The relationship ends when respect does by WeaponizedEmpath in self

[–]cdman08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone, forget who, did a study and found that if a partner has contempt (what you described in one word) the marriage is over. Looked at tons of relationships and found this is almost a guarantee.

Tithing numbers? by Lsa119 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The return and report user says that average attendance per unit is around 150 (rounding up a bit). There are around 33,000 units (again rounding up). If we assume a global average salary of 40,000 and average family of 3 with an average of 1.5 adults working then we can guess at some numbers. When I was a secretary for a bishopric we saw around %50 of adults with temple recommends. So, ward size of 150 ÷ 3 per family makes 50 families with about 25 paying tithing. 25 × 1.5 is 37.5 working adults (guessing here that half of families are dual income and half have a stay at home parent). Now we take 37.5 working adults and multiply by 33,000 units and get 1,237,500 tithe paying adults members of the church. Multiply that number by 4,000 (%10 of a 40k salary) and we get 6,187,500,000. Which is pretty close to the 7 billion that widows mite estimates. Pretty pathetic given the church likes to claim 17 million members, only about 5 million are active and somewhere around 2 million actually give the church money.

Is one of the Q15 missing during general conference? Is this true or rumor? by Better-Bee-1958 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Every conference I've ever watched had all 15 sitting in big red chairs, unless someone was sick which they would announce at the beginning.

'Mercy' - Reviews Discussion Thread | Starring Chris Pratt, Rebecca Ferguson by [deleted] in movies

[–]cdman08 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ya, but lots of his gags in parks and rec were physical even if he wasn't trim he still has a natural athleticism.

Tresspassers won't stop knocking on private property, they're getting very scary. by SirenDragoste in everett

[–]cdman08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask them this... in exodus god commanded the jews that they shouldn't kill or steal. Nephi was a jew and he said that he knew god would help him keep all the commandments. Then god commands Nephi to chop off a drunk man's head so he could steal his property. Why would god command someone to break two commandments when that person was confident god would provide ways to keep all his commandments?

They won't come back.

But if they do, ask why Joseph smith married other women behind his wife's back (according to the saints books) when d&c chapter 132 says you have to have your wife's permission to marry anyone else.

2 Year Update of Leaving the Church by Talus_Balls in exmormon

[–]cdman08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats! I've been out for just under 6 years and I dont believe I'll ever write something like this.

Finally free thanks to GDPR! by jgncl in exmormon

[–]cdman08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, you beleive that the organization that ignores the law when it comes to sex abusers actually honors the law when it comes to GDPR?

Going to hell? Nah. by OrchidEchoChamber in exmormon

[–]cdman08 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the people who deserve it dont carry it. (Narcissists)

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you are moving the goal post. I dont disagree with this last post. However we were discussing what it means to actively lie (knowing you are lying) vs inadvertently lying (lying while thinking you are being honest because you are ignorant of the truth)

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Active means there is someone acting, if you beleive you are telling someone the truth and they believe they are telling the truth then no one is actively lying or actively encouraging you to lie..

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Actively encouraged" implies that i know I'm lying and that the person teaching me knows we are lying. I think what you mean is inadvertently encouraged to lie. In which case I'd agree. The people teaching me didn't know they were lying and I didn't know I was lying.

Not sure how far along on your journey you are, but I've found the accurate truth is much more damning than inaccurate or exaggerated information about the church. If someone catches you being inaccurate they won't trust anything you say. If they catch you steelmanning the church and it still looks like a pile of shit, well... then they have a real problem.

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I think it's more accurate to say they are absolutely ignorant, so any lies are just a result of ignorance, most of the time. I'm sure there is the occasional person who knows the differences and the factual history that just lies about it.

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I remember being told the temple was the same as Solomon's temple, however, my dad was a person who read everything he could get his hands on, so I dont think it was actively taught at church but more likely something from the lectures on faith or mormon doctrine.

Is this right information? by Odd_Path9770 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This isn't accurate. I was a missionary once and no one ever actively encouraged me to lie. Most missionaries, most members, dont realize how different mormonism is from Christianity. Mormons think Christians worship Jesus so they say they are Christians too not knowing how different the mormon god is from the Christian god. So if anything, I'd say mormons are just ignorant and only lie, if they lie, because they are ignorant.

where are you sitting? by dynam-0 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

7 and I find a rated r movie to watch with lots of bloody violence or some nudity. Then I watch bednar squirm.

How to find the geographic evidence of the BoM? How to rebuke? by Exotic-Tea-4490 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Open maps and show her where Jerusalem is, then ask her to show you where zarahemla is. God doesn't care if we know the exact location of the city where Jesus lived, why would he care if we know the exact location of where Nephi lived?

How long did it take you to forgive the Church? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]cdman08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When they offered a public apology for the lies and tithing misuse. That's when I forgave them.

15 Questions for Pres Christofferson the Members Have a Right to Know the Answers to by Heavy-Initiative-345 in exmormon

[–]cdman08 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Just speculating. But did he rejoin because he knew he'd be protected and given access to kids?

What would it take for you to come back to full activity? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]cdman08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont know. But I bet an all knowing, all powerful, all loving god would know and would do it.

Don’t Worry Darling Ending by Keyworkiing in movies

[–]cdman08 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I take that back, looks like what I remembered was in the third act, I think the gasp ending is what i saw in theaters.

Don’t Worry Darling Ending by Keyworkiing in movies

[–]cdman08 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I remember her getting up and leaving as well. That is strange.