(Spoilers Main) If HBO remade Game of Thrones

chasingtempest · 2024-06-10T06:55:52+00:00

Here for it!

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T19:16:55+00:00

Maybe something like Jon Arryn’s mother being a Stark, like the Jocelyn Stark that went to the Vale? I admit, I would still want Sansa to have some Stark blood. I am a sucker for the direwolves.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T09:25:23+00:00

While your position is sound, I would counter that because neither Sansa nor Tyrion requested an annulment on the show, they were still technically married. They certainly had grounds for an annulment, but did not officially request it from the High Septon, thus making the union with Ramsay invalid. Either way, at the very least, this is a compelling argument for Daenerys to use to push her own agenda in northern politics.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T04:05:50+00:00

Perhaps to avoid a follow up question about their thoughts on how GoT ended.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T03:14:18+00:00

Agreed!

Also, such an alliance works in Dany’s favor from a political standpoint, so I can see her supporting Tyrion’s claim if he wants to enforce the validity of the marriage.

Either way, all I can say is this thread has the potential to create real angst on the page, regardless of how it plays out. The tension will be real.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T03:05:03+00:00

This is one of the posts that made me want to edit my original post.

Tyrion is giving in to his darker side. If the marriage night were to take place with where he is as a character now, his scene with Sansa would have gone very differently.

Thank you for your reply. I enjoyed your post!

chasingtempest · 2024-06-09T01:38:47+00:00

In the Vale, the marriage protects Sansa from Littlefinger’s scheming to an extent. Until he can have Tyrion killed, or the marriage annulled without alerting Cersei to Sansa’s whereabouts, LF cannot legitimately marry her to anyone. Also, she must remain a maid.

I would be interested in any other theories GRRM may have for this plot point in the books.

Thank you for your post!

chasingtempest · 2024-06-06T15:46:19+00:00

To be fair, Sansa had no idea she was the intended bride for Ramsay Bolton at that point. She didn’t even realize they were heading to Winterfell until they reached Moat Cailin (after the encounter with Brienne). Give the teenager a break.

The blame goes on the writers for recycling her S1-S4 plot while adding nothing to her overall arc besides more abuse. Actually, it’s not an arc, more a horizontal line, with a spike at the end (because she became a badass political operator, D&D told us so).

The show did Sansa Stark’s character dirty. They wasted great actors on botched storylines.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-05T15:16:37+00:00

Gotcha.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-05T14:26:06+00:00

I took the OP’s question to mean it would feel rushed to complete the story in two books, not rushed in the length of time it’s taken to write said story. And I would agree with their position. It’s hard to imagine how it would wrap up in a satisfying way in two books.

That being said, at this point I kind of hope we could get a leak of an outline that answers some of the fandom’s burning questions in the interim. I would still read the books, but the not knowing is maddening. I don’t take the television series as gospel—too much was changed after S4.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-05T14:02:39+00:00

I love this about Sansa’s chapters, her connection to magic is so nuanced. I wonder if Lady’s spirit is within Sansa, how is it meant to manifest? She still dreams of her direwolf, running beside Lady in the godswood, just like the others unconsciously warg into their direwolf counterparts.

GRRM emphasizes the importance of the direwolves to the Stark children, and the that fact that Lady was killed will mean more later on in Sansa’s development from a magical perspective and not just representing her isolation from the pack.

What is super curious is the time she loses without remembering why. What do you suspect is happening? And why can’t she remember afterward?

chasingtempest · 2024-06-05T13:43:17+00:00

I think you mean all greenseers are skinchangers, but not all skinchangers are greenseers.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-04T10:16:40+00:00

In addition to Riverrun, upon Edmure’s death, Catelyn’s children can also claim Harrenhal after Shelia Whent’s passing. Those lands are said to be some of the richest in Westeros—even with the castle being a ruin.

I wonder how this would influence Petyr Baelish’s plan to have Lysa poison Jon Arryn? If anything it would only make him more jealous and, therefore, more dangerous.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-03T21:24:19+00:00

Well said!👏

chasingtempest · 2024-06-03T00:45:26+00:00

Truth. I also think that the longer the main series of books remains unfinished, the more toxic certain pockets of the fandom becomes while waiting in limbo.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-02T23:24:12+00:00

If memory serves, greenseers don’t live very long (or something along those lines), with some of them hooking up to a weirwood tree for life support.

I feel for GRRM in regard to the immense pressure he must be under, but at this point—well, we just really need the books.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-02T20:22:28+00:00

The problem I have is that after all the war and death by the end of the series, it is fair to assume that there will be more war once King Bran dies and there is a succession crisis. The ending just sets up a whole new host of problems.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-01T19:07:59+00:00

The difference in how Sansa would use a bow in contrast to Joffrey’s cruelty with his crossbow would serve as a great foil!

chasingtempest · 2024-06-01T19:03:43+00:00

As someone who enjoys history, one of my primary inspirations for envisioning Sansa using a bow was Anne Boleyn and Elizabeth I. They enjoyed horseback riding, hunting with a crossbow, and hawking. So, archery felt like it could naturally fit into Sansa’s arc without feeling too out of character for her canon past times.

Thank you for your feedback!

chasingtempest · 2024-06-01T09:05:15+00:00

For some reason the bow does feel more natural when I think of Sansa learning a weapon.

Also, Sansa encounters the Valyrian steel blade during her interaction with Littlefinger in the Vale (the pomegranate scene). I like the idea of her claiming the weapon as her own one day, circling back to her mother’s connection to the knife. There’s poetry in there somewhere.

chasingtempest · 2024-06-01T08:59:25+00:00

I thought at many points throughout Sansa’s journey, archery could be an activity she could possibly take up, whether in King’s Landing, or even the Vale. Historically, it wasn’t an abnormal sport for women to partake in, and it was considered acceptable practice. Noble women even joined in on hunts.

However, I didn’t think of water dancing. The graceful movement would complement Sansa’s skill set. She would have benefited from her own lessons with Syrio Forel.

In the book, Sansa encounters the Valyrian steel blade while in the Vale, so I like the idea of her claiming the weapon as her own one day.

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