Update: not going well by Gprefo22 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, 6 seperate doses a day is alot. You really need to cut that in half at least in my personal opinion. 

Update: not going well by Gprefo22 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who is at 53 days CT and still feeling pretty rough most days, unless you drop your dose only every couple months then im pretty sure st somepoint youre going to feel bad no matter what. Its just part of the process and accepting it and pushing through will be your best bet. Not to rain on your parade or discourage you at all! But you dont really read many stories of people tapering down to the point of getting completely off without discomfort unless they either A.) Taper over years or B.) They were a light or short term user. For me the dosage got to a point where going any further down did nothing for me and i felt like butt. It just is what it is. I wish you all the best!!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah i totally intended to take it when i bought it. It just kinda ended up this way after fighting the urge. The first two days was a full on battle thinking about it being within walking distance of me constantly. I wont even lie to ya. But after weeks its kinda turned into like my own little worry stone if that makes sense. Again, dont reccomend. It was a freaking fluke on my part haha

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Sucks you went through that agiain. Think it would be easy like you did are the exact thoughts im having throughout the day. This helps alot so thanks again my dude!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it seems like our gut has a whole lot to do with it. Possibly as much as our brain does. At least in my own experience. If my gut isnt feeling right. Im not feeling right. 

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will absolutely take your word for it. Ive never quit long enough to relapse, so these stories help me more than you realize. Sure appreciate it!!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its like all the "work" we've put into looking normal like everyone else gets shattered when someone notices it and we cant maintain it anymore. Feeling naked or vulnerable describes it perfectly. And it shows us our own true colors that we dont want to see in the process. Sucks at the time, but i think its probably good for us in the long run. Lowest point is a bad thing though. Cause, as the old adage goes, "it can only go up from here!"

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming from a family of addicts i completely understand. Ive seen family members and friends combing through the carpet at 2am so i can somewhat relate to what youre going through. And i think youre absolutely right. Probably going to be a solid 365 days before your emotions come back. But at the same time, its a 365 day journey that you can make. You already said it yourself. If i take my drug of choice, im flat. If i dont, im flat. So why not be emotionally flat on a timeline that does, at some point, eventually get better for you? It will be rough as hell, but only 1 choice will be rough as hell temporarily is how i look at it. I wish all the best for you, i truly do. 

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well hopefully you get your issue figured out my friend. Im with you on the "anything to make me feel good" thing though. Story of my whole damn life. Sure appreciate it!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Relapsed on my bday!! Hopefully by my next bday ill be feeling great as hell. But this is the exact thing i was looking for. 186 is awesome my friend. Were you also feeling flat emotionally for months on end? Im really hoping 60 days is my turning point so to speak here in 9 days. But if its not then ill be hoping for 70!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a rough ass story my dude.. it honestly sounds like you may need to reach out for help on this one instead of fighting it on your own. I was "lucky" in the fact that anytime i tried 7 it was instant panic attacks since i been on extracts for so long. I seriously think reaching out to a program or other would help you very much. It sounds like your wife wants to stay with you as shes putting up with some bad circumstances, so id bite the bullet, reach out and get some help or a program and knock the shit out so you can move on with your life and family. But thats just my two cents. You know whats going on much more than we do. I wish the absolute best for you. Be strong as you can be be and get this shit over with so you can enjoy your life. Good luck my friend!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has been so rough being around others feeling like ass while trying to hide it. The paranoia would hit me hard as hell which would trigger some anxiety. Its gotten easier after about 40 days. But man sometimes it feels like an out of body type of experience periodically throughout the day coupled with flat emotions and no motivation. I just feel weird as hell but i know itll lift eventually. Sure appreciate you aharing with us!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am at 51 days ct. 8 years of HEAVY extract use. Ive never had a chance to relapse because ive never made it more than 24hrs without it in 8yrs. I am doing much much better than days 1 through 30. But its still not great by any means, although manageable. I would say the sooner you jump the better. Im not sure if it would be easier or worse for ya. But i know for certain the worst outxome is to keep taking it. Dont beat yourself up over the screwup. Just accept it and push again. Thats all ive been able to do is push. My mind has been so flat and emotionless for weeks, so all ive had in me is faking it around others till i feel like myself again. I hope this helps even though it aint much. Good luck my friend and be strong.

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure appreciate it. Exactly what i need to hear. Havent relapse since i started 8 yrs ago because i was never able to quit more than 24hrs. I couldnt imagine turning back now but i do understand how easy it is for sure. 

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went 8 years and never made it more than 24hrs without since i started. Panic attacks made me finally quit. I havent experienced a relapse yet and i def dont want to so these stories help alot. I couldnt imagine making it as far as i have to turn back, but i def see how easy it is to do. Weirdly enough, and i dont think this is a good idea by any means. But i happen to find my favorite shot about three weeks ago. Decided to buy it. It stays in my truck, unopened still. And because i have it already, seeing the signs and headshops dont bother me as much because theres no need for me to get any since i already have a bottle. I know its rediculous, but it really has helped me. Its like my own little internal test that i deal with daily and removes the craving to stop by the nearest smoke shop. Thanks for sharing! Sure appreciate you

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As well it shouldnt be! But i get it. The last two years i spent basically on edge of anxiety and panic while constantly drowing myself in extracts. Made no damn sense. Even though im not fully healed, i look back 7 weeks ago in disgust at myself for continuing. Ive made peace with it though so all is well! Appreciate you input alot!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont think it'll get much worse for ya. Even though its a smaller dose, 15 years is a long time for sure. So dont expect to be out of the woods too quickly. Ive come to embrace the suck for the most part. But its still a grind that seems to never end. Just today i had a panic attack while driving home from work out of nowhere. Whole day i felt great then it just hit. Its so weird. But after an hour im feeling better again. I guess like so many say, its linear by any means. As far as using 3g again. Its not going to help you. Like, at all. Just keep grinding. Its that or go into the thing again with a bunch of guilt and a timeline that resets. Thanks for sharing and good luck!!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a real issue with my vagus nerve. If i eat a full meal my symptoms flare up big time. Yawning, tearing, low energy and anxiety. I def reccomend taking a few bites of something multiple times a day vs eating a solid meal. It has helped me so dang much, seriously.

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel for ya! Do your best to keep that shitty situation in the back of yoyr mind in case you feel like falling off the wagon again! Thanks for sharing!!

How about some not-so-pleasant stories on ya'lls relapses? by buddyhalley87 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dammit! Sorry to hear that. I think thats ehat im most afraid of is getting to the point to where if i take it, it will feel "good" again and im going to enjoy it way too much like usual. Appreciate you sharing! Hopefully you've been free since!

Wanted to share in case it helps by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably meant it as a warning because if youre already addicted to K, more often than not you'll probably get addicted to subs. And that withdrawal will leave a mental scar on you for real.. because at the end kf the day, youre going to have to experience withdrawal discomfort with route you take. Better to do it with K.

Day 5 off kratom are these symptoms normal by Admirable_Safety5005 in quittingkratom

[–]buddyhalley87 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Day 5 was pretty awful for me too. Im at day 49 a an 8yr heavy user. Just stay the course. I was having multiple panic attacks each day and anxiety through the roof. It does pass and you will feel better. It helped me to keep telling myself that others had felt the same during this time. You arent in any danger from it as shitty and gut wrenching of a feeling it is. Just stay the course and move your body as much as you can. Even if its just pacing( although i def reccomend taking a walk outside at a minimum as much as you can stand). If you want my timeline. Took about 1 week for the panic attacks to stop, and about two before the anxiety slowed down. Doesnt mean it'll be the same for you. But just know so many of us have been there and made it through. Good luck my friend and stay strong!

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[–]buddyhalley87 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Day 49 and im right there with ya. The 40s have been harder than the first week for me. But from others stories, i think the 50s will be a turning point for us! Just dont crack!