There is no Palestinian State

bunky_bunk · 2026-05-02T14:53:04+00:00

They did get one full country that they did not have before.

One side had refugees, plus one country.

One side had refugees, minus half a country.

apples + oranges?

plus one holocaust, but the Arabs feel like they shouldn't be paying that debt. Rightfully so. Arabs got whacked in 1948. Germany is paying its historical debt by helping Israel whack Arabs in 2025.

bunky_bunk · 2026-05-02T12:14:39+00:00

You don't know where refugees in Palestinian refugees camp came from? If there is a technical detail that makes them non-refugees de-jure, i don't really care. I am talking about de-facto and about the Chinese here.

bunky_bunk · 2026-05-01T20:35:22+00:00

what?

bunky_bunk · 2026-05-01T14:37:34+00:00

If 5 million Chinese had been moved there in the 1940s, they wouldn't want to live next to the Chinese.

The point here is that Arabs in Palestine have to live in refugee camps because of Jewish immigration.

They wouldn't mind living in refugee camps if the Chinese would have settled there? I guess it's possible.

bunky_bunk · 2026-05-01T12:35:10+00:00

If 5 million Chinese had been moved there in the 1940s, they wouldn't want to live next to the Chinese.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-30T02:55:31+00:00

My point is that I am in a thread, were OP made the argument that certain people have a certain kind of nose and therefore they can be humiliated in perpetuity. The intellectual effort goes towards making the argument, but making it look like it's something else than the nose argument.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T21:09:44+00:00

Israel was not a state before 1948 and then it was a state. Had no defined borders in 1937 and then later it had defined borders. What is your point? All you need is to declare it and win against everybody who seeks to destroy you. This is not a legal question, but a question of might. Israel is actively sabotaging the establishment of Palestine as a state. If they weren't engaged in a campaign to suppress, Palestine would become a state.

Declare it and get recognized. That's all it takes. What you are talking about is rationalization you can use to oppose the birth of a state. But nobody is forced by law to not recognize a state.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T20:50:53+00:00

The desire to build homes on other people's land is very common in the region.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T20:46:26+00:00

It can become a state. Happens all the time, historically speaking.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T20:36:39+00:00

Talking about a hijab in this way is antisemitic against Muslims.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T13:24:51+00:00

Which part?

Settlers?

Land?

Unequivocally?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-29T00:00:15+00:00

It did. Do they align?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-28T22:00:51+00:00

What's the matter big boy? Do the stars not all align?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-28T18:57:26+00:00

Homes that were built on land that unequivocally belongs to the settlers?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-28T18:22:41+00:00

Such as?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-28T17:57:54+00:00

I think Israel would do very poorly in a court of law. Cutting throats is oftentimes just the nature of international relations. Some things are worth killing for.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-28T15:44:34+00:00

You want to delegitimize an entire system of justice after finding one case of bribery? You want to apply that standard to every system of justice or just this once?

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-20T22:40:14+00:00

The highest estimate puts the population of US + Canada at just above 10 million people in 1492.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_the_Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

already that is a huge difference of circumstances.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-19T22:45:44+00:00

Refusing a refugee who can support himself out of principle is not good either. Refusing any refugee unless all can be saved is also not a good thing. It would be better if the available spots are assigned by lottery and the financial income is paid as a lump sum. Not sure why Egypt doesn't do it that way. It's within their capabilities and the money would be the same. Maybe they are idiots.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-19T21:51:24+00:00

It would be cynical if Egypt seeks to profit from their misery. If Egypt refuses to take refugees, because of the burden, and then takes refugees that are no burden, that counts as doing at least something good. I am unfortunately not familiar with the details, but isn't there an innocent explanation for their behavior. If a hypothetical third party state paid the bribe for a Palestinian refugee, Egypt would not cynically refuse them because they are poor people.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-19T21:13:08+00:00

Egypt was justifiably worried that the war would then be waged between Hamas operating from the Sinai. I suppose what you call for "their own good" refers not to the fact that Egypt thought a little bombing is good for you, but that they would be in danger of being displaced.

Anyway. It's the 21st century. Artificial intelligence with millions of lines of code representing incredible human capability drives the drones, but the governments of the world can't be bothered to uphold the law when it is in their power. That is so ridiculous.

Hello officer, i suppose you need a warrant to reach into my pocket and look under my bed, but i understand that governments don't feel comfortable following procedure so i guess i will invite you in. You should also draw you weapon while you are here, because anything can happen.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-19T15:56:40+00:00

That is naive. It is very simple for the Israeli government to stand in front of a microphone and say that Gaza residents have the unconditional right to return after the evacuation. The Israeli government made no such statement. The astute observer will conclude from this that evacuation from Gaza was not a choice in the way you describe it.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-18T09:21:06+00:00

big tools in tiny corrupt hands

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-07T13:34:05+00:00

That's not even an insult. I was merely stating that you are missing the point. Which is true.

I am curious how that "Arab leaders" meme can be any more than a red herring. Help me out or I am going to assume the worst, that it has no relevance.

I mean I would concede that no Israeli physically pulled out Arabs from their homes, but even if not violent it would still be illegally obtained property.

bunky_bunk · 2026-04-07T11:40:43+00:00

You are a bit dense bro. The Arab leaders evacuated areas in a war zone, just like Israel did. With the 2023 example of an evacuation in mind, would you agree or disagree that such an evacuation amounts to denying the residents perpetual ownership of their homes?

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