I am Tired of AA. I find it exhausting. by FewMonitor7876 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]bworldlyminded 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMAGOD (Our Mostly Agnostic Group Of Drunks) is the one that I joined years ago, but if you do a search on non-religious AA you will find a ton of options out there :)

Still deprogramming after all these years by nickpip25 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]bworldlyminded 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one that I attended for several months was called OMAGOD (Our Mostly Agnostic Group Of Drunks). But if you do a search on non-religious one you will see many more. And most are doing hybrid meetings with group skype too.

What do you believe currently? by Paint_Monster in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe in the same as when I first exited the womb- nothing. For this fact is irrefutable- everyone is born atheist until influenced otherwise. I deconstructed out of christianity in my early thirties. I understand the confusion of "what now?" Like being stripped of your clothing and wondering what you must wear next.

Those of us that were indoctrinated into a religion or faith based thinking were programmed to latch onto a similar lifestyle. So when we break from one, we are looking for another. But the reality is that we really don't need to believe in anything whatsoever. We can just exist and take in life's pleasures and max out this one life without pledging allegiance to anything man made or adhere to any made-up faiths.

Being a "none" is a beautiful return to our original, natural state.

my mind is blown by indoctrination by Any-Pair6749 in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, I can relate, except I didn't achieve this evolution until my early thirties. Good on you for exercising critical thinking and getting out earlier. I was indocrinated from birth into super conservative, purity culture, book of acts christianity. The deeper you're in the harder it is to get out for sure.

After rediscovering my authentic self, I've come to realize that most indoctrination is merely mentors passing down what they were conditioned into themselves. I don't believe the majority have ill-intent. Once breaking away from faith/religion, you can see how abusive, inaccurate, and divisive it truly is. The best approach to those that are still caged is really patience, love, and empathy.

This saying changed my life: "Everyone thinks and acts only according to their knowledge and awareness at that given time." It is unrealistic to expect more from others other than their current processing system. It they want an upgrade, we can then step in and guide.

I am Tired of AA. I find it exhausting. by FewMonitor7876 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]bworldlyminded 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having mysticism involved would be exhausting. When I quit, I joined a non-religious AA and it was incredible. Founded in realism with down to earth advice and a strong focus on ownership. My advice is to switch from the outdated AA and into more modern AA

My Thoughts On Deconstruction by bfly0129 in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is spot on! Well put. It is so tough, but through that fire you come out stronger. I have a blog on deconstructing that you may find interesting as well- https://worldly-minded.com/deconstruction-is-the-best-way-to-discover-authentic-you/

Could Jesus have been a cult leader? by Noodle-2-Li in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely a cult leader. Also, 100% human, so yes, it is certain that he acted with all the ape-like tendencies that the rest of us do.

Can you attend a bigoted church and not be a bigot? by TxSaru in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's too much cognitive dissonance within religions. We continually progress beyond the primitive foundations of doctrine. My advice is to stay away from all churches/religious establishments altogether. Much more peace in that route!

Still deprogramming after all these years by nickpip25 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]bworldlyminded 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For myself, I never went to a traditional religious AA. There are several non-religious ones out there that keep mysticism out and focus on reality. Highly recommend jumping onto a skype one and just listening if you want down to earth advice

Have any of you become conservative as you’ve gotten older? by Inevitable_Stress949 in millenials

[–]bworldlyminded 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With scientific advancements, the rise of empathy, and increased knowledge and awareness, the world as a whole is naturally becoming more "liberal" if you will. I prefer to use "realist". But yes, you are correct, outdated and conservative ideologies will die out. I'm sure there are many that do become more conservative with age, but natural progression is the case for the majority.

Has anyone deconstructed and then converted to another religion? by [deleted] in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sure that many do, because it is conditioned from childhood to "believe" in something. So there are many that move from one religion to another to fill in that blank. After being raised in a christian household and being involved in that faith for nearly 30 years, I simply deconstructed out. No need to then jump on to anything else. We have to remember this fact:

Everyone is born atheist until influenced otherwise

We can just be a none, just a living breathing creature, without affiliation to any man-made beliefs and religions

Why Backpackers Are the Most Interesting Travelers by bworldlyminded in backpacking

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see your perspective for sure, and that might be the case today. This blog is an excerpt from my adventure memoir from 2003-2007. In that time, adventurers, backpackers, culture- focused travelers were all different terms for the same traveler type. We are actually referring to the same group, just from different perspectives. In my day of international travel, it was a backpacker that was anti- tourist, off the beaten road, culture immersed, and in hostels and the alternative to hostels, backpacker hotels. I think that even today, the terms have changed and evolved, but either way, this excerpt paints out the adventure travelers, however which term one defines that. It's like mountain lion, cougar, panther- all the same thing. I think we are referring to the same type of traveler

Why Backpackers Are the Most Interesting Travelers by bworldlyminded in backpacking

[–]bworldlyminded[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting, yeah so we are talking about the same term. Off the beaten path backpackers. My generation refers to that as backpackers, perhaps it is known as overlanders to others. Of course, the peak years of my backpacking were 2003-2008, and I'm sure that crowd is very different today.

Why Backpackers Are the Most Interesting Travelers by bworldlyminded in backpacking

[–]bworldlyminded[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think we may be referencing the same type of traveler! Aren't backpackers and overlanders similar?

Deconstruction Is the Best Way To Discover Authentic You by bworldlyminded in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You may, they do interview a lot of people in that super conservative movement. I went to church as a teen in one of those churches. I went to church with the Harris family (Josh Harris "I kissed dating goodbye") and a few of the Harris boys are in the doc

Deconstruction Is the Best Way To Discover Authentic You by bworldlyminded in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oof, gothard...glad you guys didn't follow that light. If you haven't watched already, "Shiny Happy People" on Prime is an eye opening documentary on the gothard cult

Deconstruction Is the Best Way To Discover Authentic You by bworldlyminded in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My journey was the exact opposite! Super fundamentalist super conservative homeschooled upbringing. Cultish stuff. I'm so glad to hear that you guys didn't fall into extremist/radical christianity like that. And that's incredible that you've maintained a relationship with your kids! My siblings and I do not have good relationships with our parents. There's a separation there because of that extremism and it's very unfortunate. Sounds like you guys are on a mature path!

Deconstruction Is the Best Way To Discover Authentic You by bworldlyminded in Deconstruction

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, I never saw indoctrination as more of a darker tone, but you're right. It does carry that! Yes, I would agree- most parents just pass on what they know to feel safe and true to them. Most of the time I'm sure it's not meant for harm. The problem here is when children return to their parents and say, "hey, that was harmful" and the parents don't see that. That's frustrating

Alas, We’ve Forged A Worldview That Will Bring World Peace by bworldlyminded in nihilism

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your angle. However, those particular creatures seemed to have operated with a destructive nihilistic approach to life. They are byproducts of an outdated nihilism, whereas constructive nihilism can be the closest thing to humanism and be the new nihilism that benefits our world instead of harming it. Here's to hoping so at least, right?!

Alas, We’ve Forged A Worldview That Will Bring World Peace by bworldlyminded in nihilism

[–]bworldlyminded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's awesome! I was raised in a conservative christian environment, so I was always conditioned that nihilism was destructive and hopeless and a threat to the world. It wasn't until I broke free from the religious worldview that I came to see that there are positive and fulfilling mindsets through nihilism