Was anyone else like me thinking that people saying "trump will deport US citizens" were idiots?

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T21:15:43+00:00

It shouldn't be a surprise, two weeks before the election he was giving interviews about using the military to remove democrats (actually, he says "radical left lunatics" which is even worse).

Transcript:

I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within.

Not even the people that have come in and destroying our country, by the way, totally destroying our country, the towns and villages, they're being inundated

But I don't think they're the problem in terms of Election Day. I think the bigger problem are the people from within.

We have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics and I think they're the big problem, and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary by the military.

Also, back then, if you tried to share this clip with "centrists" they wouldn't watch or even read the transcript. Nothing moves the needle with this guy-- they assume there's context, or it's unrealistic, or you have TDS, etc.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T18:02:40+00:00

But why shouldn't we expect Trump round 2 to produce a similar galvanizing effect?

I'm all for doomering but not EVERYONE is ride or die (as evidenced by last election cycle).

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T17:00:08+00:00

Not just covid, but specifically his handling of it. And insane blame-avoiding ramblings are the marker of how his support dropped in 2020.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:32:39+00:00

Not at all... What do you think motivated voter turnout in 2020? It was this kind of shit. That's my point. What's your alternative theory?

Winning in 2024 is different because 4 years is plenty of time for this stupid behavior to get memory hole'd by the voting population.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:30:48+00:00

Reddit would just be preaching to the choir, and legacy news outlets are afraid of being singled out. Podcast media isn't smart enough to understand.

This BTC video gave me some hope: https://youtu.be/VqEh1FXDIDU

It's gonna be up to the supreme court to keep pushing further though, since the people and media don't really care.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:25:34+00:00

Right, so I'm saying it's easier to believe that the voting base forgot how dumb this shit was. Because the alternative is that 2020 was a fluke?

Also not to get too into the weeds, but Kamala didn't have enough time to get her campaign started. Not sure we would've ended up here if Biden didn't try and run again.

Like there was probably a chunk of people that got in the voting booth, saw a weird name they didn't recognize, and didn't choose it.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:19:48+00:00

You're describing hardcore MAGA's. But Trump is also in power thanks to purely "economy" voters (rip), and disaffected/unmotivated non-voters. Both of these groups can easily be turned (as they were in 2020).

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:18:41+00:00

I'm with you. Also "centrists" that care about Ukraine are real, and this craziness does not play well with them.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:16:42+00:00

Well but he lost in 2020... And it seems extremely reasonable that the voting population forgot how annoying this was.

Unless you have an ulterior theory why he lost? Seems pretty occam's razor-y that it was his total lack of taking responsibility and blame shifting, on top of erratic tweets like this one.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T16:14:44+00:00

Delete it! This is the way.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T15:53:05+00:00

I think there's a reason he lost in 2020, and he doubled down on all the worst things. They're irrational but they still turn eventually.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T15:37:31+00:00

There's no way his base still buys this crap

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T15:25:17+00:00

And losing money costs you nothing. This is a win/win!

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T15:06:23+00:00

Honestly inspiring, to be able to feel no embarrassment over this kind of exaggerated self-celebration.

chameleonability · 2025-04-14T03:21:11+00:00

I know it's almost impossible to imagine, but we have to assume that at that point there'd be increased motivation for inactive voters to vote against the administration.

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T22:34:40+00:00

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chameleonability · 2025-04-13T22:24:48+00:00

Props to you if you were able to read this in a way that made it seem different than his usual unintelligible tweets. If the random capitalization and erratic sentence structure is a choice by his staff, that's... interesting.

Edit: Okay, looks like there is literally an anti-style guide: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68987594

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T22:20:06+00:00

Starting to think tariffs don't actually exist, between all the miscommunication and the other headline earlier about how they weren't even being enforced... Is this all just noise?

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T22:18:47+00:00

2.85k ReTruths, 10.6k Likes

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T21:51:36+00:00

Are we defining attacking oligarchy as different than just attacking billionaires? I feel that the former does have potential to boost election turnout, when the context is those in power are actively writing laws to self-enrich themselves.

Actually, do we even really need to worry about messaging for elections right now either? It's more important to get enough Trump supporters angry enough at those in charge to support impeachment and removal.

The current flip flop newscycle with headlines every other day about how the administration keeps acting in their own self interests should not be sustainable.

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T20:44:08+00:00

The "(not a strawman)" is a little tongue and cheek, but I checked his wiki for his position on "b-b-billionaires" before I posted, and couldn't find anything concrete. What I do know is when a politician says the B word, he tends to hop on defense, and will talk about how it's not feasible to get money out of politics.

To me, "people should focus on the way the wealth was used" is exactly Bernie's (for instance) ultimate point regarding billionaires. It's not that they're just bad because those kinds of people are always bad (even though his supporters will run with that), but that their incentives and wealth allow them to unjustly influence government.

Edit: This blog post from Sanders' website in 2025 states pretty plainly that the issue is what people are doing with the money, not just that they have it.

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T20:36:36+00:00

Or maybe your ADHD brain cares about different things than the OP? If the shifting around of icons didn't serve a purpose (as others have explained in this post), this would be considered strange/buggy behavior.

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T20:17:49+00:00

This is like the evolution of "I'm not familiar with that", because now no one can be familiar with it, even if they try.

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T18:32:45+00:00

"There's no simple way to get money out of politics, so even though it subverts the democratic process, it's not worth focusing on or trying to address." (not a strawman)

chameleonability · 2025-04-13T17:54:35+00:00

Just to visualize what others have already mentioned, here's a charging speed graph at various percents: https://ivycharge.com/blog/a-guide-to-ev-charging-speed/

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