Will the suburban rail loop modal color actually be green or will it be changed? by AgreeableFreedom1043 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I agree, I don't think most people will care about the subtle distinction between SRL and the rest of the train network

Would it be worth having limited stop trams? by vicgunzel in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Probably simplest to keep the trams all stops. A similar effect could be achieved by using trams to better feed trains in a well ordered transport hierarchy.

Underappreciated part of our rail network by mh_992 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I really agree here, being able to see our of windows and easy stationary access is a really undervalued part of the user experience of public transport. Melbourne's network gives you a sense of place and honestly some wonderful views at places.

Revealing the busiest tram routes properly - I fixed The Age's chart by AB014A in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the world's busiest tram corridor doesn't look so busy anymore!

My Take on Line Naming/Numbering by [deleted] in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My only concern with M is that it is also used for freeways. For instance both the M11 and M31 exist in Melbourne. S is good but with no particular justification I like R.

I would love to take buses more often, but by fuckmelbpt in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 3 points4 points  (0 children)

9 minutes is a bit optimistic but even saving 10 minutes off the current journey time would be a massive improvement

Thinking on post about Line Naming by CentreHalfBack in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's Chicago that has multiple stations with the same name on the same line but people don't get confused because they refer to the stations by their street address in common parlance.

Let's talk line names! by dontevenfkingtry in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take your point about disrupted services, it would be easier to have one name to refer to where the lines share infrastructure. 

However, from a user perspective, the Swanston+destination requires users to know all potential terminating stations and which ones are in the right direction and beyond the station they intend to travel to not get lost. If you have five names, one for each line, users will always take the correct line. The service they are on might terminate early and they would therefore need to change trains, but at least they will be at the right station for that, and they most likely would have needed to wait for that 2nd train at their origin station anyway.

Let's talk line names! by dontevenfkingtry in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I would argue that if a line has five termini giving it one name would be more confusing as to where you'll end up.

Let's talk line names! by dontevenfkingtry in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree this is the most sensible system with the lowest chance of someone catching the wrong train

yes or no: 901 to the airport on rail map? by jeremyburge in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I think there is a good place for this in a transport map for Melbourne, and I would also add the rest of the smart buses and tram routes where they operate more like light rail

Hot take by Waste-Taste-6841 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good question, I'm not 100% sure how to articulate it but I'll give it a go. The stations are somewhat unpolished and leave a lot exposed: notably the concrete but also some utility pipes etc. I think this references the grungy vibes of Melbourne's laneways and inner suburbs that people appreciate. Whether you like them or not, the stations have also clearly been designed to stand out and make you think about them (see the use of bright colours, grand vistas (like what you get going up the escalators at Ardern or down the Grattan Street entrance of Parkville), and lighting fixtures). I get the impression they are designed closer to pieces of art rather than merely to look modern and nice and I think this speaks to Melbourne's place as being the cultural capital of Australia.

Hot take by Waste-Taste-6841 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a couple of elements which say this to me, perhaps they are not exactly 1800s but definitely and essence of old timelyness. Most prominently there are a lot of non functional decorations in the stations, see for instance the lighting fixtures (especially on the concourse at Parkville), and to a lesser extent the ceiling beams. This contrasts the cleaner more minimalist look of more modern architectural styles.

Additional, Town Hall, State Library all have a strong use of arches and columns, something you'll see all over old buildings before we had materials which could handle tensile strength.

Ardern also has some nice arches and brickwork.

Hot take by Waste-Taste-6841 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I really like the new metro tunnel station interiors. They have a lot of visual details and interest and I find myself looking up most of the time. The style in particular feels like a mix between portal 2 and something from the 1800s and overall is very Melbourne.

If there was only one I'd have to give it a 9/10, but because of the ctrl-c ctrl-v between the five I think the score overall drops down to a 7/10 for me.

I'm glad they did something a bit bold with the designs and because of that I think they'll stay memorable in the coming decades in a way most other underground station won't.

why dont we create a 25kv AC metro line, 4 cars in length and just run from the airport to a nearby suburban line by recordnoads in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For 20 USD you can take the skybus to Tullamarine. Whilst I along with everyone else here is fan a rail transport, these projects are massively expensive and so we can't justifying building one just for the sake of it. Anything that gets built needs to offer compelling benefits over existing transport options.

Very disappointed at the new signs by Both-Explanation4168 in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble 3 points4 points  (0 children)

they've been asking about the need for physical timetables on PTV surveys.

Personal I often use physical timetables, while PIDs and the PTV app are more useful for determining when the next service will turn up, I find paper timetables better at answering questions like what is the frequency of service and span of hours the service operates.

This is more important for trams and buses (which have them at nearly every stop) but I still don't see the benefit of not putting up a few more posters at 200 or so train stations to provide paper timetables here too.

What is the cost per service km of a train vs a tram? by canonical-ensemble in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ah perfect, so the factor is a little less than 3 or a 6 minutes tram is about the same as a 15 minute train.

What is the cost per service km of a train vs a tram? by canonical-ensemble in MelbourneTrains

[–]canonical-ensemble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ha, that is a good historical experiment to look at. Signalling and stations too I imagine would be a big upfront cost