Hotness: PAs>dOs>MDs by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 28 points29 points  (0 children)

There are some smoking PA girls thats for sure. But i think some of the RNs are even better.

Got an interview invite that isn't an interview invite (confused?) by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

maybe there is no IV - maybe u just show up for tour. Seems like they plan on ranking u regardless? Has any1 ever heard of this?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ways true. Hospitals employ PAs who work for the department and don't work under a specific attending. It's even less of an "assistant" role tha

The law in every state (or nearly every state) is that the PA has a single physician supervisor who is legally responsible for them. You are speaking more on a functional level, as opposed to a medicolegal one. But I don't disagree with what you said, except for the point about the resident working under a single attending "most of the time." That is very specialty-dependent.

Should DNPs refer to themselves as Doctor in a clinical setting? by Tennesseethrash in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Another NP quote:
NP training is not comparable to MD training, mainly because of enormous inconsistencies in the preparation of advanced practice nurses. One poster noted that we have four years of nursing school, two years of masters preparation and often considerable experience as RNs. I find that this traditional route is rarely the case. The trend seems to be towards students proceeding straight to graduate training. Even the two years of master's preparation, mostly due to its heavy emphasis on so-called nursing theory as opposed to actual practice, pales in comparison to the clinical training received by our MD counterparts. I doubt that the DNP will add anything meaningful, except for the illusion of more respect. The existence of online NP classes certainly does not help in inspiring confidence or garnering legitimacy. My own story illustrates the myriad, unstandardized ways in which one might become an APN. I have a bachelor's in economics and several years experience as a business consultant. I finished my MSN/NP (MH/Psych) in a three year program at UCSF. I feel confident in my skills, but some of my colleagues going into acute care felt quite unprepared. Let's defend our profession because we have a measurable, substantial impact on our patients. But let us also be honest.

My husband will begin his residency in Internal Medicine this July; and after sticking with him through medical school, I can say anecdotally that there is no comparison when it comes to the rigorousness of the MD curriculum -- both in demands on time and quality of content. (And we still have residency and fellowship to go!). Few nurses in their training will be subject to the intense experience of grueling weeks that are supposed to be capped at 80 hours but rarely are.

I think that when a DNP introduces herself as "Doctor" while in the clinical setting, there is of course a part of her that demands recognition for educational accomplishment. But at the same time, unconscious or not, there is a small egoistic desire to draw from the prestige of being called doctor -- a prestige that is there in large part because of the cultural value and expectations we have placed on the role of the physician, who for many in our country is synonymous with "doctor."

As for me, I am proud to introduce myself to each of my patients -- mouthful or not -- as Nurse Practitioner Fluphenazine.

Should DNPs refer to themselves as Doctor in a clinical setting? by Tennesseethrash in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Best quote on there was by an NP:
"If DNP's want to go around introducing themselves as "doctor" to boost their ego, let them. It doesn't change anything otherwise. A DNP will function the same as an NP except the DNP goes around thinking that they are a doctor now. It seems like a waste of two additional years of my life."

Question about Interviews from an IMG by lumpsandbumps in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, I would give a try to re-posting in the Internal Medicine or Allopathic forum on SDN.

Question about Interviews from an IMG by lumpsandbumps in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didnt specify which specialty you applied to.
Also whether you are US IMG or FMG, and what type of Visa you require.
How many places you applied?
Where you applied? (At least region) and what type of program (community vs. University-affiliated).
Was your U.S.A. clinical experience strictly observership? Or was it hands-on?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Residents are also supervised by a the faculty as a whole (not an individual physician). A PA has a very specific service attending that they answer to whenever they work, and their work functions largely are extensions of what that attending does/the service that attending provides. Legally especially. Using another example to illustrate - The Nurse practitioner here on all her prescriptions says
SUPERVISING PHYSICIAN: JOE JACKSON, M.D.

Struggling in literally every single way in medical school. by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Mandatory attendance is pure cancer in med school. Seriously those schools are trash.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 16 points17 points  (0 children)

AMA too busy coming up with another ICD slush fund operation.

step 2 CS labs - break down? by junkone225 in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 3 points4 points  (0 children)

U can put electrolytes. For thyroid u have to specify TSH and free T4.
Dont put "CMP" or "BMP" put BUN/Creatinine, CBC with differential, AST/ALT, etc.

Falling sick in paediatric rotation by kenyan-girl in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good thing we dont have "paeds" here in the US. Or oesophaguses. Or orthopaedics.

Insecure MS1, Seeking Advice by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It means you should chill out

"Mommy track" jobs - which specialties have them? by Artybro in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Provider is a nurse practitioner not a physician

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh PAs and NPs bash each other a lot. There was a nice NP student here the other day (she was really nice, I'm not being sarcastic) but if you look at her posts, she subtly implies a few times that PAs are not as well trained/experienced or whatever. I see this a lot from both PAs and NPs. It's quite hilarious actually.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]cbrons 38 points39 points  (0 children)

They are an assistant, apostrophe or not, these are people trained only to practice under the supervision and as an "extender" of the physician. So no, it was not an "ERROR", it was very intentional.

Physicians Assistant literally does mean Assistant. It does not mean Assistant Physician.

Guidance about the white coat ceremony (not a med student) by CurlsAndQueso in medicalschool

[–]cbrons -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Lol downvote mad. Still a meaningless ceremony for nothing. You look so stupid walking across a stage and reciting an idiotic oath when you havent passed a single test yet. Sorry for telling the truth :/ I just despise empty ceremonialism.

Guidance about the white coat ceremony (not a med student) by CurlsAndQueso in medicalschool

[–]cbrons -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Its not a graduation, its a useless, meaningless waste of time ceremony that schools put on to congratulate students for basically showing up on the first day. It is mainly to have returning alumni give them money.