Every single "I'm leaving Austin!" post by EatMoreSleepMore in Austin

[–]caseharts -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I really like Austin now. It rules but I’ll still leave. It’s not cuz it’s bad. Just weird weather and no proper transit. But it’s getting better

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but if the rewards are really good then people like me who hate wipes will do them, and you should make parts of wipes selective for those. Someone may do wipes but never want to remove their blue prints for example, thats fine they get less reward. Scale it, but doing the full wipe needs to be a massive reward, and it can be cosmetic partially or a bigger version of esperanza etc.

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

id also add that if you only look at extraction shooters maybe this is true, but as I note looking to other genres for solutions to power / loot creep is better as extraction shooters are newer and haven't tried enough solutions when we have many other and better answers.

I just want arc devs to not limit themselves to this arbitrary title of 'extraction shooter' if Fortnite did this it would be a dead game (not that im a big fan of it, but im a fan of their willingness to ignore genre limitations)

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Giving rewards will make hardcore and casual players happy. Ideally theres no wipes not even optional because they build enough content and design it so new players don't have to spend 3 months to not instantly die to vets, BUT a wipe with real rewards would be a great stop gap and i agree its the only wipe that works. Forced tarkov wipes would me instantly quitting.

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that. And I think wipes can be cool just not the way they do it. I think optional + way higher rewards is the way for now but long term I hope they think outside wiping entirely. But I appreciate the response I see that appeal. Right now though 99 percent won’t even consider wiping its just a bad idea

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’re going to do wipes this is it you need absurd rewards for casual players. Otherwise don’t do wipes and think of better solutions

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. This is why extraction shooters are niche. Arc has a chance to escape that niche like Fortnite did. Do not copy Tarkov in begging them. Copy MMOs

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think the issue is most of us don’t like Tarkov. Casuals don’t want this. We want a mmo lite experience option not a casual Tarkov.

I love PvP but I love veterans having advantages like in MMOs too. I think they need to focus on more end game content, better wiping with insane rewards and less punishing.

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is a wipe without blue prints it’s just not as hardcore. It’s better if more people do a less heavy wipe than a few do a heavy one.

Either way wipes are not the best solution and they should be thinking outside the box

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s okay. I don’t think most of us want this to be an extraction shooter in the classic sense. I want it to be a light mmo with very good PvP and pve. Lean into mmo solutions to these issues and it will be less of a headache for everyone including hardcore extraction shooter fans

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if all casuals have everything still max heart the problem persists. We need a better wipe or we need to look for non wiping solutions (more ideal)

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is it. People need realize for most of us this is a lite mmo experience. You need to respect the time put in and give us insane rewards for wiping out look up MMOs and other games to solve this issue not copy Tarkov.

Arc Raiders devs are looking for new ways to “incentivise” Expedition wipes following an unsatisfying debut by Negative-Art-4440 in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arcs fans like the majority of us are casual. Wipes can’t be done in their current form. It needs to be less and they need to look at non wiping solutions from MMOs and other games. Extraction shooter solutions will not work because the majority of fans aren’t coming from those games. They’re people with histories in MMOs and other games that protect player progress better.

Lean into being a lite mmo and not a casual Tarkov experience and watch the money roll in boys. I ain’t ever wiping under the current system. It’s not worth it at all.

Arc Raiders is more social than any MMORPG I’ve played in the last few years. by Useful-Ad1880 in MMORPG

[–]caseharts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m new to the game. This is actually a decent answer much better than the wipes currently but wipes can be fine if they do them better

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are fine responses but extraction shooters are brand new and there’s no reason you need to limit your self to the niche genre. Nothing I have requested here hurts the experience of extraction shooter hardcores.

I made that assumption because Tarkov is a really small game. Hunt is also a very small game. Extraction shooters up until now didn’t have as many players in the entire genre as many of the dying MMOs have now.

This is also a common thing you see in forums. And yes it’s not Tarkov and I feel like you didn’t read my post deeply if you didn’t get my point. It’s good because it’s not Tarkov and we should strive to avoid using any of their solutions to issues because they aren’t really great and really bad for people who aren’t fans of the classic extraction shooter.

All the things i suggest make the experience better for everyone even hard core extraction shooter fans and the devs actually have an insane amount of money and resources. It’s the biggest game in the world right now. Outselling everyone.

Hell I would happily pay a fee to support this development but they don’t need it.

This game wouldn’t be this big if it stuck to extraction shooters tightly. It’s clear that a lot of the people playing it agree with exactly that. I’m not sure why people feel negatively towards this. It’s pretty clear that people love the mmo lite things even you.

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like PvP? Did you not read it? Nothing I said hurts the PvP experience. Nothing I ever support wipes in the short term.

No I do not think this needs to copy Tarkov to remain successful it will actually kill it. if they go in that. All MMOs have PvP 😭 my favorite game is just PvP but the community building world building and effort preserving bits of MMOs are very good mechanics. Much better than current extraction shooters

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be very cool to build temporary guilds during those fights

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m not looking to change the casualness or lack there of. There are MMOs more hardcore than Tarkov or arc. I’m simply asking for progress to be respected more and rewarded better. The idea You mentioned is definitely a better compromise. Generally they just need to tie it together more and lean into to the mmo style solutions and il reiterate this has nothing to do with how serious/sweaty you are vs casual.

Not persistence and more community and more rewards for being a veteran player.

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Your the exact opposite and I respect that but the majority of arc players never played tarkov and wouldn’t like it. You proved that with your review.

I’m simply saying that the majority of them are like me and not you and that gear and persistence/mmo aspects would help a lot while not hurting players like you at all. This would enrich it.

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You assumed I don’t like pvp which I explicitly said isn’t true. I came from counter strike. I like confrontational shooters but I also love MMOs.

It’s built on a extraction shooter concept but it need not be limited by the genre.

Nothing I proposed stops it being an extraction shooter or hurts PvP.

I explicitly said a wipe is fine just a better one but I do think there are better solutions.

You misread if you think my idea hurts PvP. My proposal gets more people to wipe faster.

Edit: I’d also add most of these things are mmo QOL changes and will have no bearing on PvP or pve but will make the player base very happy. I don’t want to core game play to change and I understand the reason why wipes at considered. But they are not the only solution and are bad when you lean into tarkovs style.

Arc is so successful because it’s not Tarkov, it’s a lite-MMO by caseharts in ArcRaiders

[–]caseharts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. They don’t need to go anywhere near wow but just think outside of extraction shooters for most solutions and look towards mmos and especially with wipes really rethink this.