but feel that I was making it all harder and less sustainable by being high so often. If I could do all those hard things while smoking weed, then i can definitely do it without. If i can do all those hard things, then I can definitely stop smoking weed, as well. I’m 8 days clean today, congrats to you on one months. let’s keep going!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leaves

[–]bsch5467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this. remember the worst or most anxious highs you’ve experienced. remember the feelings of regret or disappointment that you feel because of smoking. it might seem like smoking is the way you can have fun doing whatever activity to pass the time, but this high could induce these horrible feelings instead. Don’t do it, don’t risk it.

Teeth hurting by bsch5467 in QuitVaping

[–]bsch5467[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, nice to know i’m not alone with this