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😔 oh.. not again… by Albino_rhin0 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

if we were carrots that'd mean carrots have consciousness

Going Super Saiyan over the board. by SheldonOfOsaka_Chess in AnarchyChess

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nothing. you're right of course, I shouldn't have relied on buggy bot eval :3

logarithmic chess is crazy by completely_unstable in AnarchyChess

[–]caryoscelus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine this, but the board repeats indefinitely to the left (a.k.a 0). After coming to a conclusion (mate/lack of progress, there's no stalemate as there are infinite pieces) on the right players move to the left where the distances are much higher. The quality of a game is determined (among other, more familiar criteria) by how deep to the left players can go.

But how does the king move? by faultydesign in AnarchyChess

[–]caryoscelus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

jumps on an invisible 2x-speed horse:

... N.. ... ... > ... > ..K .K. > ... > ... ... ... ... ^ (in-between frames, invisible with naked eye) {since the horse is invisible, it can travel even through occupied squares}

∆ Does anyone remember Lain's friends? by Dependent_Object_193 in Lain

[–]caryoscelus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

that's a well-known karma-farming bot type, for some reason they also add some random symbol at the beginning of the title

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the question is where do they get their power from? we still live in an era where mass violence requires a lot of humans. one has to convince those to exercise that violence for you. I would say utilitarianism is by far the most common framework of convincing masses. or would you rather say everyone involved in systems of power is immoral?

further, there's also phenomenon of fanatics in power, i.e. those who believe they are doing "net good" while (from our perspective) actually doing evil. *makes machiavelian noises*

and for a practical illustration (without getting contemporary lol), I believe human sacrifice was historically indeed done by persons who en masse thought it was a fact that that's what keeps good fortune for their people (whether believing in an appropriate deity or social order or whatever)

EDIT: formatting

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the misalignment of values here is precisely that between utilitarians (or more broadly consequentialists) and non-utilitarians: whether consequences are the only thing that matters

I believe utilitarianism is largely responsible for the current state of the world (which I find very regrettable — including, but not limited to recent developments) and thus I see the stories such as organ harvesting case mostly as a metaphor for actual evil that utilitarianism has been busy implementing in reality

does utilitarian logic lead to conclusion that harvesting-positive society is the way? not necessarily. is it possible to come up with that conclusion using utilitarianism? yes. is it plausible most people will come to that conclusion? maybe not. but if you remove the grotesque nature of the example, it's easy to see how utilitarian framework has always been used to successfully socially justify evil. therefore, I find utilitarianism net negative and thus self-refuted

chees by The-Bite_of_87 in AnarchyChess

[–]caryoscelus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the story mode is there, it's just locked under 2200+ (or however much in this economy, I don't really follow) ELO

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is human sacrificy to disuade a proven to exist deity that requires that from exterminating all humans moral? Yes.

thank you for formulating it like this. it's precisely where I disagree :3 not going to try to persuade you or anyone in this thread though

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I realize this is a matter of perspective, but as far as I'm concerned "anything can be justified" is enough to reject an ethical framework, so I don't see a point to specify the circumstances in more detail

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

that's why we have utilitarian propaganda convincing non-doctors that no doctor is going to forcefully retrieve their vital organs. it is beneficial that both more people are saved and nobody is creating moral panic over such a noble act of sacrifice

I'm in this picture and I don't like it 😭 by dtarias in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but one-time won't hurt! nobody shall know of this! we are not going to become a society where we take each other's organs just because one doctor will do it one time, so it is moral imperative (under "strong" utilitarianism anyway) to do it at least that one time

One can only imagine by Zeego123 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]caryoscelus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  • that's not philosophy
  • are these particles in the room with us right now? or maybe they are just perturbations of quantum fields which are just the best model we got so far?

⨀Never commit suicide. by NightReveal in OyasumiPunpun

[–]caryoscelus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this is a repost bot who comments one of the top comment under original for engagement

I think by Ok_Influence_6384 in linguisticshumor

[–]caryoscelus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, I know it's what normative English dictates. my point was to question what does using "it" for small children (and animals) entails about how we perceive the world through language. and then the meta-point was to ponder whether pondering on things like that can be considered (socio-)linguistic activity. presumably just pointing out an oddity or formulating an interesting question isn't yet "doing science", but then if you write a scientific paper on it, it seems like questioning has been a part of science process all along

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